If Hillary were going to the Vatican

[TheFarseer]

Would the media be telling us all she's crazy and desperate and running a bizarre campaign - or would this prove that she's an inspiring leader, not afraid to take chances, a uniter whose foreign policy experience is shining through? I don't think Bernie should take time off the campaign trail either, I'm just questioning how biased is our media?

[Buzz Clik]

1. Is Hillary going to the Vatican?

jeebus.

[TheFarseer]

5. Do you miss every point or just this one?

[Buzz Clik]

6. Your point is way, way off: HRC is not going to the Vatican or anywhere else...

... because it would be insane to do so.

[TheFarseer]

11. That's a fair point

No doubt this is a huge gamble and I wouldn't have done it, but I was wondering out loud if her water-carriers in the media would be spinning at as the best thing ever or stratching their heads like I am. I'm certain msnbc wouldn't be saying she lied about getting invited.

[Vinca]

2. It's a moot point.

Unless they pay a hefty speaking fee she isn't interested.

[brush]

3. An overseas trip to an obscure conference 4 days before the most important primary . . .

to date would not have been considered.

[JoePhilly]

4. + 1

[frylock]

14. Not when you can fly to Cali for a couple high-dollar events.

[brush]

15. So Sanders forsakes days of campaigning in the most important primary . . .

for at best a photo op with obscure Catholic academics while Clinton attends an SF fundraiser and gets back to NY after sharing the funds with down-ticket dems, something she recognizes is needed.

She's back to NY in a few hours to continue campaigning while Sanders is still out of the country and still not contributing all the millions he's raised to down-ticket dems.

[frylock]

16. And this is a concern to you, because..?

If your candidate did something that I felt would be of benefit to my candidate, I'd just sit back and watch the pieces fall into place. Instead, we have three solid days of posts from Hillary Supporter decrying Sanders' decision as detrimental to his campaign. What's up with that?

[brush]

19. It should be solid days of Sanders supporters urging him to scrap the trip and hit the streets of NY

since it's the most important primary to date and could bring him nearly even with Clinton in delegates.

They should also tell him to help down-ticket dems as he's going to need them in Congress to get his proposals through.

Why is that not a concern of his out of all the millions he's raised — it's bragged enough on this site as being even more than what Clinton has raised.

[frylock]

23. Yeah, I'll take that under advisement.

Again, thank you so much for your very sincere concern.

[DrDan]

21. to help the down-ticket candidates . . . the ones the other candidate seems to ignore

[frylock]

22. Yeah.. no.

How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties

<snip>

The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.

In other words, a single donor, by giving $10,000 a year to each signatory state could legally give an extra $330,000 a year for two years to the Hillary Victory Fund. For each donor, this raised their individual legal cap on the Presidential campaign to $660,000 if given in both 2015 and 2016. And to one million, three hundred and 20 thousand dollars if an equal amount were also donated in their spouse’s name.

From these large amounts of money being transferred from state coffers to the Hillary Victory Fund in Washington, the Clinton campaign got the first $2,700, the DNC was to get the next $33,400, and the remainder was to be split among the 33 signatory states. With this scheme, the Hillary Victory Fund raised over $26 million for the Clinton Campaign by the end of 2015.

The money was either transferred to the Hillary for America or Forward Hillary PACs and spent directly on the Hillary Clinton Campaign, often paying the salaries and expenses within those groups, or it was moved into the DNC or another Clinton PAC. Some of it was spent towards managing the Hillary merchandise store, where you can buy Hillary T shirts and hats and buttons.

<more>

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

[DanTex]

7. If she lied about being invited by the pope, the media would be all over it.

[Sky Masterson]

8. If Hillary went to the Vatican

Jesus would come back and chase her out of it(Money changers).

[djean111]

9. Oh, FFS, Hillary is going to spend most of that time fund-raising.

Three fund-raisers in Florida. Dinner with the Clooneys on April 15. In California. oooh! Is Hillary giving up on new York? Running out of money? Is that how the misinformation and deflection game is played?

The Hillary campaign sees Bernie's Vatican trip as a huge help with Catholic voters. That is ALL they see it as. Free publicity. They don't care about the conference at all, and they would be thrilled if Bernie merely took some time off, and if Bernie had to fund-raise out of state, they would maunder on about how Bernie was ceding New York, or running out of money, or some other stupid shit.

The current "concern" and dissing is just the Hillary campaign trying to minimize the impact of the trip. And it looks like having a good selection of posters on my Full Ignore list has spared me from reading a lot of utter bullshit and tripe about Bernie's trip.

[tabasco]

10. Well, you know her rabid supporters here on DU would call it a "mission from God"

to attend the conference and proof positive that Clinton is the messiah.

[grossproffit]

13. Funny, that's what Bernie supporters are saying.

[grossproffit]

12. If it were Hillary who were invited we'd hear about how crooked the Vatican is.

[tabasco]

20. Big IF.

LOL.

[JackRiddler]

17. To be fair, the media has not particular cared about this.

It's the HRC supporters here going mad about it, and at the moment no one else cares. We'll see how it goes over the weekend.

[brooklynite]

18. It would depend...

First the fact that she's AHEAD in the polls would mitigate the impact of the trip. Second, since she's reported an unprincipled, opportunistic politician, I would assume that she'd thought long and hard about the benefits and risks.