De Blasio admits that two white folks joshing' about lazy ass colored people was scripted.

[Luminous Animal]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/york-mayor-de-blasio-faces-criticism-joking-cp/story?id=38320320

“Sorry, Hillary. I was running on CP time." The remark is an apparent reference to colored people time -- a phrase sometimes used as a stereotypical reference to black people supposedly being late to everything.

….

"It was clearly a staged show. It was a scripted show. The whole idea was to do the counter-intuitive by saying cautious politician time. Every actor thought it was a joke on a different convention. That was the whole idea," he said. "I think people are missing the point here."

So, what is the point De Blasio? You used a negative WHITE SUPREMECIST stereotype about black folks to make a point?

[elleng]

1. Scripted. SWELL!

[Aerows]

9. Who on God's green earth

is advising these people!?

[elleng]

11. I can't imagine!

Moreover I'm disappointed with De Blasio; had hoped for a strong progressive. I'll stick with Senator Sanders, and for the future, progressives like Donna Edwards: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10561172

[Aerows]

13. It looks like plain old

self-sabotage to the nth degree.

It's rather astonishing.

Note: had a dupe of this post for some reason and deleted it.

[Zira]

66. HRC has been doing self sabotage weekly for the last 3 weeks.

Good point. I expect her next melt down, fly off the handle, or insane accusation to come before Saturday. Her husband has proved he can help.

[CorporatistNation]

20. Scripting THIS Kind Of "Joke" Makes It All The WORSE!

UNBELIEVABLE...

[elleng]

40. Yes

[brush]

29. CP time is an inside joke used among AA to kid about being on time

It is not a slur or an insult the way we use it and and it is not referencing any "lazy ass colored people" like this OP is trying to imply.

Where was all this faux outrage by whites when the clearly racist "Stockholm Syndrome" post and others were being K&R'ed hundreds of times?

If you want to know how AAs feel about this, try the AA forum before going off on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118748680

[islandmkl]

30. de Blasio and Hillary are AA?

this site is so full of new information every day...

[brush]

32. Try the link to see how AAs feel about this faux outrage

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118748680

We have other things to worry about than Sanders supporters using a non-issue to pander to AAs for votes.

[CentralCoaster]

85. Well that's just a link to a group on an anonymous discussion board.

I know you mean well but one particular group of posters from this discussion board can't be said to necessarily be representative of that entire demographic.

[brush]

86. I'd say way more representative than the pout-ragers here.

[XemaSab]

67. .

[brush]

81. Meaning what? Be clear please.

[anigbrowl]

75. Bernie supporters sure love straw man arguments

It's not an attractive personality trait.

[nc4bo]

34. I don't go by DU's AA forum for information exclusively

Nor should anyone.

They have extremely good info on black people's issues (issues that rarely get the coverage they deserve in the white folks' world) so don't get me wrong, don't you dare go there ~but~ it's also operates in the same bubble as the DU in general.

You have partisan slants and varying agendas just like anywhere else on the interwebs. As we've all heard time and time again, black people are NOT a monolith and that is true.

Get out, look around and one will find many varying opinions from black folks about black folks' issues. This is another example of we all don't all have group think.

There's a big world out there outside of the DU.

[brush]

36. Just a suggestion to get a more comprehensive take on this "faux outrage".

[elleng]

41. Been there, Done that.

[brush]

42. And?

[elleng]

44. What de Blasio and hrc did was rude and uncalled for,

in my white upper middle class opinion.

My former husband's friend wrote these poems, and my husband created the cover picture. I do know a bit about things.

BLUES FOR AN AFRICAN PRINCESS

Sad eyed Ghanaian girl
how you know so much
so soon?
Dealing with the world
with gentle persistence
Teaching me while you
act like you learnin.
Looking at me out of
ancient African eyes
deep enough
to drown in
Lookin at me like
I'm ten feet tall
and me stretchin to be it
an almost makin it
an everybody surprised
but you

COMPENSATION

How many mans?
Hey, man,
Cool, man,
Mellow, man,
Yeah, man!
To compensate
for the Man's
no, boy . . .

by Sam Greenlee



Cover by Marvin M. Young


http://www.amazon.com/Blues-African-Princess-Sam-Greenlee/dp/0883780194

[brush]

46. Here's another perspective on CP time.

Last edited Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:34 PM - Edit history (1)

CP time is an inside joke among AAs to kid about being on time

It is not a slur or an insult like the pout-raged Sanders supporters here on DU are making it out to be in an attempt to pander for black votes.

We'll decide if something is racist to us. We don't need the whitesplaining.

[elleng]

47. Yes, you just decide on your own.

In my opinion, what they did is rude, 'inside joke' or not.

[EffieBlack]

63. Thank you

You put it all in a nutshell.

Methinks the only people "outraged" by this are Sanders supporters who have had limited exposure to or experience with blacks. Anyone who has spent any quality time around black folk know this is a common expression that originated among us and is, therefore, by definition, not a "slur." And certainly, a white man married to a black woman with black children has heard and used the term frequently.

And given Hillary Clinton's long association with blacks, she is ver familiar with the phrase - interestingly, it has frequently been used to describe her own husband's propensity for being late.

Much ado about nothing stirred up by people grasping for a poltical cudgel - strange that it's many of the same people who dismiss our concerns abour racial insensitivity by their fellow supporters with demands that we "stop being so sensitive ... divisive ... whiny," etc.

[Luminous Animal]

84. Yes. I know the difference between when black people say it and when white people say it.

Many white people of my age know the racist implication when a white person says colored people time. It ain't a compliment or an acknowledgement.

How white employers, managers, etc., say it to other white people, "Where's, your assistant, your contractor, your driver, your production crew, your caterer, your model, your set designer,etc.?" "Oh, you know, he/she's on colored people's time." The they exchange roll eyes.

[Bobbie Jo]

45. The OP took some great liberties with that title, no?

was that about??

[brush]

48. Sanders supporters pandering for black votes now that black votes matter in New York

But we remember their many comments about black votes not mattering in the "confederate states", as they put it, of the early primaries that Clinton won.

[2banon]

54. Stockholm Syndrome

This story is informative of the actual origins of the term Stockholm Syndrome

Most people associate Stockholm Syndrome, a situation in which people being held captive feel sympathy toward their captors, with Patty Hearst and her ordeal with the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974. But the term Stockholm Syndrome was actually coined a year before in—you guessed it—Sweden.

Hint: Racism is in no way remotely factored in this story.

[brush]

55. Racism was factor in the "Stockholm Syndrome" posts here on DU though.

[2banon]

57. I see. I missed that.

I wonder why it would have been used here.

Weird. Oh well.. thanks for clearing that up for me.

[brush]

58. It was a huge sh_tstorm with the poster repeatedly goading AAs with racist snark. He was eventually

banned.

[2banon]

65. omg. I'm really glad I missed that. thanks!

[JI7]

68. he compared black people supporting Clinton to battered wives and many agreed with it

[2banon]

70. Sad..

again I'm really glad I missed it, but there's no shortage of thoughtless snark as if there were not enough serious matters of issues and concerns requiring examination and discussion.

[JI7]

71. The person was posting that type of shit before the primary

He started using the Sanders campaign as cover to continue it and post even worse things .

[arcane1]

77. I've heard many southern white people reference "CPT" as a joke too.

And it was most definitely referencing "lazy ass colored people" when they said it.

[brush]

82. Really? How often have you run into this?

[arcane1]

83. A half-dozen or so times, in the years that I lived there.

I saw a black comedian reference it once as well, but I don't recall the context of the joke.

I moved away almost 20 years ago, so who knows what they're saying now.

[Joob]

2. What part of Hillary isn't scripted, was there ever a question about this? NT

[revbones]

3. So both of them and their staffs read and approved the script then. Even worse. nt

[Aerows]

10. Their staff

has to hate them to let them go out and do this.

[Fumesucker]

14. "Not especially competent demon spawn of Hell.."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026304514

[PATRICK]

19. Their staff

evidently posts on this site. Similar sense of humor.

[BernieforPres2016]

25. No, it's an illustration of how insulated and tone deaf they are

They think they're so clever that everybody was going to be rolling in the aisles as two white pandering corporatist politicians courting the black vote joking about "CP time" in front of a mostly black audience.

[morningfog]

23. Makes you wonder what racist tripe doesn't make the cut.

[dchill]

4. Oh yeah, scripted smells so much better.

[Nyan]

5. It came off all wrong partly because they were both so stiff and awkward.

The chemistry was all off. It's obvious that they didn't wanna be in the same room.

[Califonz]

6. So if you want to make racist jokes...

Make sure your spouse is a member of the race you're joking about. Check.

[Fumesucker]

7. My very best friend of all is black...

[Aerows]

8. Yep

That was the height of stupidity for a campaign that is turning into a train wreck of epic proportions.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. What kind of IDIOT would think that was a good idea?

I see what they were getting at, sort of, but a white person would have to have spot-on comedic timing and instincts to EVER make that work, and even then it might fail.

It kind of goes without saying that Clinton and De Blasio are not professional comedians.

[jfern]

17. The same kind of idiot who would think that invading Iraq was a good idea

[Warren DeMontague]

18. ...

[Lizzie Poppet]

35. Oh, but her resume! Her qualifications!

I have, at this point, zero respect for any non-1%'er who supports Princess Weathervane.

[jfern]

80. James Buchanan had a more impressive resume anyways

[Cheese Sandwich]

16. Hillary Clinton shouldn't have taken part.

Her judgement has to be in question. It's not the first time she has made racially insensitive remarks.

Combined with Bill Clinton's recent meltdown against Black Lives protest, the whole thing is just looks bad for them.

[geek tragedy]

21. Still a non-issue, Bernie people. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Here's the issue:

"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

Your cohort also declared that to be a 'non issue' and you yourself have bullied me to not post about that trash she spouted. You are of course a Straight White person who does not really have any standing to make such demands on anyone in my community. You feel you have impunity to order and to command 'Not an issue' and 'Does not matter'. Who told you that is your right? The God of DOMA?

[geek tragedy]

28. Sorry your candidate is losing.

I understand the anger.

[Lizzie Poppet]

33. No, you obviously understand nothing.

But, reciprocally, I don't understand how someone can support a corrupt, lying, corporate shill of a candidate and still look at themselves in the mirror in the morning. So there's that.

[JonLeibowitz]

76. Oh I am beginning to understand it quite a bit more now.

You could read this very interesting DU thread. It was eye-opening for me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1693142

[LondonReign2]

31. It never is, it never is

No matter how many time Hillary proves her bad judgment, it is never an issue amongst her followers.

[Arugula Latte]

53. Oh, well, I guess because you say so.

We should all stop talking about how Hillary has terrible, terrible judgment, 'cuz, ya know, good judgment is not really needed when you're president.

[Capt. Obvious]

62. He's made it a point to say so on every thread about the topic

I'm shocked his post here isn't in his usual style.

[Scuba]

24. Yet her supporters bristle when we say she's "tone deaf."

[BernieforPres2016]

27. What don't her supporters bristle at?

They won't even admit that taking $225,000 per corporate speech is questionable.

[oberliner]

26. Did you watch the whole skit?

It was a parody of Hamilton, featuring one of the actors from that musical.

If you think that joke was offensive, I wonder what you think of the part where the Aaron Burr character tells Bill de Blasio that he needs to tout himself using hip-hop and he proceeds to rap about his accomplishment and then introduces Hillary, in rap, as his homegirl.

[rachacha]

37. Video here

&feature=youtu.be&t=428

[oberliner]

39. Hard to sit through the whole thing

A series of not funny attempts at jokes by a not funny mayor with a not funny cameo by Hillary.

Bill de Blasio's rapping seems like the most cringeworthy part to me.

[frylock]

78. How does CP relate to Aaron Burr?

Why even bring it up at all? The entire skit was unfunny and painful to watch.

[apcalc]

38. To me

The point is that , in the skit, Hillary did not know term. So she made something up that fit her understanding " cautious politician". I do not see race anywhere in HER comment.

De Blasio ...yes. Hillary ...no.

Stupid unfunny joke anyway.

[Goblinmonger]

50. You know that was scripted, right?

Please tell me you don't think what she said was unscripted.

[DefenseLawyer]

43. You people just don't understand humor!

Wait, I didn't mean "you people"! I mean... well nevermind.

[jham123]

74. I see what you did there

lol....

[Cali_Democrat]

49. Bernie supporters are really getting desperate....

tick tock....tick tock....tick tock.....

[MisterP]

51. so it's deliberate stupidity that several people signed off on, rather than spontaneous stupidity

that exposes its participants' brainlessness?

oh, good, I was worried there for a bit

[Arugula Latte]

52. Hillary has TERRIBLE judgment.

Here is another clear example.

The Iraq War vote was one of many bad, bad decisions she has made.

[Orsino]

59. Admits? Calling it scripted here is just blaming it on a scriptwriter.

Now that I see the context, Clinton's line may have been lame, but was at least a disavowal (unless it was also scripted). I would have preferred her to have objected herself, as Odom did.

[Luminous Animal]

61. Clearly you missed the fact that Hillary's line was also scripted. So, was Odom's.

"It was clearly a staged show. It was a scripted show. The whole idea was to do the counter-intuitive by saying cautious politician time.

"Cautious politician time" was Hillary's scripted line.

[Orsino]

64. I allowed for that possibility.

She should have known not to go along with it.

[Jitter65]

60. Ans the nasty words used in your OP title are your own...not the Mayors. nt

[Loki]

69. Mayor DeBlasio is married to an African American woman.

and has racially mixed children. I seriously doubt he would make any kind of derogatory comment about race to anyone. Another smear attempt to read a very negative, ugly meaning into anything anyone says or does that is involved with Hillary Clinton. Guess their candidate can't stand on his own merits without demeaning others. Not much to be proud of.

[BlindTiresias]

73. Other famous not-racists

Jefferson, that guy who has a black friend.

[kwassa]

72. Your OP title is wrong and offensive, because ....

CPT is about lateness, not laziness. You mischaracterize what the joke was about.

[noiretextatique]

79. I concede it was a joke, albeit an awkward, unfunny, stupid one

However, can you imagine the never-ending OUTRAGE if Sanders had done that skit? Or if he made the same remarks that Bill did? That's my big problem with that dumb joke. The same people who are defending this, and Bill, would have posted a zillion outraged posts if it was Sanders. Total and complete hypocrisy.