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factfinder_77

(841 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:26 AM Apr 2016

Sanders Campaingn collapsing in NY: - 16, -18, - 12, -14

A 56 to 44 ( +12) win to Hillary would give her 138 delegates, 109 to Sanders,
cancelling Sandes delegates gain in Alaska, Washington and Hawaii combined.

Hillary would then have 1925 delegates.

A 58 to 42 (+14) win to Hillary would give her 143 delegates, 104 to Sanders
cancelling Sanders delegate gain in Alaska, Washington, Hawaii, Michigan and Nebraska

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democratic_presidential_primary-4221.html


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Sanders Campaingn collapsing in NY: - 16, -18, - 12, -14 (Original Post) factfinder_77 Apr 2016 OP
He is closer today, than he was in Michigan at this time...... ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
And then we have the Thursday night debate in Brooklyn. factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #5
Except he didn't beedle Apr 2016 #10
What did he have trouble answering? NWCorona Apr 2016 #12
Oh, noes! Xipe Totec Apr 2016 #2
Oh goody! Somebody got a new Magic 8 Ball! jillan Apr 2016 #3
Nice! NWCorona Apr 2016 #13
Good one! CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #23
Go Hillary! TMontoya Apr 2016 #4
Oh, the irony! "factfinder" indeed. Thanks for the laugh! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #6
Democratic Delegate Calculator http://demrace.com/ factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #7
Hillary has closed the gap with white men factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #8
Not me. seekthetruth Apr 2016 #11
factfinder, I encourage a discussion of ideas JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #9
The diversity of the electorate factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #14
wouldn't diversity imply AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #16
My point beeing, Sanders caucus wins does not represent the american demographics factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #22
Can't say I agree AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #24
Sanders strategy has always been about the caucus states factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #29
That is not my understanding of his strategy AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #30
And? Name an elected official that DOES represent the American Demographics. progressoid Apr 2016 #28
it's called a dog whistle AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #31
That isn't an actual policy position you have espoused. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #26
Clinton still has a week to destroy herself AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #15
Seriously - star wars lingo to defend Sanders factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #17
sorry I'm on a "how bad were the last 4 Star Wars movies" kick right now AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #20
That seems like an odd takeaway from that. Chan790 Apr 2016 #27
Sanders Campaign collapsing in NY: - 16, -18, - 12, -14 workinclasszero Apr 2016 #18
Workingclasszero has gone negative HERVEPA Apr 2016 #21
nobody with common sense thought he was going to win NY JI7 Apr 2016 #19
And the Sanders campaign were late with the ground game in NY factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #25
Sounds as if the Sanders campaign is doing well and surging k8conant Apr 2016 #33
Math? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #32
 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
5. And then we have the Thursday night debate in Brooklyn.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

"I have noticed that under the bright spotlight and scrutiny in New York, Sen. Sanders has had trouble answering questions. He's had trouble answering questions about his core issue, namely dealing with the banks," Clinton said, referring to Sanders' Daily News editorial board interview. "He's had trouble answering foreign policy questions. And so I look forward to a debate that is in New York with people asking the kind of questions that New Yorkers ask."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-anxiety-221802

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
10. Except he didn't
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

Have trouble. The editors had trouble asking questions that made sense. A live debate is harder to play that game¡

jillan

(39,451 posts)
3. Oh goody! Somebody got a new Magic 8 Ball!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:32 AM
Apr 2016

Is Hillary going to win NY? Shake shake shake...

ooops - look at what it said...

 

TMontoya

(369 posts)
4. Go Hillary!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:34 AM
Apr 2016

She will likely win by 14 points. Then its effectively over for Sanders. And then on the 26th Hillary will likely win the majority if not all states on the 26th. After there will be calls to drop out and his support will dry up.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. Oh, the irony! "factfinder" indeed. Thanks for the laugh!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

To find facts, you actually have to use real data. Making up nonsense is not fact finding, it is bullshit flinging. Maybe you need to consider a name change? Truth in advertising is always the best policy.

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
8. Hillary has closed the gap with white men
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:41 AM
Apr 2016

that used to vote Sanders.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/nbc-poll-trump-clinton-hold-sizable-leads-new-york-n554311

Clinton leads Sanders among African Americans (68 percent to 28 percent), those ages 45 and older (66 percent to 30 percent) and women (58 percent to 38 percent).

Sanders, meanwhile, holds the advantage among those younger than 45 (62 percent to 37 percent) and those who describe themselves as "very liberal" (59 percent to 40 percent). The two are running roughly even among men and Latinos.

Geographically, Clinton is ahead of Sanders in New York City (58 percent to 39 percent) and in the suburbs (61 percent to 36 percent), but Sanders holds a one-point lead in Upstate New York (49 percent to 48 percent

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
16. wouldn't diversity imply
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

that some would accept it, and some would not? I mean, everyone reacting the same way is the exact opposite of the word "diverse", is it not?

careful not to blow that dog whistle too hard lest ye swallow it

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
29. Sanders strategy has always been about the caucus states
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

Today, Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, Nevada, North Dakota, Wyoming and Iowa are the only states to rely solely on the caucus.

Making unemployed students a prime voter target.



 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
30. That is not my understanding of his strategy
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

seems to me his strategy is to win the traditionally Democratic states

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
20. sorry I'm on a "how bad were the last 4 Star Wars movies" kick right now
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:57 AM
Apr 2016

when you take them apart they really are truly horrible, so much so that it's fascinating drilling down into the details of just how bad they were

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZJ2yOBfQ1hr3wacUOgHhY_ZFZ2ujxAEo

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
27. That seems like an odd takeaway from that.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:15 AM
Apr 2016

Yes, ze used SW lingo.

The larger point was that lately between shooting herself in the foot and Pyrrhic victories, Clinton has mastered her Deathstar impersonation.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
32. Math?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:04 AM
Apr 2016

You do know Sander will get around 70 from Washington alone right? That is more than this spread you are mentioning. (about a 43 from delegate gain from Washington alone)

So 138-109=29 and 29<43 so what is it you say? Oh yeah...

Feel the math #MathBern!

Hey if Bernie gets elected you can got take some free math classes if that makes you feel better.

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