I'm married to a woman with blond hair, does that mean I can make 'dumb blond' jokes?

[Joe the Revelator]

Of course not, it would still be sexist as hell.



Isn't that basically the only argument the Clinton die hards have right now? De Blasio is married to an African American so he 'gets a pass' on making a blatantly racist joke.


Oh yeah, just to take this all the way, my kid has blond hair as well. Guess what, still come off as a sexist assbag if I make anti-woman jokes or 'dumb blond' jokes. My marriage doesn't grant me a right to be a mysoginist any more than De Blasio's grants him immunity from racism.

[oldandhappy]

1. I am sure the mayor got an earful at home!!

[JI7]

2. among many minorities being late is not seen as a bad thing

it's just part of the culture and regularly joked about .

being called a dumb is not equal to that. but we do regularly get dumb blonde jokes about fox news hosts.

[Joe the Revelator]

3. So as a white guy, I can refer to 'colored people'?

Other white politicians can refer to blacks as 'colored people'? In 2016?

[JI7]

5. depends on the context .

[Joe the Revelator]

7. I'd like to know the context in which I could refer to a black person as 'colored'

Because as far as I know, there is none? Would it help if I was a Clinton?

[JI7]

9. you mean directly to them ? because that's not what De Blasio did

he was referring to a cultural thing in the community. you know there is a difference between saying "it's a black thing" and "hey black guy"

[Joe the Revelator]

11. Ok. When can I refer to black people as a group as 'colored'?

Even if its to other white people (I think that makes it worse), I see no time that would be appropriate.

[JI7]

13. i use it all the time . i don't call people personally "colored person" but i don't refer to white

people as white person also.

de blasio didn't call any black person "colored" .

[Joe the Revelator]

15. So when De Blasio alluded to "CP", and the scripted joke has a black man becoming offended...

....he wasn't REALLY alluding to 'Colored' people. Got it. Keep up the good work.

[JI7]

17. i think a lot of white people are more outraged that minorities aren't upset over it

[Joe the Revelator]

19. That doesn't answer the question at all....

If PEOPLE as a whole are upset at DU, its because of selective outrage. I would call out ANY white politician who referred to blacks as 'colored'. ANY. POLITICIAN. Also any white non-politician. It is not a term that I think is acceptable at all.

[TeeYiYi]

26. You refer to black people as a group as "colored"? You "use it all the time"?...

I've obviously fallen through a worm hole of some sort.

TYY

[JI7]

33. i use the term "people of color" when discussing things

[TeeYiYi]

35. That's not what you said.

You've been defending "colored people time," not "people of color time."

TYY

[Zira]

38. Thanks for the clip, good memories.

[nc4bo]

14. Ahhhhh the Good Ole Days. The ones Republicans love so much.

Referring to POC as colored takes me waaaah back....colored vs white water fountains, colored only seats at the theater were in the nosebleed section, coloreds sat in the back of the bus.



Yes....the good ole days

[beedle]

12. The "context"

Is the context of presidential politics!

You think the context was Hillary just laying back, hanging with her klan?

[arcane1]

4. Reminds me of something...

Sorry, I had to do it

[pacalo]

6. I'm a blonde, but not an uptight one.

I care more about equal pay (I want the whole damn dollar) & the regressive ideas the Republicans dream up for invading our bodies & rights.

[Kalidurga]

8. Maybe if your grandfather was a blond...

Then you could say you have blond roots.

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. They want us to attack the mayor because then they can defend the mayor.

Hillary is up for election. It's her judgement that is in question and up for a vote.

[JI7]

18. so you admit it's just about the election ? since it was the mayor who actually used it

[Joe the Revelator]

20. You do realize that it was scripted, right? And that Hillary was in on the script,right? And....

she delivered the setup and the punchline....right???

[JI7]

21. and the mayor also

[Joe the Revelator]

23. Right? They are both culpable.

[Cheese Sandwich]

24. No it was a skit with a script.

Hillary was OK with it.

[JI7]

29. so was the black guy who was in on it

[Joob]

16. #BlondesforBernie

Yeah!!

[Nye Bevan]

22. OK. Bill de Blasio is the second coming of David Duke.

Is that what you want us to say?

[Joe the Revelator]

25. No but it would be nice to be as outraged about this as you would be if it was any other white....

....politician. If Donald Trump participated in a joke like this, would you not be angry? Bernie Sanders? John McCain? George Bush?

Partisan outrage when it comes to stuff like this is the absolute worst.

[TM99]

34. Give it up.

Most of the Clinton supporters in this thread are hypocrites about this. If you tell them that too vehemently you will just get a hide. They would of course be frothing at the mouth if Sanders had done this. We all know it. They know it. But the difference is they really just don't give a shit.

[pdsimdars]

45. Amen, you hit the nail on the head.

H Y P O C R I S Y !!!

[Hoyt]

27. You just did.

[KingFlorez]

28. It's really about the type of joke and the context

It was not a racist joke. People like you have never heard CPT until now and you are already to call the joke racist because of Hillary Clinton. This is a joke that I've used before and I've heard other black people use it. I'd imagine that he got it from his wife, because it's one of the most insular jokes that there is. FYI, I don't think dumb blonde jokes are really gender specific, but whatever you want to believe, that is your view.

The point of the skit is one of the oldest and most common jokes there are; One person says something that might sound inappropriate to another, but the person really means something innocuous. The outrage isn't about the joke, it's about the source. Bernie Sanders and Susan Sarandon could have done the same skit without anyone being outraged. Real talk.

[Joe the Revelator]

30. Please, how do you have ANY earthly idea what I've heard about and what I haven't heard about before

??

Seriously, you no absolutely zero about me. Here's a tidbit though, I've been around enough to know that calling a black person 'colored' in any context, as a white person, is not acceptable. Unless of course, my name happens to be Clinton.

[KingFlorez]

32. Ok

I'm just taking a wild guess that you and several of your fellow Sanders supporters have not heard a CPT joke before, otherwise the response would have been a whole lot different. It's not offensive in the least bit.

[Joe the Revelator]

40. I don't know where you come from, but where I am from, a white guy referring to CP time...

.....is a quick way to get in an argument.

[VulgarPoet]

42. Me and my cousin use it among each other

because he's black, and I'm half. But the second a white guy uses it, I don't give a fuck if he's been married to a black woman for thirty years with kids and grandkids-- I do not consider it okay for a white dude to use that term. I don't give a fuck who it is, hell, if Bernie did that shit tomorrow, I'd drop my donations to him in a New York minute.

[JI7]

31. since De Blasio is known to be late a lot of times

i can see it as something his wife always teases him with.

[Armstead]

43. I'm sure if Bernie was late to a rally and joked "Sorry I'm late. I was on colored people's time"..

that nothing would be said and it wold just be dismissed as a meaningless joke.

Suuuuuuuuurrrrrreeee.

[Joe the Revelator]

44. Perfect

[oberliner]

36. Do you understand that the skit was a Hamilton parody?

I just wonder how many people get the context or have watched a video of the whole skit (or know who the actor onstage with them is).

[nilram]

37. I read the transcript and I know who the actor is, and it just

doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. Almost innocuous even if Mr Odom wasn't involved.

Disclaimer: on the one hand, I'm really white, so that could explain my cluelessness. On the other hand, I'm totally pro-Bernie, so I should be foaming at the mouth about Hillary's cluelessness. I'm going with Mr Odom and my gut, which is saying the media needs to fill air time.

[Fumesucker]

39. The whole "colored people" "people of color" thing is a minefield for white folks, better avoided

[Joe the Revelator]

41. Exactly.