Bernie gets testy when pressed on his vote to give gun manufacturers blanket immunity from lawsuits

[fried eggs]

My observations: His body language is all wrong. He wouldn't even look at Sunny as she was speaking to him. The infamous finger wag didn't help either. Why can't he admit that his vote to give blanket immunity to gun manufacturers was a mistake?

[RandySF]

1. He doesn't like being challenged.

But doesn't mind insulting others.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Then you two should get along just fine.

[Armstead]

2. What's your problem?

He said it had some good things and some bad things, and he said he supports altering it.

You wanna makes guns illegal? Go ahead and try. But in the meantime...They are legal products.

[fried eggs]

4. Why do they get blanket immunity? No other industry gets that.

Bernie is a hypocrite.

[Armstead]

6. Not blanket immunuity

Just treat themn like any otehr legal product.

You wanna make them illegal. Hey go for it. But until then if a dealer or manufacturer follows all legal requirements and uses common sense they should not be subjected to suits based on hoe someone uses it.

[fried eggs]

9. Are you an NRA member?

I'm baffled as to why anyone on DU would be defending this. Are you a gun owner?

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. One need not be an NRA member to point out the idiocy of your phrase "blanket immunity".

Here's what I'm sure is some shocking news for ya, egg yolk: The next time a gun blows up in someone's face due to faulty design or crappy workmanship, the manufacturer will get sued, and lose. Rightfully so.

Looks like you're sleepin' in the cold tonight, yolk... your blanket only covers half the bed. And what fuckin' good is a blanket like that?

And before you ask: NO I'm not a fucking NRA member.

[Armstead]

12. It's not any of your business

[fried eggs]

18. When you're on DU shilling for the gun manufacturers

admitting you're a card carrying NRA member would provide some much needed context.

[Armstead]

20. It's none of your fucking business Aardvark, but...

No I am not a member or even tacit supporter of the NRA. I hate them. . I have never owned a gun. I believe in gun control.

Fucking happy now?

[TM99]

10. No other industry

had as many frivolous lawsuits filed against it for something it was not responsible for either.

Logic, it is your friend.

[jmg257]

14. There are exemptions to this "blanket immunity" for negligent entrustment,

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knowingly transferring a gun which will be used in crime of violence, defects in design etc.

The Sandy Hook lawsuit waiting decision in CT is based on negligent entrustment.

[TeddyR]

17. Do you legitimately think

That the PLCAA provides "blanket immunity"? If so you should re-read that law, because it doesn't. Facts are our friend.

[revbones]

3. Wow. "His body language is all wrong". Are you a body language expert?

How's Hillary's body language here in this video? She seems testy, but I'm not the expert:

[fried eggs]

5. Just look at his demeanor. He hates being challenged!

Especially by women!

[Armstead]

7. Okay...The gratituous gender card. You're off my party list.

[Snotcicles]

21. I put this on the ignore list too. nt

[revbones]

8. Yes, look at her demeanor. She hates being challenged.

Especially by anyone.

[jmg257]

16. Don't forget, it had the added benefit of confirming the 2nd amendment:

(1) The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

(2) The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the rights of individuals, including those who are not members of a militia or engaged in military service or training, to keep and bear arms.


As for his body language, no doubt he is not happy having to defend his vote. Maybe he doesn't think it was a mistake, for the reasons he gives?

[ThePhilosopher04]

19. Why do you make shit up? I know the reason, just a rhetorical question.

[beam me up scottie]

22. Body language? What's next, a palm reading from Madam FuFu?

How bout we get a phrenologist to examine him? And then we can have his tea leaves read.

Enquiring minds want to know!

[passiveporcupine]

23. Because it really wasn't a mistake, and

I don't think it is a "blanket" bill at all. They can still be sued for the reasons he says it's OK to sue them, like if they knowingly make/sell guns to people that will use them for illicit purposes, or if the guns are malfunctioning and hurt or kill someone.

What he is trying to protect, is the honest gun maker or seller, who follows the law and only makes and sells legal products, to people who pass the legal requirements to own and buy a gun and ammo.

He does not believe that suing the gun mfg or seller is the way to change our laws about guns. He would support (and has) laws that restrict certain kinds/quantities of guns/paraphernalia/ammo. He has always backed sensible gun laws. This law is not sensible. He may alter his stance on it somewhat, but not to totally accept the bill the way it was written, which makes mfgs and sellers 100% responsible for how their product is being used.

I sincerely want gun laws to change and certain items taken off the market, and I would love to see background checks and limits on how many guns you can buy, and espeicially ammo, but I am with Bernie on this. We cannot hold mfgs and sellers responsible for legal sales of legal products.

If you want certain guns off the market, make it illegal for sellers to sell them, and mfg's to make them for private use (military, of course, is a different issue).