President, Vice President, Governor, Mayor boy is the establishment in a tizzy?

[bkkyosemite]

Bernie is getting it from all sides...there is a frenzy I would say. Go Bernie!

[RandySF]

1. Very credible people.

[rhett o rick]

14. A one minute response. Your dedication is impressive. Too bad your dedication isn't

as strong when discussing issues. I am guessing you support fracking for profits and think "to hell with the peons that want clean drinking water." Clinton has zero respect for our drinking water because Chevron pays in cash.

[tex-wyo-dem]

29. Not only a one minute response...

But just a single line response in the header so he/she wouldn't be upstaged by someone else hitting "post" before he/she did.

Didn't even bother with the customary "nt" or "eom"

[rhett o rick]

40. Yep, I tried it and it's a pain in the butt. Takes a lot of hitting the refresh button and then a

quick message. And for what purpose? Anything to avoid discussing issues.

[uponit7771]

2. If the 'it' is losing this primary then I agree

[LonePirate]

3. If Bernie is elected President, doesn't he automatically become establishment then?

[Punkingal]

6. No.

some people do not change.

[LonePirate]

12. You have no idea what the establishment is, do you?

[rhett o rick]

15. How rude. The "Establishment" will not give him the time of day. He will have one hell of a time.

But it's a start in the correct direction. We must end the corrupt culture that Clinton has used to get wealthy and will continue to embrace.

[Punkingal]

18. thanks for the attack. And BTW, why don't you lose that Bernie avatar?

[LonePirate]

19. You're welcome. If you knew what the establishment was, you would know what' we're talking about.

You obviously have no clue what the establishment is. Let me fill you in - it's the people in charge of the party and the process. If he is elected President, he would automatically becomes the head of the party and the process, i.e., the head of the establishment. He is no longer the outsider at that point in time.

[Punkingal]

21. Don't tell me what I know and don't know.

It won't be the same with Bernie charge....don't you even know that? Like I said, you should drop the Bernie avatar.

[rhett o rick]

41. Don't feed them. We need to be disciplined not to respond. They are trying to detract

from actual issues of the day.

[Agschmid]

23. Apparently you aren't pure enough.

Sorry you have to deal with that from people who support the same candidate as you.

[FSogol]

42. LOL. n/t

[tex-wyo-dem]

31. Ypure explanation is flat out wrong...

"The establishment" in the context that has been discussed ad nauseum from DU to the MSM doesn't just mean who's in charge, but who's been in charge for decades and has corrupted the system.

"The establishment" has almost ruined American democracy.

[LonePirate]

38. And if Bernie becomes President, he becomes the man responsible for fixing it or perpetuating it

Either way, it's still the establishment. He can clean house at the DNC by installing all new personnel and eliminating superdelegates if he wishes. Or he can leave everything in place. He can change how the party fundraises or he can leave the current system in place. He can throw his support behind candidates he wants in office or he can tacitly approve of the people presently in office which you feel are corrupting the system.

In short, he can either take action to create a new establishment or he can leave things alone. Either way, he would be the person in charge of the establishment, thus effectively becoming the establishment himself.

[litlbilly]

8. The new progressive establishment:)

[msongs]

11. he is already establishment nt

[LonePirate]

20. A case could be made for that given how long he has been in Washington.

[Punkingal]

22. ?

Why are you pretending to be a Bernie supporter?

[LonePirate]

25. I voted for Bernie last month but I don't blindly worship him like a messiah or Jim Jones.

He's not the second coming or the cure all for everything you think is wrong with politics and politicians today.

[Punkingal]

26. Your post is offensive to people who support Bernie with what it implies about us.

[LonePirate]

39. Thousands of posts here on DU support my theory so I stand by what I said.

So many people here consider him to be infallible and refuse to acknowledge he makes mistakes (of which there have been several massive ones). Many also seem to think he's the magical solution to every problem we face which is also an impossible burden for him to bear. Those things among others are clearly indicative of what I am saying.

[IamMab]

4. It's called "having your friend's back." If Bernie had any friends, he'd know what it feels like. nt

[Snotcicles]

7. This is Ignore User worthy. nt

[Lizzie Poppet]

17. Agreed.

Can't imagine that's anyone with anything of value to add.

[Hatchling]

34. damn.

You think you've got them all and a whole bunch more crawl outta the woodwork.

My ignore finger is sore tonight.

[OilemFirchen]

5. You should probably send him some money.

It'll cheer him up.

[KPN]

9. No question.

[sadoldgirl]

10. Well, it is an unanticipatedly strong primary; so

don't be surprised if all the party apparatchiks come out
for her. The same is true for all the M$M.

They must feel the need to do so, I think.

The only one I criticize for it is the POTUS,
who claimed that he would stay neutral. Then
again he has interfered in states' primaries
before. Thus nothing new.

[NCTraveler]

13. They are democrats supporting a democrat.

I'm good with it.

[amborin]

27. blind party loyalty is always dangerous; it extinguishes democracy

[NCTraveler]

37. True in many ways.

Thankfully they see well. Biden did go out on a limb as a party guy when he said Sanders is qualified. Still, I'm good with him praising a democrat.

[jillan]

16. NOT from the VP. Biden said BOTH candidates were "Totally qualified" DON'T fall for that bs!

It's a little different when you read it in context:

(CNN)Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that both Democratic candidates are "totally qualified" to become the next president, adding that he would "like to see a woman elected."

Biden made his comments during an interview with Mic, which focused on the vice president's efforts against sexual assault.
When asked whether Sanders' remarks about Clinton's qualification and judgment were tantamount to sexism, the Vice President responded with an emphatic "no."

He went on to add that Sanders' approach contrasts sharply with the rhetorical style of GOP front-runner Donald Trump.

Biden said he views both Democratic candidates as qualified, terming the war of words between them just part of the campaign.
"Look, they're both totally qualified to be president," Biden said. "They both get in a fight. Campaigns do this."
The vice president pointed out that Sanders did not say Clinton is "not qualified because she's a woman."
Biden also brushed aside the notion that Clinton is held to a higher standard because she's a woman.
"No, I don't think she's held to a higher standard. This country's ready for a woman. There's no problem. We're going to be able to elect a woman in this country," Biden said, adding, "I would like to see a woman elected."
He continued, "Hillary's overwhelmingly qualified to be president."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/politics/joe-biden-mic-interview-woman-elected/index.html

Biden is not a huge fan of Hillary's. I'll do a post about that one of these days I've been a fan of Joe's since 2004.

[azmom]

24. Yes they are. Yes they are.

Go Bernie

[NanceGreggs]

28. Bernie's strategy from day one ...

(1) Rail against "The Establishment" as being the source of all of the nation's woes.

(2) Identify anyone who doesn't support him as being part of "The Establishment".

(3) Watch his supporters turn against "The Establishment" - i.e. anyone who doesn't support Bernie.

(4) Count the donations pouring in as a result of his courage in speaking out against "The Establishment" - i.e. anyone who doesn't support Bernie.

It was a shell game from the start.

[DJ13]

30. Bernie is a direct threat to the game of DC insiders

And after winning 8 of the last 9 states, the DC fear is getting palpable as we head into large delegate rich states.

[Jack Bone]

32. People Have The Power!!

[Betty Karlson]

33. Go Bernie. First they ignored you

Then they laughed at you

Now they are fighting you

What's next?

[Hatchling]

35. WE WIN!!!!!!

[Betty Karlson]

36. I'd love that.