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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:22 PM Apr 2016

Jane Sanders is not so good at math. Must be a family thing.

She's on MSNBC claiming that 30% of the delegates are supers, whereas in fact it's 15%. Has she not been prepped at all? Is there just a culture that facts don't matter in the Bernie Camp?

You'd think think that after all the Pinocchios, somebody in Bernieland would start trying to get a few facts right.

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Jane Sanders is not so good at math. Must be a family thing. (Original Post) DanTex Apr 2016 OP
"Is there a culture that fact"s don't matter in the Bernie Camp?" wyldwolf Apr 2016 #1
"Conservatives" belong in the Republican party LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #41
These guys are just makin shit up as they go, revolution...break up big banks ... lower HC cost uponit7771 Apr 2016 #2
Well Hillary wasn't going to make it interesting timmymoff Apr 2016 #44
The entire Sanders campaign seems to be grasping at straws recently. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #3
A more serious question is "why do I even read this horseshit"? Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #4
Seriously, how can she not know the fraction of supers? Is she not paying attention at all? DanTex Apr 2016 #5
Do you use ignore? Agschmid Apr 2016 #16
The bigger question is why do you feel the need to respond? nt DURHAM D Apr 2016 #18
An even bigger question is why you feel the need to respond to that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #27
If the truth was told, the donations would stop KingFlorez Apr 2016 #6
and she pretty much said the dog ate their tax returns, despite the fact they use Turbotax geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
at any tme . . . enid602 Apr 2016 #23
Is this the correct math? Dem2 Apr 2016 #8
Its lying not ignorance. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #9
The honesty aspect isn't an issue with them. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #10
This explains RandySF Apr 2016 #11
LOL DURHAM D Apr 2016 #19
Burlington College enid602 Apr 2016 #24
The Sanders campaign uses fantasy math where numbers are concerned redstateblues Apr 2016 #12
Seems like a good person to have do your taxes... nt anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #13
I saw that too. I was like she just lying... timlot Apr 2016 #14
They should strip her of her CPA license. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #15
Hahahaha, is she really a CPA? giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #28
36% of Hillary's current delegates are SD's Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #17
#berniemath...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #20
Perhaps she meant 30% of.. Kensan Apr 2016 #21
Nice try. SocialLibFiscalCon Apr 2016 #22
Wow, so she's actually lying, and not just mistaken. DanTex Apr 2016 #25
Apparently it is you who is bad at math, let me help you... SocialLibFiscalCon Apr 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #33
That's so absurdly dishonest that I really hope she was mistaken, and not trying to DanTex Apr 2016 #35
Math is dishonest? SocialLibFiscalCon Apr 2016 #38
Trying to divide the total number of supers by 50% of the total delegates is DanTex Apr 2016 #39
You try to keep adult and they go nuclear. Nice job staying civil, I might not have your patience! marble falls Apr 2016 #45
All the superdelegates make up 30% of what is needed for the nomination. Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #46
I didn't see your post before I posted but you are 100% correct. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #37
+1,000,000,000 MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #26
#DanBeingDan frylock Apr 2016 #29
Because that's all he has NWCorona Apr 2016 #30
Bill Clinton is so good at math Phil Gramm hired him to work in Wealth Management at UBS. Octafish Apr 2016 #31
She said she filed extensions on all her returns too. MADem Apr 2016 #34
They actually are about 30% of those needed to win. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #36
Rec for the headline alone. grossproffit Apr 2016 #40
You're just being petty mythology Apr 2016 #42
It's Cruz-esque. I think their strategy is to lie in the hopes of ecstatic Apr 2016 #43
Why don't you provide her actual quotation? Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #47

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
1. "Is there a culture that fact"s don't matter in the Bernie Camp?"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Apr 2016

It permeates the "progressive" movement. Always has.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
2. These guys are just makin shit up as they go, revolution...break up big banks ... lower HC cost
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Apr 2016

... starting to think they're in it to make things interesting

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
3. The entire Sanders campaign seems to be grasping at straws recently.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

Particularly when pressed on his path to the nomination. Why should she be any different?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. An even bigger question is why you feel the need to respond to that.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

Which of course probably means I'm due for an even bigger question.

We're gonna need a bigger thread, to hold all this inflationary inquiry.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
6. If the truth was told, the donations would stop
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

Or perhaps she is just as delusional as some of the people on the internet who think all of the delegates are super delegates waiting to still Bernie's crown.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. and she pretty much said the dog ate their tax returns, despite the fact they use Turbotax
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

and can download a copy at any time.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. The honesty aspect isn't an issue with them.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

Tomorrow a small percentage of their email list will receive a solicitation for how the establishment is publicly disparaging his wife. Money will pour in.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
24. Burlington College
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

And even lost its accreditation. Thankfully they scaped up enough cash to be rid of her.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
14. I saw that too. I was like she just lying...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

I like Jane Sanders, but if she going to be makings up her own numbers I might have to tell her to "go stand over there".

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
17. 36% of Hillary's current delegates are SD's
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:34 PM
Apr 2016

Didn't see the program so I can't speak toward the context of your post. Got a link handy?

Kensan

(180 posts)
21. Perhaps she meant 30% of..
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

the amount of total delegates needed to clinch the nomination?

I didn't see the clip, since I'm at work so I don't know the context. I imagine that would have been her point, since Hillary has a huge advantage in SD's, and the SD's will carry her over the top since the pledged delegates will not be enough.

But don't let me interfere with your rant.

 
22. Nice try.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

I watched it and what she actually said was that super delegates made up 30% of the number needed to secure the nomination, not the total number available. It saddens me that so many on the Clinton side spend so much time trying to manufacture controversy around Bernie while completely ignoring all the legitimate controversy that engulfs Hillary....

 
32. Apparently it is you who is bad at math, let me help you...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
Apr 2016

2383 delegates needed to secure nomination. 719 super delegates available.

719/2383=30.172%

Now get a life clown.

Response to SocialLibFiscalCon (Reply #32)

 
38. Math is dishonest?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

Please explain? If all 719 super delegates vote for the same candidate, that is 30% of the total needed for the nomination. That is a fact.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
39. Trying to divide the total number of supers by 50% of the total delegates is
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

something that even Bernie Madoff would blush at. You can just see them thinking, hmm, 15% doesn't sound that big, how can we pump that number up...

Whoever is in charge of lying at Camp Bernie is really outdoing themselves.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
46. All the superdelegates make up 30% of what is needed for the nomination.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

That is absolutely true.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
31. Bill Clinton is so good at math Phil Gramm hired him to work in Wealth Management at UBS.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

After his exit from the US Senate, Phil Gramm found a job at Swiss bank UBS as vice chairman. He later brought in former President Bill Clinton to the Wealth Management team. What a coincidence, they are the two key figures in repealing Glass-Steagal. Since the New Deal it was the financial regulation that protected the US taxpayer from the Wall Street casino. Oh well, what are a few hundred million in speaking fees compared to a $16 trillion bailout among friends?



It's a Buy-Partisan Who's Who:

President William J. Clinton
President George W. Bush Heh heh heh.
Robert J. McCann
James Carville
John V. Miller
Paula D. Polito
Anthony Roth
Mike Ryan
John Savercool

SOURCE: http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

One of my attorney chums doesn't like to see his name on any committees, event letterhead or political campaign literature. These folks, it seems to me, are past caring.

Some of why DUers and ALL voters should care about Phil Gramm.

Until the Panama Papers, the fact USA's Notell-6 news media corpse don't bring this up AT ALL should be of great concern to all who care about Democracy.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. She said she filed extensions on all her returns too.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

She claims she can't release past year returns until she finishes doing this year's ....or something.

I was Less Than Impressed. She is not ready for the Big Show.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
43. It's Cruz-esque. I think their strategy is to lie in the hopes of
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:06 PM
Apr 2016

depressing turnout for Clinton; after all, if Bernie is inevitable, why bother to vote?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
47. Why don't you provide her actual quotation?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

Because then you would have to admit that she claimed that the total of all superdelegates would be 30% of the number needed for the nomination.

But that doesn't fit your ridiculous meme. So, have at it, I guess.

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