Bernie again, refuses to release entire tax return, too busy (what to pull it out of a file?)

[Bill USA]

Sanders refuses again to release taxes, blames wife
http://americablog.com/2016/04/sanders-refuses-release-taxes-blames-wife.html

Bernie Sanders told CNN’s Jakes Tapper today that he can’t yet release his tax returns, even though his challenger Hillary Clinton has released eight year’s worth of such returns, because Sanders’ wife Jane does their taxes, and she’s been too busy with the campaign to get to them.

Tapper expressed surprise that Sanders, who is running as a “new” kind of candidate who is super transparent about his finances, is hiding his tax returns at such a crucial point in the Democratic primaries.
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It'll probably take them at least until California primary is over...LOL!

[font size="3"]I'm pretty sure it's in the shoe box in the hall closet! - but, don't worry, I can handle the presidency![/font]

[KingFlorez]

1. That is a scary picture

[Matt_in_STL]

18. Do tell - what is scary about it?

Are you easily frightened? Did the evil socialist make you pee your pants?

[KingFlorez]

22. ROFL

Some people are so touchy.

[Matt_in_STL]

26. No, I am truly curious.

Is it the way he looks?

[Surya Gayatri]

69. Disquieting to say the least...this one gives me the shivers, too.

That flying fickle finger....

[uponit7771]

2. Way more important than meaningless transcripts

[rhett o rick]

40. I don't think so. The transcripts would show the people that H. Clinton tells those that give

her cash for her personal wealth, a different story than she tells us.

[uponit7771]

45. The transcripts will mean little to nothing legally Sanders tax returns done wrong will

[rhett o rick]

47. The transcripts may well lose her the election. They will show the people that she really wants

to privatize Social Security and let Goldman-Sachs be in charge. They will show that she wants to further deregulate the banks.

[elljay]

54. Sure

He might have impermissibly taken a deduction for a milkshake. Maybe he has a few shell companies and is hiding tens of dollars of income. Perhaps a foundation that he donates 20 dollars to and is then paid back 18 dollars in administrative fees. After all, that year he probably earned almost the equivalent of a single speech to Wall Street.

[Dem2]

3. He'll release them

and we'll all yawn.

[Chasstev365]

4. So when is Hillary going to release her Wall Street Transcripts?

Aren't you being hipocrtical?

[Kittycat]

5. Transcripts and answers please.

Why did the foundation rake in money after Clinton helped finance deals as SOS?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

[Luminous Animal]

6. He and Jane haven't been home in a month. She said, today, when they get home

she'll retrieve them and Bernie will release them.

[geek tragedy]

8. they use Turbotax, they can log on or call and download them from anywhere

in the USA.

Looks like they are hiding something, or maybe the lack of something (i.e. charitable donations, which have been an issue in his past races)

[Luminous Animal]

13. I use turbo tax, too. Offhand, I do not know my login info.

[geek tragedy]

23. how are they doing their taxes this year?

Even if they forgot the password, one phone call would take care of that.

[Luminous Animal]

38. Extension? And no. You will not get you user name and

password over the phone.

[geek tragedy]

39. seems awfully inept and disorganized for someone running to head up the largest bureaucracy

and most expensive government in the world.

maybe he and Jane have a future working in the state department FOIA office?

[rhett o rick]

44. Still better than someone that is dedicated to amassing a personal fortune at the expense of

the lower 99%.

[IamMab]

19. I'm pretty sure the Sanders use TypewriterTax, actually. nt

[Matt_in_STL]

24. My TurboTax files are saved locally as I do mine via the purchased software

I wish I could get them now because I am in the middle of relocating and could really use access to them for my bank shopping for a new mortgage.

[geek tragedy]

25. they keep them on file so they can carry forward information from the previous year's return.

You should be able to get ahold of them if you call customer service

[Matt_in_STL]

30. Mine are actually in Turbotax files on the computer

I have a folder that stores each year. I don't go through their website or anything so I'd be surprised if they had them, unless they make themselves a copy when they e-file but I can't imagine they would. I'd have to check but I don't even recall creating an online account.

[geek tragedy]

33. ahhh, I use the website. worth checking to see if they retain records.

if they don't I think the IRS does.

[rhett o rick]

48. Mine are on a memory stick and no one but the IRS has a copy. I send it in hard copy. nm

[inchhigh]

46. but not the W2s and 1099s

You could see the forms they filled out but none of the documents they are based on. Everyone would still complain that he hadnt released everything, so whats the point? The whole exercize is a joke because we can already see that his only real source of income is is Senate Salary. We already knew about that. We want to see tax returns usually so that we can see who else is paying them or what their possible conflicts of interest might be. Bernie isnt being paid to represent anyone but us. He doesnt have any conflicts to disclose.

[dsc]

9. that excuse makes sense for this year

but what about 2014, 2013, 2012, and so on. They have adult children who could go and get them out of a file cabinet if that is where they are.

[TM99]

29. You do know that by law

tax returns are private, right?

The IRS can only release them under very specific conditions with a court order. This process of Presidential candidates releasing their most recent returns start just a few decades ago. Sanders will release them once they get home.

Do me a favor. Look up how much heel dragging there was from the Clintons in the 1992 campaign about their tax returns. They did not end up releasing all past years until 1994 due to the Whitewater financial fiasco.

[dsc]

36. then say we don't want to release them

but don't tell us bullshit stories about how busy they are. BTW on the subject of bullshit stories, here is an article from 1992, not 1994 but 1992, where they discuss 1989 and 1990 tax returns (1991 hadn't been filed yet) http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/11/us/the-1992-campaign-clintons-tax-return-shows-36-income-rise.html

[TM99]

41. That's not the point and you know it.

They will release them. They have stated why not now, and they have state when.

Nope, you missed the mark, because you either wilfully ignored it or were to young to remember.

The issue was their previous years filings that had to do with Whitewater.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/26/us/clintons-release-tax-data-showing-land-deal-losses.html

They lied about their losses even on tax returns and that is part of what led to Whitewater investigation.

So yeah, I am cool with the Sanders waiting until after NY to get home and TurboTax this years and print up a few of the past few years compared to the lying, cheating, financial shenanigans of the Clintons.

[dsc]

58. No they didn't

or Starr would have charged them with doing so. Starr spent more money investigating Clinton than was spent on the Pan Am bombing over Scotland and came up with butkus.

[TM99]

60. Oh, sweet Jesus,

go read articles from that time period. Please educate yourself, especially if you are supporting a Clinton.

[dsc]

61. you read Mr. Conoson's and Mr Lyon's book on the subject

or you can watch the movie (The Hunting of the President). The fact is the NYT was wrong over and over and over again about the Clintons.

[TM99]

64. The GOP was wrong.

But there was an issue that was not. It is just so sad that Democrats refuse to see this.

[geek tragedy]

7. his tax preparer said the dog ate their tax returns, or something like that, on MSNBC today nt

[Bill USA]

12. .. or peed on them...LOL! He and Romney have dog and tax release problems!

[LexVegas]

10. Whats he hiding? nt

[MoonRiver]

11. Knock it off, the guy has to take a charter to Rome! No time for trivialities.

Sheeeeesh

[baldguy]

14. His ties to Mossack Fonseca?

[jmg257]

15. Jane basically said the same thing today...you calling his wife a liar? nt

[rhett o rick]

49. They've called her worse. There is no limit to how low they will go. They are getting desperate.

Their hubris is starting to concern them.

[NWCorona]

16. Is he breaking any rules in not releasing them?

[TM99]

34. No laws are being broken.

It is an unspoken issue that since the mid 1970's presidential candidates will release some, not all, of their most recent returns. The hypocrites in this thread are obviously too young to remember the Clintons dragging their heels on theirs from the 1992 election.

[dsc]

37. No we remember all to well

you are out and out telling bullshit stories.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/11/us/the-1992-campaign-clintons-tax-return-shows-36-income-rise.html

By this time in 1992 he had released 1989 and 1990 returns.

[TM99]

42. Nice try but you failed.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/26/us/clintons-release-tax-data-showing-land-deal-losses.html

[NWCorona]

43. That's not to many

Would that number of returns satisfy the crowd here?

[rhett o rick]

50. Actually they hope he doesn't release them so they can use the issue as a distraction from Clinton's

position on fracking.

[krawhitham]

17. Leverage, in the debate when asked he will offer to release if she releases the transcripts

He will beat the transcripts drum during the whole debate, just to goad her into asking about the taxes

When she refuses he will make a big deal about why is she afraid to release them

[CorkySt.Clair]

20. I'm pretty sure it's in the shoe box in the hall closet! - but, don't worry, I can handle.."

SNORT



mic drop!

[Peregrine Took]

21. That Bernie....he's a sly boots!

Never know what he's goona pull next!! 😎

[anotherproletariat]

27. The Mrs. said today that they use Turbo Tax...if so, they should have easy online access.

Just sayin'

[yourpaljoey]

28. pffft

[merrily]

31. The Tapper inteview happened April 3 and has been posted over and over.

That kind of obsessiveness speaks volumes.

[Ed Suspicious]

32. Is he being audited? Is there some reason to think there is something amiss

in his tax filings? Where is the scandle here?

[MariaThinks]

35. that's a troubling excuse from the 'open' candidate. seriously, what's he hiding?

investments in the banks.

[realmirage]

51. Don't worry about Syria, as soon as I figure out

how to access my messages on my flip phone, I'll see what messages Putin left and draft a response. Don't worry, the presidency isn't that hard. - Bernie

[Dragonfli]

52. A Single Delaware Address is Home to 200,000 Shell Companies — Including 2 of Hillary Clinton’s

When will she release the tax records of her many shell companies?

Likely as soon as she releases those speeches that are so meaningless she is afraid to release them.

Turbotax software is what they use (lots of people don't use the online crap because it has been hacked more than once) and Jane Sanders will get you your files when she gets home, as she has consistently said, at which point you will conflate or make up some other false "scandal" as per David Brock's marching orders because what they reveal will disappoint you since there is no dirt in a clean house.

Since there are no real scandals to use against Bernie Sanders some people resort to non issues, conflation, and outright lies to invent them as a tactic to divert attention from the many very real scandals Of both Bill and Hillary Clinton. Ironically tax evasion via multiple shell companies are among them as well as an ongoing FBI investigation and separate intelligence community investigations.

There is something very sad about your behavior. No, I take that back as you are more likely just parroting a known liar and slut shaming blame the victim sexist slime that goes by the Name of David Brock and "you just don't get it", but do parrot the deceitful talking points that you are so drunk on Brock-aid that you may even believe are something more than baseless bullshit attacks and Rovian style talking points.

[Old Codger]

53. Why not

find something important to talk about and not waste bandwidth on trash posts...

[question everything]

55. Not ready for prime time

When you decide to run for the highest office it is not enough to conduct a Millennial poll to find out that they want free education and free health care and free cereal for the rest of their lives.

You have to know that your financial affairs would be scrutinized. Certainly being in public office for so many years should have prepared you for this.

So, no, releasing only the two summary page of 1040 is not adequate. To have done this shows how much you think of the intelligence of the American people and, worse, that you can get away with it.

Having itemized deductions of $53 K with an income of $209k - way above the average - should create questions. And that you continue to evade it, I am glad that Sanders is finally getting the scrutiny he deserved a long time ago.

[JanetLovesObama]

56. Bernie and the Mizzus are

LYING through their teeth. Plenty of time to fart around flying to Rome but no time to do taxes? Or hire a tax attorney to do them? STINKS to high Heaven !!

[TM99]

65. Ah the projection is so delicious with this one.

Pure comedy gold, y'all are!

[MattP]

57. He has only released a couple 1040's in the past never his whole tax returns, Hillary has

the lack of transparency and all the years in office don't add up

[TM99]

66. Do y'all even know what y'all are talking about anymore.

Releasing of tax returns is an unspoken recent tradition for candidates. They will release a few years worth when they run. He has had no need until now to do so. Especially since his financial disclosures as a Senator cover all of the pertinent information. Those have been available for over a decade now, and if there were any issues it would have appeared then and been investigated.

I am going to love watching each and every one of y'all eating crow when he releases them and they are just the normal old fillings with nothing out of the ordinary. So looking forward to it!

[bigtree]

59. k&r

[NurseJackie]

62. I think he's hiding something.

[ViseGrip]

63. The senate has them and he's going to release them. There will be time for review, as always.

[Surya Gayatri]

67. Goodness, this mom and pop outfit shouldn't get anywhere near the White House.

That excruciating interview of Bern's CPA (Jane) by Mark Halperin was just embarrassing. How do they hope to project a impression of competence, if they keep stepping in it like that.

Just pathetic.

[Change has come]

68. This sounds important!

Thanks for your concern!