Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:03 PM Apr 2016

The New Yorker: Can Bernie Sanders Upset Hillary Clinton in New York?

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/can-bernie-sanders-upset-hillary-clinton-in-new-york?mbid=gnep&intcid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true

snip
n the face of it, Hillary Clinton shouldn’t have much trouble winning the New York Democratic primary on April 19th. In the 2008 version of this contest, when she was running as a two-term, home-state U.S. senator, she got more than fifty-seven per cent of the vote and defeated Barack Obama by about seventeen percentage points. This time around, Clinton again has a big lead in the polls. A Fox News survey that was released on Sunday showed her getting fifty-three per cent of the vote, and Sanders getting just thirty-seven per cent.

Clinton has Governor Andrew Cuomo campaigning for her, as well as Mayor Bill de Blasio and virtually ever other Democratic leader in New York. She also has the backing of some of the biggest labor unions in the state, including the service-workers’ union and the teachers’ unions. And it will be a surprise if any of New York’s major newspapers don’t endorse her.

Sanders, despite hailing from Brooklyn, is effectively a newcomer to Empire State politics. He only opened his first campaign office here a few weeks ago, and he has been away from New York City for so long that he thought you could still use tokens in the subway. But, despite all of the disadvantages Sanders faces, his supporters and allies are still hopeful that he can defy the polls and score an upset, as he did in Michigan.

Ten days ago, Sanders held an outdoor rally at a park in the hardscrabble Mott Haven section of the South Bronx. About eighteen thousand people showed up. The crowd was so large that it couldn’t entirely fit into the allotted space. Now Sanders is campaigning full-time in New York, seeking to eat into Clinton’s lead, and drawing on a small army of volunteers.
snip
xposted in Sanders group
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The New Yorker: Can Bernie Sanders Upset Hillary Clinton in New York? (Original Post) LiberalElite Apr 2016 OP
No. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1
Not going to happen but this week will be fun. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #2
It's definitely going to be fun NWCorona Apr 2016 #6
My sources say no DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #3
Well he is on the ballot so whistler162 Apr 2016 #4
Since msnbc has been in full crazy mode today, I think the answer is YES! jillan Apr 2016 #5
It's really something to watch NWCorona Apr 2016 #9
between the smears and the cooked up polls restorefreedom Apr 2016 #14
I don't know, but he can certainly upset her fans. Marr Apr 2016 #7
No KingFlorez Apr 2016 #8
Jane is on Chris Hayes right now 8:19 pdsimdars Apr 2016 #10
I just caught the last second. How was it? Was he a dick to her? They have been jillan Apr 2016 #11
I don't remember it much pdsimdars Apr 2016 #16
It's a possibility and anyone seriously saying otherwise NWCorona Apr 2016 #12
What blueprint? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #13
Yes, OkSustainAg Apr 2016 #15

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. between the smears and the cooked up polls
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:37 PM
Apr 2016

that suddenly show her with a big lead, i would say internals are looking like

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. I just caught the last second. How was it? Was he a dick to her? They have been
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

attacking her and esp Bernie non-stop today.

The Hillary network must be nervous.

Fill me in

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
16. I don't remember it much
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure you could find it somewhere on youtube, but I don't think any of the media is a match for either of them.
As I recall, all I could think of was that she didn't misstep and got all her points out and Chris couldn't do anything to trip her up. Seemed good to me.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. It's a possibility and anyone seriously saying otherwise
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

Are fooling themselves.

I didn't realize until recently that the party registration deadline was 6 months ago and that will hurt Bernie. That was a long time ago! Bernie has been making so serious inroads with Democratic voters.

NY is in play!

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
13. What blueprint?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

<That could leave the election to be decided further north and west, in rural counties and in the industrial cities of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. In 2008, and in her senatorial elections, Clinton did very well in these areas. She has already visited some of them again this year, citing her record of trying to bring jobs and businesses to the region. “Her work as senator in upstate New York can serve as a blueprint for how she would seek to create the good-paying jobs of the future as president,” Clinton’s policy director, Jake Sullivan, told the Times.>

In the NY Daily News editorial page interview, the questioner said that there had not been any recovery in upstate NY, that this area has struggled economically for several decades, including through Hillary's tenure as NY senator, and that jobs have continued to decline during this so called economic recovery under Obama since 2009.

So what blueprint is he talking about? I can't recall exactly what Hillary said on this topic in the interview (there is no transcript, I listened to it once), but it was not anything I thought had any real substance.

Between the fracking and trade deal issues, I would think Bernie should do very well in upstate NY and he probably needs to win by a good margin there to have a chance of winning the state.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»The New Yorker: Can Berni...