2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe New Yorker: Can Bernie Sanders Upset Hillary Clinton in New York?
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/can-bernie-sanders-upset-hillary-clinton-in-new-york?mbid=gnep&intcid=gnep&google_editors_picks=truesnip
n the face of it, Hillary Clinton shouldnt have much trouble winning the New York Democratic primary on April 19th. In the 2008 version of this contest, when she was running as a two-term, home-state U.S. senator, she got more than fifty-seven per cent of the vote and defeated Barack Obama by about seventeen percentage points. This time around, Clinton again has a big lead in the polls. A Fox News survey that was released on Sunday showed her getting fifty-three per cent of the vote, and Sanders getting just thirty-seven per cent.
Clinton has Governor Andrew Cuomo campaigning for her, as well as Mayor Bill de Blasio and virtually ever other Democratic leader in New York. She also has the backing of some of the biggest labor unions in the state, including the service-workers union and the teachers unions. And it will be a surprise if any of New Yorks major newspapers dont endorse her.
Sanders, despite hailing from Brooklyn, is effectively a newcomer to Empire State politics. He only opened his first campaign office here a few weeks ago, and he has been away from New York City for so long that he thought you could still use tokens in the subway. But, despite all of the disadvantages Sanders faces, his supporters and allies are still hopeful that he can defy the polls and score an upset, as he did in Michigan.
Ten days ago, Sanders held an outdoor rally at a park in the hardscrabble Mott Haven section of the South Bronx. About eighteen thousand people showed up. The crowd was so large that it couldnt entirely fit into the allotted space. Now Sanders is campaigning full-time in New York, seeking to eat into Clintons lead, and drawing on a small army of volunteers.
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onehandle
(51,122 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)that probably is upsetting her team alot.
jillan
(39,451 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)They aren't even hiding it.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that suddenly show her with a big lead, i would say internals are looking like
Marr
(20,317 posts)lol.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)attacking her and esp Bernie non-stop today.
The Hillary network must be nervous.
Fill me in
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)I'm sure you could find it somewhere on youtube, but I don't think any of the media is a match for either of them.
As I recall, all I could think of was that she didn't misstep and got all her points out and Chris couldn't do anything to trip her up. Seemed good to me.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Are fooling themselves.
I didn't realize until recently that the party registration deadline was 6 months ago and that will hurt Bernie. That was a long time ago! Bernie has been making so serious inroads with Democratic voters.
NY is in play!
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)<That could leave the election to be decided further north and west, in rural counties and in the industrial cities of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. In 2008, and in her senatorial elections, Clinton did very well in these areas. She has already visited some of them again this year, citing her record of trying to bring jobs and businesses to the region. Her work as senator in upstate New York can serve as a blueprint for how she would seek to create the good-paying jobs of the future as president, Clintons policy director, Jake Sullivan, told the Times.>
In the NY Daily News editorial page interview, the questioner said that there had not been any recovery in upstate NY, that this area has struggled economically for several decades, including through Hillary's tenure as NY senator, and that jobs have continued to decline during this so called economic recovery under Obama since 2009.
So what blueprint is he talking about? I can't recall exactly what Hillary said on this topic in the interview (there is no transcript, I listened to it once), but it was not anything I thought had any real substance.
Between the fracking and trade deal issues, I would think Bernie should do very well in upstate NY and he probably needs to win by a good margin there to have a chance of winning the state.
OkSustainAg
(203 posts)Bernie can upset Hillary. She seems pretty upset in NY.