2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolitics USA: Obama goes on Fox and blows away the GOP’s Hillary Clinton email conspiracy theory.
After part one of the interview aired, Fox News Sunday went to Karl Rove, who tried his whimpering best to revive numerous bogus Republican Obama scandals,
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Rove tried to tie together the bogus IRS scandal, the more bogus Black Panther Party claim, and the Hillary Clinton email scandal. Obama tore through a Fox News interview like he was talking to himself in the mirror and all Karl Rove could answer with is debunked Republican conspiracies.
The Obama/Fox News Sunday interview revealed the toothless nature of conservative media. Fox News talked a big game about interviewing the President, but when they got the opportunity, the network never stood a chance against Obama.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/10/president-obama-leaves-republicans-whimpering-conquering-fox-news.html
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I still love this guy. He always makes Republicans look so stupid!
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)have frustrated those who hate him and his family brilliantly.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Yet Republicans hate him. It reminds of the scene from "6 years a slave movie" where the "slave" character makes the slave master look stupid. That enraged the slave master to no end.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)to have someone so competent representing our party after the 8 years prior to his presidency. No matter what the pundits or what his adversaries in government do or say to try to box him in a corner, he has come out ahead. I'm amazed.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)I continue to believe that she has not jeopardized Americas national security, now what Ive also said, and what shes acknowledged heres a carelessness in terms of managing emails that she has owned, and she has recognized, but I also think its important to keep this in perspective. This is somebody that has served her country for four years as Secretary of State and done an outstanding job. And no one has suggested in some ways as a consequence of how she handled emails that that detracted from her excellent ability to carry out her duties.
Not really a ringing endorsement of innocence there...
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its an overblown scandal. Hillary is not going to be indicted or going to jail. She made some innocent mistakes... thats it.
TM99
(8,352 posts)None. Period. He is a sitting president with a subordinate under an active and ongoing investigation by the FBI. He should not be saying something is illegal or not. He should have said I am sorry this is an ongoing investigation, and it would be inappropriate for me to comment.
Now Obama has stepped into the politics of it. His bias is now clearly known.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)However, reading between the lines it was clear he was giving Hillary the "all clear" sign.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Period.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)He knows exactly what is doing.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)but that is his ace in the hole. nothing will come of this.
he is a master of 9th dimensional chess.
amborin
(16,631 posts)the proceedings, then he is implicitly over-riding the FBI's investigatory autonomy and imposing his own verdict, ahead of their release of their findings and conclusions.
If he has been privy, then this says the FBI investigation was not independent.
Either way, it will only further incentivize the GOP to pursue this with vigor
DCBob
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And Hillary will look like the victim once again. No doubt her approvals will shoot up once that happens.
amborin
(16,631 posts)because it will now appear as if it was politicized. Rather than appearing the victim, HRC will
appear as the devious and imperious villain, who is above the law. It will ignite a firestorm
of lawsuits and unending turmoil.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She was WARNED and told NOT to do what she did. Obama is probably embarrassed with Hillary Coattails. She only got to be SoS because of her name. Face the facts, she's nothing without that last name or her husband.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)BTW, Hillary was a very accomplished person even before she met Bill Clinton. You obviously know nothing about her.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)Look carefully at the words they use and don't try to interpret any meaning.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Honing in on why Obama was so careful to highlight Hillary's "intent".
http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-on-hillarys-email-intent-1460322087
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I think one thing Sanders supporters can agree on is that Wall Street can't be trusted when it's attacking Democrats.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)"She would never intentionally put America in any kind of jeopardy."
he did NOT say she did not put the country in jeopardy, only that she didn't MEAN to. if she did, whether meaning to or not, she still committed a crime. intent only adds a more serious charge.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)If it was a unintentional and not due to "gross negligence" then its not a crime. Its my understanding that the accidental mishandling of classified information is fairly common among high level government staff.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i have no idea which one, where someone posted the criminal definition. it did not require intent. many here who work with sensitive info have said that if they had handled info this way they would be at least fired and probably prosecuted.
but only the fbi knows at this point the criminality or not of any of these acts.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)There was no gross negligence.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Response to DCBob (Original post)
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winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Benghazi was bullshit, but there are serious, legitimate problems with the way Hillary handled emails while SOS. No telling what the DOJ will do, but I'd be amazed if the FBI doesn't recommend prosecuting someone, and it won't be the IT guy.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)In fact it's going to be quite the opposite. There will lots of crying and whining on this board and among Republicans when the report comes out clearing her.