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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:03 PM Apr 2016

Ezra Klein - Is the media biased against Bernie Sanders?

Very interesting and nuanced piece on a subject matter that does not lend itself to nuance. There is the media's bias towards so-called serious candidates versus the media's bias toward promoting a close, contested race in order to generate ratings. In California, for a change, primary turnout is expected to break records since both the Democratic and Republican primaries are contested. Personally, being from California, it is exciting that to be a pivotal state. We are the largest State, yet the California primary is seen as nothing more than a coronation of a nominee who has locked up the nomination.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/is-the-media-biased-against-bernie-sanders/ar-BBrtYtC?ocid=spartanntp

Is the media biased against Bernie Sanders?

His supporters certainly think so. Hundreds of them recently picketed CNN, and I'm regularly deluged by emails from Bernie backers who feel the press — including Vox — is biased against their candidate.

I think there are ways in which the media tilts against Sanders, and that some of the reasons for that bias exist primarily as subtext, rather than text, which makes coverage of the candidate confusing for anyone reading it. That said, there are also important ways in which the media tilts toward Sanders and against Hillary Clinton.

The past few days offered good examples of all these dynamics. But they also spoke to deeper realities — realities that we don't often discuss — about the way the media covers all presidential candidates, and how the models that shape media narratives are often invisible to the public.

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Ezra Klein - Is the media biased against Bernie Sanders? (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2016 OP
No, the media is biased in Bernie's favor. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #1
Your statement is contrary to reality, but why worry about reality? merrily Apr 2016 #11
Excellent way to substantiate your argument without facts! Kudos. nt revbones Apr 2016 #18
Learned from the masters... daleanime Apr 2016 #26
You can see Bernie thinks the media is on his side. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #2
Is that why he calls out the media for being biased against him? merrily Apr 2016 #13
That's called "working the refs." Gomez163 Apr 2016 #21
No, it's called calling out the media on their crap. Please See Replies 9 and 16. merrily Apr 2016 #22
Google "The Clinton Rules" Then stop whining Gomez163 Apr 2016 #23
First, you see Replies 9 and 16 and stop giving me fake orders. Stating facts is not whining. Sorry merrily Apr 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #27
Or truth from any source. Buh bye. merrily Apr 2016 #33
Does the Pope drive Sister Bertrille's car? Fumesucker Apr 2016 #3
Bus will run over Klein again. They threw him under bus last year when he came out in favor of TPP. Hoyt Apr 2016 #4
What is wrong with you people and your damned bus? JackRiddler Apr 2016 #14
They were good Democrats for years. Then, you guys started slamming John Lewis, James Clyburn Hoyt Apr 2016 #30
They never were to me. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #35
I still think he needs to stay there. That tax calculator from Vox was horribly slanted. nt revbones Apr 2016 #19
Well, Sanders tax and cost calculator is horribly flawed too. Hoyt Apr 2016 #31
Yes. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #5
better question: Is Ezra Klein a Hillary shill? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #6
Every honest DUer knows the answer to that. merrily Apr 2016 #9
Is a pig's ass pork? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #7
Let's ask the fox if that henhouse should have better anti-fox security. merrily Apr 2016 #8
Time was the primary bias and there is no making up for 2015. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #10
oh, heaven. of course not. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #12
For me to poop on! merrily Apr 2016 #15
The Tyndall Report cited in this post merrily Apr 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #17
Nice of you to provide proof. Oh wait you have none... nt revbones Apr 2016 #20
Well ok if you say so LOLOL! Avalux Apr 2016 #29
This morning none of the local news outlets covered Bernie's rally longislandAnnie Apr 2016 #25
My experience in San Diego is both a yes and no nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #38
Hopefully, his ass is only winning with the coalition Clinton lost with in 08... why wouldn't they? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #28
If "the media" means something other than social networking sites lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #32
Does it even make sense to talk about the "bias" of "the media" in 2016? Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #34
Ezra Klein thinks he and his milieu are "the media" JackRiddler Apr 2016 #36
If people like Klein are now trying to explain this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #37
 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
2. You can see Bernie thinks the media is on his side.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

Hence the constant spinning every victory into momentum when the delegate count hasnt changed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Is that why he calls out the media for being biased against him?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

Tell us which media outlets get talking points from Bernie's campaign and repeat them they way they do with Hillary's.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. No, it's called calling out the media on their crap. Please See Replies 9 and 16.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

I can link you to hundreds of stories by reputable journalists about what a raw deal media has given Sanders, some of which links are in the post I mentioned in Reply 16. How many stories can you link me to saying media's been biased in his favor?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
24. First, you see Replies 9 and 16 and stop giving me fake orders. Stating facts is not whining. Sorry
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

facts seem to annoy some Hillary supporters so much.

No, I cannot tell a lie. I'm not the least bit sorry facts annoy some people.

Response to merrily (Reply #24)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Bus will run over Klein again. They threw him under bus last year when he came out in favor of TPP.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

He did criticize elements of TPP, but felt on whole it was a good thing.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. What is wrong with you people and your damned bus?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

Seriously. Who defined that Klein or Krugman or whoever was ever on my side in the first place? I never saw it that way, ever. Many years ago. Give it a rest. We can criticize people's views and statements without this "bus" nonsense.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. They were good Democrats for years. Then, you guys started slamming John Lewis, James Clyburn
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

and every other Democrat that didn't support your candidate. Heck, some of you even bashed Elizabeth Warren for not officially endorsing him. I guest rather than "throwing them under the bus," we could say you guys "st on good Democrats who happen to differ with you."

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
35. They never were to me.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

And like most people who usually vote for Democratic candidates (and never Republicans), I don't particularly value the New Democrats or the Democratic machines where everything's fixed and paid for in advance.

Who says Klein is a Democrat at all?

Klein and Krugman were always (mostly) full of shit as far as I was ever concerned. Long before I ever imagined Sanders would be running for president.

And I guess John Lewis and James Clyburn shouldn't have talked all that bullshit in the present day, in the form of ridiculous attacks that they started (about how one never saw Sanders in 1966 and the other's claims that he is out to destroy historic black colleges, etc.).

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. Time was the primary bias and there is no making up for 2015.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

In 2015, TV news coverage of Trump:Clinton:Sanders was about 20 :1 (where the 1 is rounding up from 0.4). This is why Trump is where he is today. This is why Sanders despite the enormous crowds he was attracting, the money he was raising, and his constant rise in the poll still had shockingly low name recognition as the campaigns started.

Even right now, the TV shows anything Trump does in full, and I can see right now how the NY media (it was obvious today on NY1, owned by Time-Warner) does not give the Sanders campaign coverage nearly equal in time to Clinton's, or allow Sanders or his surrogates the same time to speak.

The pretense of sophisticated analysis can hide the obvious. "Bias" is first of all structural, top-down, and ideological. Does Klein talk about ownership? Who gets hired? Who gets promoted? These affect ideological direction over the middle term at the latest. How are the terms and issues are defined in the first place? How did it turn out that status-quo conservatives like himself and M. Yglesias seriously get to be depicted as though they were on the liberal (i.e., left) side of the acceptable spectrum of discourse?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. For me to poop on!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

Anyone who uses the term "conspiracy theory" seriously is suspect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710043

http://jackpineradicals.org/entry.php?154-Conspiracy-theories-Give-Ockham-s-Razor*-a-rest-now-and-again-will-ya


(The replies on both threads are great.)

But Smigel rarely uses any term seriously--except "for me to poop on"-- which he always means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smigel

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. The Tyndall Report cited in this post
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280166952

along with many stories about the Tyndall Report and about media coverage of Bernie, some of which are also cited in that post, say yes, media has given Bernie a raw deal. Some Hillary supporters will deny that to the death, though.


Response to TomCADem (Original post)

longislandAnnie

(13 posts)
25. This morning none of the local news outlets covered Bernie's rally
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

Here in New York, I listened to the local TV news and AM radio stations this morning and they all reported on Hillary's visits to black churches today and not one report on Bernie's 11:00 rally in Coney Island on the boardwalk. If I had not seen it on DU, I would not have even known about it. So is Bernie's campaign reaching out to local news media who are then actively ignoring him and censoring his message?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
38. My experience in San Diego is both a yes and no
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:21 PM
Apr 2016

I saw the notice, and like all reporters, except for the traveling media, we contacted the Sanders Campaign We did the same with Cruz last Friday... I shall know tomorrow I guess. And no, I do not get hives or break into cooties.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. Does it even make sense to talk about the "bias" of "the media" in 2016?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

Are we lumping the Guardian online together with CNN together with Breitbart?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
36. Ezra Klein thinks he and his milieu are "the media"
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

which is funny in the first place.

Yes, the corporate-owned media for which Klein works are biased against anything that doesn't fit into the very narrow bandwidth of establishment "liberal" to "conservative" ideology.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. If people like Klein are now trying to explain this
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

it means that they know they are screwing the pooch. That said, his statements on decisions and models and that many in the media like Sanders... is very correct. I have seen this myself

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