2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill the real Bernie please come forward?
Perhaps that's not the best idea.
Excerpt:
Bernie has no social skills, no sense of humor, and he's quick to boil over. He's the most unpolitical person in politics I've ever come across, Graf said. Others who have covered Sanders agree.
Seven Days, the lively alternative weekly in Burlington, is offering extensive coverage of the Sanders campaign, reporting framed by decades of coverage. A recent article by Paul Heintz titled Anger Management featured current and former staff who have experienced the dark side of Sanders.
They characterize the senator as rude, short-tempered and, occasionally, downright hostile. Though Sanders has spent much of his life fighting for working Vermonters, they say he mistreats the people working for him, Heintz wrote. Among those he cited was Steve Rosenfeld, Sanders' press secretary during his 1990 House campaign, and author of In Making History in Vermont.
"At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote in his account of the campaign. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff."
http://lansingcitypulse.com/article-12189-the-trouble-with-bernie.html
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Hey, wait a minute...
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Just in the last couple of weeks, we've seen a total lack of social skills - at least when dealing with the 99 percent - no sense of humor, and she boils over at room temperature. The only time we see a genuine laugh from her is when she talks about killing people.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Unless you shut your eyes and put your fingers in your ears.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)recently? ok.
merrily
(45,251 posts)and in the Democratic Party until he ran against the Queen in Waiting.
Please don't be dishonest. thanks in advance.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128018753
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)No social skills and no sense of humor.
Bernie doesn't suffer fools gladly, he tells em off. Who wants to bet the backstory details will show this guy has an axe to grind cause Bernie has proven him wrong sometime in the past?
Dammit, now i gotta go look. The dishes can wait a few more minutes i suppose.
Henhouse
(646 posts)"At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote in his account of the campaign. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders
Joe Navarro M.A.
Dangerous Cult Leaders
Dangerous Traits of Cult Leaders
Posted Aug 25, 2012
.... they were or are all pathologically narcissistic. They all have or had an over-abundant belief that they were special, that they and they alone had the answers to problems, and that they had to be revered. They demanded perfect loyalty from followers, they overvalued themselves and devalued those around them, they were intolerant of criticism, and above all they did not like being questioned or challenged. And yet, in spite of these less than charming traits, they had no trouble attracting those who were willing to overlook these features.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)It does make you seem kind of deranged.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)They always test out the ideas there before rolling them out to the rest of us.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Then again, let 'em do their thing. They're hurting themselves, and that comports nicely with my agenda.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)Whenever I do visit those threads I have to admit that I enjoy reading them.
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Yet, I've seen five posts from Henhouse today alone. Nothing unusual there!
frylock
(34,825 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Things that make you go hmmmm...
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Christopher Graff, 52, a writer who was in charge of The A.P.'s Vermont bureau in Montpelier, was told Monday he no longer had a job. The move came after he put a partisan column on the wire, and as the news agency is consolidating some of its bureaus across state lines.
More at http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/business/media/22vermonts.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)Thanks for the research.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)and the old ones being the only alternative are better than capitulating.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Bernie is a brash asshole to his colleagues.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)I think bernie can get very cranky when he sees that someone does not put the people first.
I WELCOME HIS CRANKYNESS!
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)None of his colleagues are willing to go out on a limb for him. Even pathetic McCain has Lindsey Graham as a friend.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)then we will see.
Henhouse
(646 posts)Most of the big-name Democrats in the state, like former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin and Sen. Patrick Leahy, have endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/bernie-sanders-vermont-super-delegates-220435#ixzz45Rv0cQGJ
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Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)He is a very unlikable person....politics is about getting things done and you need to be able to make friends to do that.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The Clintons are known to politically destroy those that don't support them... And they don't want to lose their positions.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Anyone Clinton destroyed in 2008 for supporting Obama.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)But funny how everything was leaked after he was put on the 'hit list' and published and publicised by known Clinton supporters.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)It is even harder to hide a baby.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)It is very easy to hide. Ask all those in the public light that got away with it.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Good luck hiding your mistress and her baby right now. 20 years ago wouldn't have been as much of a problem.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)...are the ones publicizing it, it is really hard to hide the fact.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)People enjoy watching politicians fall apart.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Why are we just finding out about Denis Hassert's child rape scandal? You don't think that the two parties thoroughly vets it's leaders and never knew about it until just now? If so, I have a bridge to sell you...
merrily
(45,251 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)I was pretty open at the onset but I couldn't figure out why Bernie has absolutely no friends. Speaks volumes to what his colleagues think of him.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)I see it as indicative of his temperament and character. I'm very troubled at the idea of someone like that running the party.
merrily
(45,251 posts)him.
Sanders' Senate colleagues and Howard Dean all were full of praise for him--until he decided to interfere with the coronation and the DNC put the squeeze on all Democrats to unite against him. In the House, he was elected chair of the Progressive Caucus 8 years running. How much could they have hated him?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128018753
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Must suck not to have friends at work.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)From a Daily Fix interview with Chris Graff, the longtime Vermont bureau chief for the Associated Press and author of "Dateline Vermont"
GRAFF: Incredibly successful. The origins of almost everything great in Burlington today can be traced back to Bernies tenure as mayor. When he was elected in 1981 many city leaders feared he would care more about foreign policy (his team and his supporters were known as "Sanderistas" than city matters. But he was laser-focused on fixing potholes and economic development and rebuilding the waterfront and saving the downtown and providing arts and developing programs for children. Today Burlington ranks as one of the most livable cities in the nation. (Editor's note: He's right!)
FIX: Sanders has been in Washington for the past 24 years straight first in the House and now in the Senate. How do Vermonters regard him? Still as an outsider to the establishment or part of the establishment?
GRAFF: Most love him. In every parade that Bernie marches in, he gets the biggest and loudest cheers from Vermonters across the political spectrum. He remains very popular in liberal and conservative regions of the state. Thats not to say that he is universally loved. Some business leaders, Republican leaders and even some Democrats see him as the crazy uncle in the attic.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #22)
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noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)posted again in the Hillary group tonight by the same person. I don't expect that the Hillary group will do the research like you did.
Check it out
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110797717
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Oh wait...
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Or maybe this:
Or maybe you mean like this:
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)He has a very sweet smile.
He cares about everyone.
He does not worship money.
He wants world peace.
He wants a living wage.
He wants to take on corruption in the establishment.
He wants to take on our corporate media.
He is a wonderful kind man.
Jane's eyes light up when she talks about him.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Do tell, Sam.
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How many ex-Clinton staffers have spilled the beans about Hillary and Bill? Why I believe we could post about them for days.
If we were desperate, that is.