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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:25 AM Apr 2016

Hillary: Candidate for the Jet Set





High fashion, expense for Hillary travel

by LAURA MYERS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL, Aug. 16, 2014

EXCERPT...

She usually requires those who pay her six-figure fees for speeches to also provide a private jet for transportation — only a $39 million, 16-passenger Gulfstream G450 or larger will do.

SNIP...

But Clinton’s $225,000 is something of a cut-rate. Documents obtained by the newspaper show that she initially asked for $300,000 and reveal that she insists on controlling every detail of the private event, large and small, to ensure that she will be the center of attention.

SNIP...

According to her standard speaking contract, Clinton will remain at the event no longer than 90 minutes; will pose for no more than 50 photos with no more than 100 people; and won’t allow any press coverage or video- or audio-taping of her speech.

The only record allowed will be made by a stenographer whose transcription will be given only to Clinton. The stenographer’s $1,250 bill, however, will go to the UNLV Foundation.

The foundation, meanwhile, is prohibited from advertising the event on radio, TV or billboards. Mail and website ads are allowed, although Clinton staffers must approve in writing any promotional material. One unhappy UNLV Foundation official in an email complained of “meddling” after Clinton’s agency edited a description of the annual dinner to “dumb it down.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/high-fashion-expense-hillary-travel



Gee. Don't you wish you had a job where people would invite you to fly in a Gulfstream G450 or above jet plane, too?
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Hillary: Candidate for the Jet Set (Original Post) Octafish Apr 2016 OP
Nice work if you can get it. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #1
The second part what you said. Octafish Apr 2016 #2
Dial ahead 5 or 6 years from now edgineered Apr 2016 #4
I don't think she's in the current race for the money. Armstead Apr 2016 #5
The Demands Of The Purposefully SELF IMPORTANT! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #3
In my heart of hearts I hope she does. What the record tells me is otherwise. Octafish Apr 2016 #7
Walking through life without paying for anthing, why does she need all that cash? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6
It's mental illness. Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #8
Results... Major Nikon Apr 2016 #16
Awww...poor Hillary acolytes got their fee fees hurt! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #18
It is my sincere hope she is the kind, warm, liberal heart like in that commercial. Octafish Apr 2016 #9
in this same vein, much of the Clinton Foundation expenditures are on travel expenses, which amborin Apr 2016 #10
One does want to bring one's entourage -- and friends, of course. Octafish Apr 2016 #11
and this: amborin Apr 2016 #13
Now THAT's an entourage! Octafish Apr 2016 #15
Really? Only 5% of their revenue is paid out in grants? Autumn Apr 2016 #17
I'd say it needs further analysis. The Clinton Foundation says that number is misleading Octafish Apr 2016 #19
What a diva! Maybe we should refer to her as HRH instead of 2cannan Apr 2016 #12
It's got a nice ''ring'' to it. Just don't ask for the royal life raft -- it's made of concrete. Octafish Apr 2016 #14
K & R AzDar Apr 2016 #20

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,731 posts)
1. Nice work if you can get it.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

If she's elected, how in the world will she survive on the paltry salary of a president? Or is the whole plan to tighten her belt for the duration of her term and then cash in even bigger after that?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. The second part what you said.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016


Warren Buffett: He made $12.7 billion this year or ~$37 million per day; ~$1.54 million per hour; or ~$25,694 per minute.

Bill Gates: He earned $11.5 billion this year which works out to be ~$33.3 million per day; $1.38 million per hour; or ~$23,148 per minute.

Sheldon Adelson: The casino mogul earned $11.4 billion this year which means he made ~$33 million per day; ~$1.38 million per hour; or $22,946 per minute.

Jeff Bezos: He made $11.3 billion this year or ~$32.7 million per day; $1.36 million per hour; or ~$22,745 per minute.

Mark Zuckerberg: The Facebook founder made $10.5 billion this year or ~$30.4 million per day; ~$1.27 million per hour; or ~$21,135 per minute.

Masayoshi Son: He made $10.3 billion this year or ~$29.86 billion per day; ~$1.24 million per hour; or $20,732 per minute.

Sergey Brin: He made $9.3 billion this year which works out to be ~$26.9 million per day, $1.12 million per hour; or $18,719 per minute.

Larry Page: He made $9.3 billion this year which works out to be ~$26.9 million per day, $1.12 million per hour; or $18,719 per minute.

Lu Chee Woo: He brought in $8.3 billion this year or ~$24 million per day; ~$1 million per hour; or ~$16,706 per minute.

Carl Icahn: The billionaire investor made $7.2 billion this year, which works out to be ~$20.87 million/day; ~$869,565/hour; or ~$14,492/minute.

SOURCE: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-warren-buffett-makes-per-hour-2013-12

So, a billionaire makes about as much as the average schmuck working three part-time, minimum wage jobs for a year, per minute. Then, they move it offshore, like the Panama Papers show.

PS: Note how Jeff Bezos is making so much an hour he can afford to keep the lights on at Washington Post.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
4. Dial ahead 5 or 6 years from now
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton will be explaining how, as a mere pauper in 2016, she overcame the struggles facing the average American.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
5. I don't think she's in the current race for the money.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

Its the power and Ego and interests of their well-heeled buddies.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
3. The Demands Of The Purposefully SELF IMPORTANT!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

I wonder, does Hillary remember the names of those mothers of slain unarmed black males that she "used" in that town hall a while back?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. In my heart of hearts I hope she does. What the record tells me is otherwise.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

Since Vietnam, and especially since Poppy Bush administration, it's been a steady stream of wars without end for profits without cease to benefit a very small number of people.



Words of wisdom from a fellow Detroiter who's fought the good fight in public for as long as I can remember:



Hillary Is the Candidate of the War Machine

by Jeffrey D. Sachs
Common Dreams, Feb. 5, 2016

There's no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is the candidate of the military-industrial complex. The idea that she is bad on the corporate issues but good on national security has it wrong. Her so-called foreign policy "experience" has been to support every war demanded by the US deep security state run by the military and the CIA.

Hillary and Bill Clinton's close relations with Wall Street helped to stoke two financial bubbles (1999-2000 and 2005-8) and the Great Recession that followed Lehman's collapse. In the 1990s they pushed financial deregulation for their campaign backers that in turn let loose the worst demons of financial manipulation, toxic assets, financial fraud, and eventually collapse. In the process they won elections and got mighty rich.

Yet Hillary's connections with the military-industrial complex are also alarming. It is often believed that the Republicans are the neocons and the Democrats act as restraints on the warmongering. This is not correct. Both parties are divided between neocon hawks and cautious realists who don't want the US in unending war. Hillary is a staunch neocon whose record of favoring American war adventures explains much of our current security danger.

SNIP...

Hillary's record as Secretary of State is among the most militaristic, and disastrous, of modern US history. Some experience. Hilary was a staunch defender of the military-industrial-intelligence complex at every turn, helping to spread the Iraq mayhem over a swath of violence that now stretches from Mali to Afghanistan. Two disasters loom largest: Libya and Syria.

Hillary has been much attacked for the deaths of US diplomats in Benghazi, but her tireless promotion of the overthrow Muammar Qaddafi by NATO bombing is the far graver disaster. Hillary strongly promoted NATO-led regime change in Libya, not only in violation of international law but counter to the most basic good judgment. After the NATO bombing, Libya descended into civil war while the paramilitaries and unsecured arms stashes in Libya quickly spread west across the African Sahel and east to Syria. The Libyan disaster has spawned war in Mali, fed weapons to Boko Haram in Nigeria, and fueled ISIS in Syria and Iraq. In the meantime, Hillary found it hilarious to declare of Qaddafi: "We came, we saw, he died."

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/05/hillary-candidate-war-machine


Wars without end, abroad and at home. Amen.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
6. Walking through life without paying for anthing, why does she need all that cash?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

Her greed is the reason the Pope won't accept HER invite to the Foundation, along with many other celebrities!

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
8. It's mental illness.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

Obsessive compulsive focused on $$, Like most of the Global elite

and the megalomania

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
16. Results...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

On Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:09 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

It's mental illness.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1697873

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Hillary Clinton is mentally ill? Hide this crap which is more appropriate for a RW site. It's ok to not like Clinton because of her policies, but labeling her "mentally ill" is not cool at all.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:18 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you don't like this crap reply to the post and explain why. Or just ignore it. Just because you think something is crap doesn't mean it should be hidden.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hillary may be mentally ill...not hiding for that. I vote to hide due to the posts generalization that most of the global elite are.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Please get a grip. Absurd.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Aighh.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. It is my sincere hope she is the kind, warm, liberal heart like in that commercial.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

The reality is different. Take Libya. It has oil. Lots of oil. Oil and mineral extraction are one of the best ways to make money. Which is nice, if the money goes to the people who own the oil. But, the money from oil usually doesn't go to its rightful owners.



Shaking hands with Gaddafi's son, in happier days.



"Libya has some of the biggest and most proven oil reserves — 43.6 billion barrels — outside Saudi Arabia, and some of the best drilling prospects."

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/component/acymailing/archive/view/listid-3-alerts-precis/mailid-74-three-little-words-wikileaks-libya-oil.html



Mohammad Gaddafi shared the oil wealth with the Libyan people, not just the one-percent Wall Street types.



For over four decades, Gaddafi promoted economic democracy and used the nationalized oil wealth to sustain progressive social welfare programs for all Libyans. Under Gaddafi’s rule, Libyans enjoyed not only free health-care and free education, but also free electricity and interest-free loans. Now thanks to NATO’s intervention the health-care sector is on the verge of collapse as thousands of Filipino health workers flee the country, institutions of higher education across the East of the country are shut down, and black outs are a common occurrence in once thriving Tripoli.

-- http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-from-africas-wealthiest-democracy-under-gaddafi-to-us-nato-sponsored-terrorist-haven/5482974


While little reported in the USA, Libya's former leader also used the wealth to better life throughout the poorest nations of Africa.

''War on Libya is War on Entire Africa.''

In 2010 Gaddafi offered to invest $97 billion in Africa to free it from Western influence, on condition that African states rid themselves of corruption and nepotism. Gaddafi always dreamed of a Developed, United Africa and was about to make that dream come true - and nothing is more terrifying to the West than a Developed, United Africa.
-- http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/apps/blog/show/7869956-war-on-libya-is-war-on-entire-africa-



Wall Street-on-the-Potomac prefers to do business with those it can relate to: greedy types. Still, we hope, eh ViseGrip?

amborin

(16,631 posts)
10. in this same vein, much of the Clinton Foundation expenditures are on travel expenses, which
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

apparently = boondoggle luxury trips to various locales

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. One does want to bring one's entourage -- and friends, of course.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016
Hillary Exposed! Clinton Foundation Tax Records Raise Questions About Spending — $8M In Travel Costs Alone!

Radar online (hah hah hah)
Posted on Jul 8, 2015 @ 3:56AM

As Hillary Clinton ramps up her race to the White House, she is facing a growing wave of criticism behind the scenes about whether her charity, the Clinton Foundation, is properly using donations. Tax records obtained by RadarOnline.com reveal, for example, that the organization spent nearly as much on travel expenses as on grants!

The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, generated $144,382,361 in revenue in 2013, according to IRS tax returns reviewed by RadarOnline.com, but only paid out $8,865,052 million, roughly 5% of their revenue, in grants.

At the same time, travel expenses totaled $8,448,502 million, with supplemental information stating “The Board recognizes that, due to extraordinary security and other requirements, William J. Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Chelsea Clinton may require the need to travel by charter or in first class, the determination of which will be made on a case-by-case basis.”

Salaries of executives also increased from $18,438,574 total in 2012 to $29,914,108 total in 2013. With just 402 employees, that means the average salary is $74,413, well above the national average of $50,500. Specifically, then-Director of Marketing Frederic Poust brought in a whopping $464,229 in salary for 2013, with the CFO, CEO, Executive Director and other senior staff making well into the six figures.

In addition, the foundation bled cash for its swanky fundraising events. One London gala only generated $364,151 in gross income, on $15,197,538 in gross receipts. Net income from the fundraising events was in the red for $859,030.

And conferences sponsored by the foundation cost $9,224,775. Three conference production companies were paid $2 million in services, $626,059 to a web design company, and $448,750 to the Community Counseling Service Company for endowment plan development.

CONTINUED...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/clinton-foundation-bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-tax-records-revenue-grants/

Gosh, amborin! I wonder why Rachel and Chris Hayes don't talk about that? I can understand how CIABCNNBCBSFauxNooz won't. I just did the math and can tell you we'd save a heck of a lot of money if we had a Foundation.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Now THAT's an entourage!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016
Bill Clinton's Africa entourage

Donors and big campaign fundraisers join him on his annual foundation trip abroad.


By Annie Karni
Politico, 04/28/15, Updated 04/29/15

EXCERPT...

Along this year for the annual foundation trip abroad is Jay Jacobs and his wife, Mindy, longtime Clinton fundraisers and foundation supporters. Jacobs, who has donated between $500,000 and $1 million to the foundation, is also a “Hillstarter,” a “Ready for Hillary” donor, and is planning to be a major fundraiser for Clinton campaign, as he was in 2008. Last month, Jacobs, the CEO of a chain of summer camps, brought Clinton in to give a paid speech at the American Camp Association, where he also lead a q-and-a session with her on the stage.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild is also on the trip; the billionaire CEO has donated between $100,000 and $250,000 to the foundation and her extended family has invested in the Clinton’s son-in-law’s hedgefund. De Rothschild has been a fierce Clinton supporter for years, and was one of the leading “PUMA” (“Party Unity My Ass”) activists after Clinton lost the Democratic primary to Barack Obama in 2008, going so far as to back Republican John McCain in the general election.

Also traveling in Clinton’s entourage is Washington lobbyist Liz Robbins, who in the past has hosted events for the Clintons at her East Hampton home. Her firm, Liz Robbins Associates, has donated between $10,000 and $25,000 to the foundation.

Strategic marketing expert Marcy Simon, who contributed to Clinton’s presidential bid in 2008, has given between $10,000 and $25,000 to the foundation, is another guest on the trip. She is expected to support Hillary Clinton’s bid, and has been tweeting as much. “You have my vote Madame President,” she wrote the day Clinton officially announced her candidacy.

A relatively new foundation supporter traveling with Clinton is Beverly Dale, who worked in the biotechnology industry and is now a retired philanthropist. Dale donated to Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid, campaign finance records show.

Hadeel Ibrahim — daughter of the former telecom executive and billionaire Mo Ibrahim — is also visiting foundation projects with the group. Ibraheem, who sits on the board of the Clinton Foundation, has become a close friend of Chelsea Clinton’s through their charity work, and has spent Thanksgiving with the Clintons at their home in Chappaqua, according to a profile in Vogue. She is the founding executive director of the Mo Ibrahim Foundation, and started the Africa Center in New York City.

Others in the delegation include wealthy Ugandan Rumi Verjee, who made his fortune franchising Domino’s Pizza in England and whose own foundation donated between $500,000 and $1 million to the Clinton Foundation; fashion designer and Clinton Foundation partner Tanya Taylor, who is also a Hillary Clinton supporter, and her husband Michel Pratte; Oleg and Heather Nodelman, who have donated between $100,000 and $250,000 to the foundation; Dropbox founder Drew Houston and CFO Sujay Jaswa, who have both given handsomely to the foundation; foundation donors Omar and Kathleen Saeed; and John and Rebecca Mackay, who have donated between $5 and $10 million to the foundation.

CONTINUED...

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/bill-clintons-africa-entourage-117445

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. I'd say it needs further analysis. The Clinton Foundation says that number is misleading
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

They say they don't give it away. They're the "implementers."

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

After reading that, I need an implementer. And I'm gonna make it a double.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. It's got a nice ''ring'' to it. Just don't ask for the royal life raft -- it's made of concrete.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

Elizabeth Warren describes briefing First Lady Hillary Clinton about a bankruptcy bill that would hurt single mothers and children:



In this excerpt from Warren and Tyagi's 2003 book The Two Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke, the authors lay out their arguments against the "predatory" lending practices of the mortgage and credit card industries and their effect on American families. The authors maintain that re-regulation of consumer lending is needed to level the playing field between creditors and families and reverse a disturbing trend: the transfer of wealth away from lower- and middle-income families, "directly into the pockets of giant lenders and their shareholders." Read Elizabeth Warren's interview with FRONTLINE elsewhere on this site.


EXCERPT...

Mrs. Clinton's newfound opposition to the bankruptcy bill surprised me. Given her legal training and her devotion to women's causes, I had certainly expected her to grasp the importance of the issue. But President Clinton's staff had been quietly supporting the bankruptcy bill for several months. Bill Clinton wanted to show that he and other "New Democrats" could play ball with business interests, and the major banks were lobbying hard for changes in the bankruptcy laws. I had expected that it would take a lot more than thirty minutes to convince Hillary Clinton to depart from the position widely rumored to be supported by her husband.

But Mrs. Clinton stayed firm in her fight against "that awful bill." She was convinced that the bill was "unfair to women and children," and she intended to stand by her principles, even if it cost some Democratic party candidates campaign contributions. Over the ensuing months, she was true to her word. With her strong support, the Democrats slowed the bill's passage through Congress. When Congress finally passed the bill in October 2000, President Clinton vetoed it. The following summer, an aide explained to me the abrupt about-face: "A couple of days after Mrs. Clinton met with you, we changed sides (on the bankruptcy bill) so fast that you could see skid marks in the hallways of the White House." Thanks to Mrs. Clinton, families still had one financial refuge left -- at least for the moment.

But the story doesn't end there. The banking lobbyists were persistent. President Clinton was on his way out, and credit card giant MBNA emerged as the single biggest contributors to President Bush's campaign. In the spring of 2001, the bankruptcy bill was reintroduced in the Senate, essentially unchanged from the version President Clinton had vetoed the previous year.

This time freshman Senator Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the bill.

Had the bill been transformed to get rid of all those awful provisions that had so concerned First Lady Hillary Clinton? No. The bill was essentially the same, but Hillary Rodham Clinton was not. As First Lady, Mrs. Clinton had been persuaded that the bill was bad for families, and she was willing to fight for her beliefs. Her husband was a lame duck at the time he vetoed the bill; he could afford to forgo future campaign contributions. As New York's newest senator, however, it seems that Hillary Clinton could not afford such a principled position. Campaigns cost money, and that money wasn't coming from families in financial trouble. Senator Clinton received $140,000 in campaign contributions from banking industry executives in a single year, making her one of the top two recipients in the Senate. Big banks were now part of Senator Clinton's constituency. She wanted their support, and they wanted hers -- including a vote in favor of "that awful bill."

CONTINUED...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/credit/more/cement.html



Money. Those without it don't know what they're missing.

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