So, is 15 across the nation now the right thing for all of you who steadfastly attacked it?

[Warren Stupidity]

New York, although comfortable for Clinton personally, has presented her campaign with a tightrope to walk: How to talk about her position on the minimum wage in the midst of the Empire State raising its state minimum to $15.

Clinton has supported raising the federal minimum wage to $12 for much of her campaign while also supporting states such as New York and California and cities like Seattle, which have enacted higher minimum wages.

But on Saturday, Clinton appeared to indicate that she wanted a $15 federal minimum wage.
"I am very proud of New York and I was with (Gov. Andrew) Cuomo when he signed the bill raising the minimum wage in New York," Clinton said. "We now gotta do that for the entire nation."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/09/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-republicans-new-york/index.html

Please proceed.

[PowerToThePeople]

1. .

[Trenzalore]

2. You could say $100

Until we flip congress it isn't happening.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. It just happened in NY and California. But that wasn't the question.

Clinton''s position before yesterday, defended here by her loyal campers, was that 12 was the right number, that 15 was too high. Her new position appears to be that 15 is the right number.

[Trenzalore]

7. Federally

I think $12 would be monumental given the current political environment.

[Armstead]

11. I think LGBT Marriage is a non-starter. Never happen.

[Trenzalore]

13. The Supreme Court is going to make a $15 hour wage nt.

[Armstead]

22. Always a reason things can't be done. So don't ever try.

The SC would never have ruled on it if states hadn't passed it

[anigbrowl]

16. It will roll out over several years in CA, you're not guaranteed $15/hr now

Unless you live in SF Bay area or LA, basically. $12/hr seems like a reasonable national level given variations in the cost of living. Of course I would like to see it automatically recalculated on an annual or electoral cycle basis rather than needing to be manually adjusted by congress.

[thesquanderer]

23. Nah. The quote says she wants to raise the minimum wage for the entire nation.

It doesn't say she wants to raise it to $15 for the entire nation. It's not inconsistent with her earlier statements.

[bettyellen]

24. I don't think any of the candidates have suggested some places need a higher minimum- have they?

12$ was what was broadly supported by the senate, it's not a number she pulled out of her ass designed to make her look like a tough negotiator. I assume she is talking about raising the floor on a federal level- like she has for quite a while.

[beam me up scottie]

4. If the head weathervane points in that direction, sure!

Just wait until she stops pivoting and points right permanently, I can't wait to see what they're willing to defend.

[Yurovsky]

15. She's just being "realistic"...

stick that finger in the air, gauge the public sentiment, then, and only then, stake out a position, but write it in pencil... And keep an eraser handy...

[beam me up scottie]

17. Exactly!

Just wait until Annie Oakley starts pandering to the religious right and gun owners again.

[Ferd Berfel]

19. Pragmatic

[TeddyR]

5. $15

IS too high. And I'm a Bernie supporter. $15 might work in NYC or San Francisco but is too high in many, many places.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. So you make less than $15?

[TeddyR]

10. I make a whole lot more than $15 an hour

But when I was a youngster working at a grocery store, car wash or fast food restaurant I made something around minimum wage, and it was a whole hell of a lot less than $15 an hour (probably in the $4+ an hour range). $15 hour federal minimum wage isn't something we need or that I would support.

[NorthCarolina]

14. You are one lucky person if the cost of living in your area has been solidly frozen since

you were a "youngster working at a grocery store/car wash/fast food restaurant". I might also add that you are EXCEPTIONALLY lucky to live in an area where only "youngsters" fill such minimal wage jobs. and not any folks actually trying to support a family. Do you live in OZ?



Sounds like a wonderful place. Is it in America?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

18. Have you heard of inflation? nt

[Ferd Berfel]

20. If they aren't paying $15 The rest of us

are covering the shortfall with food stamps, Medicade, housing assistance, etc, etc ,etc

I make quite a bit less than $15 and I'd prefer that the company I work for pays for my work and not my neighbors.

Less than $15 is simply externalizing an expense so the billionaires that own the company I work for and keep more profits. Fuck 'em

Greed is a mental illness

[reformist2]

8. I'm an expert at parsing Clintonese, and her vague "we gotta do that" gives her weasel room to say

that she never said she's for a $15 federal wage, but that she's for SOME increases in the minimum wage everywhere.

So for example, she might argue that New York ought to get a $15 minimum, but Michigan should get only a $12 minimum. And Arizona, maybe only $10.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. Indeed, the parsing of the meaning of "that" will commence.

Meanwhile the responses from the campers are mostly deflection. But it is still early.

[Contrary1]

21. "Clintonese"

And if her poll numbers indicate it's a no sale...she can always rely on her old trusty standby word: "evolve".

[geek tragedy]

12. there's quite some editorializing from the CNN reporter there.

Pretty easy to interpret Clinton's statement as getting states to increase the minimum wage in a generic sense without pushing the same $ figure.