Notice how Clinton wins big diverse states and Sanders wins white states.

[RealAmericanDem]

Does not bode well for Sanders in New York and California.

New York will be HUGE for Sanders. If he can't win there by a good amount he can't win.

[PowerToThePeople]

1. The way I see the numbers

As long as he keeps it close in NY, the battle will end in California. If he wins big in NY, the battle still goes to Cali. The only way NY changes the contest is if it is a large Hillary win.

[Renew Deal]

3. Sanders dominates in the most conservative states

Oklahoma, Wyoming, Utah

[PowerToThePeople]

7. lol

uh huh.

I live in Washington.

[Renew Deal]

8. I forgot Alaska

[Ken Burch]

21. Which has a huge First Nations population.

And Hawaii, which is majority POC.

[Armstead]

39. Did you forget Michigan?

[RealAmericanDem]

10. Sate of Washington is a WHITE state.

Blacks 3.6%

Hispanics 6.3%

Asian 7.2%

[PowerToThePeople]

12. I wasn't responding to you

Washington is one of the most liberal (Blue) states.

I was responding to Renew Deal.

Thanks anyway.

[Renew Deal]

18. I didn't realize we were having a personal conversation.

[PowerToThePeople]

24. Maybe I do not understand how this whole indented thread thing works?

[brush]

44. A lot of people noticed Hillary wins the big, diverse states and Sanders wins the mostly white . . .

small states but didn't want to say it like the OP just did and risk getting hidden by the alerters and Sanders-dominated jury system.

What does that mean that he wins the mostly white states. Good question.

[reformist2]

11. That's not true at all: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Vermont....

[beam me up scottie]

13. Forget it, he's rolling...

[Renew Deal]

17. How does that make it not true?

[reformist2]

22. OK, how about Texas, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina....

My point is that there is absolutely NO correlation between how conservative a state is and how well Hillary or Bernie did.

There does seem to be a North/South correlation going on, which is worth exploring.

[Kittycat]

2. Hear that Washington state, you don't exist.

Sorry Hawaii.

Get lost Alaska.

#ClintonDiversity

[Kittycat]

49. "Hawaii has no black people" - WOW!!!

Education has failed you.

And since when is the amount of black population the only measure of a state's diversity? According to the 2010 census, Hawaii's white only (non-Hispanic) population is only 22.7%. They are the most diverse state in our union. Further, I think you owe the black population you so callously dismissed, an apology. Many of them have been identified as service men and women in Hawaii.

But please, keep insulting and discarding minorities because they don't meet your criteria. I believe there's a term for that.

Eta: measuring diversity isn't just measuring a demographic. So, in measuring diversity, Washington has actually ranked in the top 10 at least in the past 10 years for most diverse, along with Alaska.

[woolldog]

50. How white a population is, is not a measure of its diversity.

China has essentially no white population. That doesn't make China a diverse country.

[Kittycat]

51. It's not worth having a conversation with you if you aren't

Going to have an honest or factual one. You can't ignore minorities or states because you don't like Bernie. You can't ignore the measure of how diversity is determined either, because it doesn't fit your definition. There are many factors that play in to that. And saying there are no blacks in Hawaii was an ignorant statement. I'm done speaking with you.

[woolldog]

54. Sorry but using the % of whites in a states population

as the measure of diversity, as you are doing for Hawaii, is flawed. If you don't like that being pointed out, too bad.

[Thinkingabout]

4. In fact he has to win all the rest of the primaries by big margins to get the

Needed delegates.

[NurseJackie]

14. It's such an OBVIOUS mathematical fact. We can see it. Why can't Bernie's fans see it? (Weird, huh?)

They just can't accept the fact that Bernie will NOT be the nominee.

[DemocracyDirect]

28. Really?

Sorry we don't just roll over and play dead.

Maybe you should just wait and see what happens instead of making more enemies.

[NurseJackie]

31. Fantasy vs Reality ...

... reality wins!

Bernie will NEVER become the nominee. That's reality. ("Sorry.&quot

[DemocracyDirect]

32. Sorry Too

That's not reality, it's a bubble.

[NurseJackie]

33. Ha! :-D

[DemocracyDirect]

34. Haha

[Armstead]

41. Reality -- We will all be dead eventually. So don't bother with voting or anything.

When it comes to "reality" you might as well go all the way. You want to be so rough and tough and hard-headed in your tone? Ha!

Those foolish children who actually believe in trying to effect political change to make the US more responsive to the needs of everyone.....They should just go in a corner and suck their thumbs and read My Little Pony.

[Vinca]

5. You could also look at it another way.

Hillary is winning states we almost always lose (conservative states) in the general election and Bernie is winning states we win in the general election. She may end up the nominee thanks to those losing states, but it doesn't erase the fact she wasn't the first choice in the states we reliably win.

[Human101948]

6. Well, Hillary will lose the gerneral election if she can't get white votes...

Those whites are an important minority.

[RealAmericanDem]

9. Bill and Obama both LOST the white male vote.

[Human101948]

15. Hillary will lose a far greater percentage...

If Mrs. Clinton’s favorability numbers translate into voting behavior, she would be in a pretty deep hole: Her 26% favorable rating among white men is lower than the 35% share that Mr. Obama won in the 2012 election.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/22/can-hillary-clinton-underperform-barack-obama-with-white-voters-and-win/

[TeddyR]

25. Agreed

But if Trump is the nominee then Hills should be able to win. His favorability rating is even worse than Hills', which means it must be really bad. Surprised the Dem establishment couldn't find a nominee who wasn't so disliked. Biden would have been a much, much better option.

[DemocracyDirect]

29. I doubt that Trump will be the nominee.

We are concerned if Hillary wins the nomination.

[Fast Walker 52]

16. he won Hawaii handily, which is very non-white

[Bluenorthwest]

46. Hawaii is the only State in which white people are in the minority....

nt

[Nanjeanne]

19. Notice how Clinton supporters focus only on the math and not her policies

Or proposals.

[Barack_America]

30. Yes, yes I have.

They do this because many don't support her policies, just her. Makes no sense to me, but I'll let them work that out with their therapists.

If you want to have some fun though, post one of those "which candidate do you agree with quizzes" and watch them freak out over how far they have to tack right to get matched up with their girl.

Direct quote from the last thread, "this quiz has an obvious bias towards Sanders!"

[pdsimdars]

20. Notice how Clinton supporters seem to mistake talking points for reality?

There is no state more diverse than Hawaii, I grew up there and as a while male, I was the minority. Oops! Reality throw a wrench into your fact free talking point existence?

[Marrah_G]

23. Nope

[Barack_America]

26. I agree with you. He needs at least a 5-point win in NY.

And I think he's going to do it.

[Betty Karlson]

27. Hawaii is white? Washington is white?

tin ears and cognitive dissance are starting to annoy me greatly.

[jmg257]

36. Notice how B Clinton pissed off BLM? Notice how latinos are near 50/50?

Notice Sanders is going to the Vatican while Hillary is going to superrich fundraisers in SF? Notice the recent momentum and huge increase in attention Sanders is getting?


Tough call.


"The protesters shouted that "black youth are not super predators," taking issue with a phrase then-first lady Hillary Clinton used in a 1996 speech about violent crime committed by young people
He also defended Hillary Clinton's use of the phrase "super predators."
"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack, and sent them out in the streets to murder other African-American children,"


"A poll released Thursday shows Latino registered voters are relatively divided between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders as the New York primary looms.
Latinos voters were essentially divided 48 percent for Sanders and 47 percent for Clinton in the poll conducted March 30-April 3 by Public Religion Research Institute in partnership with The Atlantic. "

[Katashi_itto]

37. So she won Alaska...Hawaii...etc...i didnt realize!

I really need to listen to the Clinton narrative more it's like listening to Baghdad Bob....everything is fine

[hrmjustin]

38. Hillary will win here in NY by double digits.

Just this humble NYers opinion.

[NurseJackie]

42. A good reasonable REALITY BASED opinion ...

... you're setting a good example.

[hrmjustin]

43. .

[B Calm]

40. After Bill kicked black people to the curb and patted his bad cops on the back, I look

for the Hillary campaign to disintegrate.

[Bluenorthwest]

45. Boy are you making some assumptions that are not born out by fact......

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/00,36,06

Spend some time at the link, you can compare State to State, State to nation, city to city. All sorts of demographic information. Interesting tidbits: Which is 'whiter'? Illinois or Oklahoma? Illinois. Which States have white minority? Hawaii only. Who won Hawaii? Bernie. Who won Oklahoma? Bernie.

[MoonRiver]

47. Results of your jury service:

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Notice how Clinton wins big diverse states and Sanders wins white states.
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This is caged dogwhistle racism at its most shameful. Please stop this provacative nonsense!

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[dchill]

48. Totally baseless thread fail.

[Matt_in_STL]

52. Another thread on how the only vote that matters is the POC vote

Way to continue to discount and diminish the votes of anyone else. This could be reversed just as easily to ask why Hillary can't win the white vote. Ridiculous both ways.

[noretreatnosurrender]

53. Another Nod to Donald Trump at DU

You do know that Donald Trump tries to divide people by race don't you?