So, how is Sanders flying to Rome?

[lunamagica]

By private jet? Commercial flight?

When is he leaving?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Why do you care?

[JonLeibowitz]

3. Ding ding ding!

[BainsBane]

59. Because he's running for president of the United States

which includes all citizens, not just a few. The people do have a right to question elected officials, even ones who supporters claim they are God's chosen candidate. We are not yet living in a theocracy.

[Fawke Em]

66. Who pays for Hill's flights? To? Well, everywhere.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

70. And his method of transportation is relevant how?

Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

He can go there any way he wants; the only restriction is that he can't use campaign funds, which I'm sure he knows. So: Do you feel you, as a citizen, have a right to know which airline, flight number, seat reservation, departure and arrival times? The names of the pilots? Whether he eats all the Biscoff cookies? Will the answers to these questions affect your vote?

[Fawke Em]

97. I bet money that the Chinese or Russian knew top officials' travel plans

from Hillary's emails on her private, but very unsecure, server.

Maybe I should contact the very cool Secret Service tactical officer with Bernie's team whom I met in South Carolina and let him know how "concerned" these people are about his flight.

Ya know, this is starting to concern me. Maybe I should collect these "flight" threads and report them. Seems people are awfully "concerned."

[cwydro]

165. Oooh

[kristopher]

98. Why can't he use campaign funds? Don't tell me you fell for the spam?

geek tragedy
Bernie can't use campaign cash to travel to Rome. Uh oh.
See pages 53 and 67-70.
http://www.fec.gov/pdf/candgui.pdf

Trip to attend an explicitly non-political academic conference on Catholic theology, in a far away foreign country, is not a campaign event and thus can't be paid for with campaign funds. Campaign can't even pay for a cab to the airport.
Which means he has to fly commercial, which means no direct flight (last flight leaves before debate is over).
It may not be physically possible for him to attend the conference unless he takes an additional day off the trail to attend day 2.
Genius move.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&info=1&address=12511687572

Well, maybe not such a genius move on the part of that poster, since Bernie's invitation and supporting communications clearly spell out that his invitation is as a representative of a N. American Government to exchange ideas with representatives of certain S. American governments.

You see, page 55 from Geek's reference specifies that:

Campaign funds may be used to pay the costs of travel to an activity that is related to the campaign or to the candidate’s duties as a federal officeholder. (Note, however, that 2007 changes to the statute mandate specific conveyances and payments. See “Certain Air Travel” above and Chapter 10, Section 4 for more information.) Thus, the costs of travel for a candidate (and the candidate’s spouse and minor children) may be used to pay for travel to functions directly related to the campaign or those directly connected to the individual’s official responsibilities as a federal officeholder. 113.2(a) (1); see AO 2005-09.The regulations, however, prohibit the use of campaign funds for personal expenses collateral to travel—either campaign or of ceholder—unless personal funds are used to reimburse the committee. 113.1(g)(1)(ii)(C). See, for example,AOs 2002-05, 2000-37 and 1996-19. See also “Mixed Use” below for trips that involve both of cial/campaign and personal travel.

I can see how such an oversight might have happened though. After all, the passage was secretly buried under the odd title of "Travel Expenses". I mean, what moron would look there, eh?

[imagine2015]

110. I flew to Paris. And boy, did my arms hurt!

[beedle]

77. And she's running for president of the United States

again, that includes all citizens ... people do have a right to question elected officials ... blah, blah, blah, blah

PROVE IT --- DEMAND HILLARY RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS

but you won't, because you don't mean a fucking word of what you're spewing.

[Marr]

114. WHOAH, wait a minute. You're ok with Hillary keeping her speeches to Goldman private,

but Sanders needs to tell you his flight details?

This is starting to get really comedic.

[murielm99]

119. Yup.

He could add his tax returns, too. We would like to know. There is nothing comedic about it.

[Chezboo]

116. Maybe he'll look into it and let you know. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

141. People can multitask

Wouldnt you agree?

[dflprincess]

86. The sour grapes over the invitation is wearing thin

and they need a new source to fuel their hysteria.

But you knew that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

88. Don't worry; something else will come up.

They'll discover that Bernie has an unreturned library book from some time during the '80s.

[passiveporcupine]

133. The batteries must have run out on the laser pointer

Don't worry, Brock will take care of this right away.

Don't fret kitties, I mean kiddies, the red dot will be back soon.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

138. FBI says stop pointing LASERS at aircraft

satellites detected you...

[passiveporcupine]

140. Brock better be careful then

Cause he'll probably point it at Bernie's airplane when he's taking off for Rome.

[JanetLovesObama]

2. His Unicorn !

[notadmblnd]

82. No, not the unicorn. He's gonna fly on the wings of the sparrow

that landed on his podium. See, that's what the little birdie was there for. He was letting Senator Sanders know that his flight schedule had been finalized.

[Sanity Claws]

84. That is what I think too

The little sparrow will carry him on her back.

[RichVRichV]

129. That depends.

Is it an African or European sparrow?

[Codeine]

4. Transubstantiation. nt

[daleanime]

5. ......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. I don't think that would work.

Turning into a wafer won't get him to Rome. I think he will fly there supersonically on waves of Hillary's supporters' anger.

[boobooday]

60. Hahaha

A powerful force indeed.

[Surya Gayatri]

144. Mic drop! LOL!

[Luminous Animal]

7. A flock of little birds is going to carry him.

[northernsouthern]

83. How else?

v

[TheBlackAdder]

8. Perhaps he will turn into a bird? I just flew back from Rome and boy are my arms tired.

[NWCorona]

9. I think private and more than likely provided by the Vatican

Unless there's a restriction that doesn’t allow it. Regardless it won't be commercial

[mcar]

28. Provided by the Vatican?

Why?

[TheBlackAdder]

33. Because if it's a private jet they can ding him on his carbon footprint, only reason for 'concern.'

[mcar]

36. Who can ding him?

The Vatican? I'm confused.

[TheBlackAdder]

50. Trollish jerkoffs who are looking for some reason to complain about his trip.

[NWCorona]

58. Because they have the means to do so

Especially given the time constraints. The Vatican offers low cost charter flights.

[George II]

71. If the Pope himself flies commercially....

....why would they provide a private plane for St. Bernard?

[NWCorona]

89. The pope flies commercially "chartered" planes

[Surya Gayatri]

145. Because he's leading the "revolution" single-handedly. Even more VIP than Francis himself.

[Fawke Em]

10. Ahem... if he was invited in his official capacity as a U.S. Senator, he can request

a military flight.

Unless they are independently wealthy (Kennedy, Issa, Kerry, et al) they can't afford to fly privately, and unless they are on a rare international government mission, they are not eligible for military transport.

https://www.quora.com/Do-congressmen-and-senators-fly-commercial

Being invited to participate in a Vatican-sponsored PASS event is a "rare international government mission."

There.

Happy, now?

[Codeine]

16. I doubt attending a conference qualifies as a "rare international government mission". nt

[Fawke Em]

92. Why not?

[frylock]

117. Because I want an oompa loompa too, duddy!

[giftedgirl77]

29. Rare international government mission.

[Fawke Em]

64. If he's not going as a senator, then he's going as a candidate.

What are the rules on that?

Seems Hill can find ways to fly all over the place.

Do you want to break open that book of worms?

[boobooday]

78. It's not either or

He could be going as an advocate for the dispossessed. An expert and longtime activist on the topic he has been asked to address.

[Fawke Em]

94. OK. Fine. I'll start a Go Fund Me page, then.

This is the stupidest bunch of hoo-ha I've ever heard, especially given their candidate is so full of grift that she and Sarah Palin are the 2 and 1 definitions, respectively.

[BainsBane]

63. Sounds like you are advocating for the improper use of tax payer funds

He is not going in his capacity as a Senator since no other senators were invited. We were told he was invited because the Pope, God, or both have chosen him to be the next president of the United States. Therefore no federal funds or campaign dollars can be spent on the trip.

[Fawke Em]

65. Sounds like you don't understand what I said.

He's listed as both a senator and a candidate on the roster.

Either he's going as one or the other.

Take your pick.

[okasha]

101. He can't go as an official representative

of the govdrnment unless he is appointed to go by the government. In that case, the government would cover his expenses. He's going to have to travel as a private citizen and pick.up hos own tab on this little junket, since he's going on his own behalf.

[Surya Gayatri]

147. Yup, this was precisely the unspoken talking-point he was pushing in Friday's misleading MSM blitz:

"...the Pope, God, or both have chosen him to be the next president of the United States."

[thesquanderer]

156. re: "He is not going in his capacity as a Senator since no other senators were invited."

A Senator cannot participate in an event in his capacity as Senator unless other Senators are also invited? That's a new one.

I suspect that any time a Senator--OR a Presidential candidate--meets with foreign officials, it can be seen as part of the "business" of being a Senator or proably even a Presidential candidate.

[fighting-irish]

75. Yup, gives him access to the X-43 Scramjet

he could be in Italy in 30 minutes, speak at the conference, the back in the US in 30 minutes, and resume campaigning.

Not that he wants to waste millions of taxpayers dollars doing that.

[neverforget]

11. On the tears of Hillary supporters. Nt

[840high]

25. .+1

[Jeffersons Ghost]

137. 01-.45=10101=vip

all THAT equals an FBI investigation [or D.O.J. this Chinese satellite puppets]...

[Agschmid]

30. Lol.

[CharlotteVale]

41. ....

[HillareeeHillaraah]

46. Happy Tears, we're happy he's leaving in the middle of primary

[CharlotteVale]

87. Then why are so many of you so obsessed with how he's doing it?

[HillareeeHillaraah]

90. Because it's fun. You folks get so worked up over it.

[frylock]

159. ..

[CoffeeCat]

131. Because it is epic and incredibly wonderful

that Bernie was invited to participate in this conference.

It is quite an honor and some incredible validation of Bernie's expertise and wisdom on income inequality.

Clinton supporters spend so much time directing everyone into the tall weeds, in an attempt to steer the conversation from how amazing this situation really is--and into the ditch.

I say we don't even respond to their poo any more.

They are OCD about this issue. They are boors.

[whistler162]

12. He isn't he is walking

using the waterwings he got for Christmas.

[thesquanderer]

154. He needs waterwings in order to walk on water? Lame. (n.t)

[mak3cats]

13. A portkey... (eom)

[Lucinda]

38. Definiely the most efficent way!

[karynnj]

14. In a chariot pulled by flying angels sent by the Cardinal who invited him

or most likely a private jet.

[winter is coming]

15. Scotty's going to beam him there. n/t

[lunamagica]

68. Good one!

[winter is coming]

113. "Cap'n, the weathervane is breaking up! I canna hold it together!"

"Increase to Warp "Vetting", Mr. Scott."

[Ken Burch]

17. It doesn't matter...there is no issue here.

Give it a rest.

[B Calm]

18. .

[sadoldgirl]

19. Why? Did you get invited too and want to hitch a ride?

WOW,I did not know that you are so important.

[winter is coming]

23. Now we know what become of Hillary's lost invitation. n/t

[oldandhappy]

20. the same as he always does

commercial

[Segami]

21. Instead of stirring the shit pot, try applying your efforts

in trying to get the Queen to release her damn TRANSCRIPTS!.....

[LAS14]

37. Correction.... the saint should release TAX RETURNS! nt

[ronnykmarshall]

22. On the wings of angels ...

[GreenPartyVoter]

27. Good one!

[Vattel]

48. oops, I just posted the same thing below. Time to self-delete, lol.

And may I say that you have a brilliant sense of humor.

[ronnykmarshall]

105. xoxoxox

as someone that grew up in Bakersfield ... I love your pic of Mr. Chavez.

[Puglover]

24. Really?

Pitiful.

[morningfog]

26. He leaves just after kicking Hillary's ass in the debate and returns

just before kicking her ass in the NY results.

He'll fly on Eight In A Row Air.

[ronnykmarshall]

32. Bless

[CentralMass]

49. Actually, Steven Tyler is a Bernie Sanders supporter.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/10/aerosmith-steven-tyler-donald-trump

[Fawke Em]

95. Doncha love it when that happens?

Some Hillary supporter on Twitter told me she'd rather watch Bizarre Foods than listen to a(nother) Bernie victory speech. I delighted in telling her that the host, Andrew Zimmern, is a Bernie fan.

[CentralMass]

100. Yes.

[ronnykmarshall]

103. Oh jeeze .... yous kids sure got me on that!!

OOOF. Good catch kids!!!

[Fawke Em]

125. I'm 46. God, I wish I was a kid, but then I wouldn't have my kids.

[fighting-irish]

104. Considering San Francisco is about to turn out all in for Bernie..

I think Bernie stands an excellent chance of winning California.

[LAS14]

40. With a Secret Service entourage????

Your understanding of campaign realities matches Sanders' understanding of the world.

[CentralMass]

74. There is absolutely nothing but positives about the Senators trip to Rome. The only controversy is

the unhealthy obsession Hillary'supporters have about it.
Keep knocking yourself out.

[passiveporcupine]

134. But but but

Hillary wasn't invited.

[rbrnmw]

31. He is walking on Holy Water

[CentralMass]

52. Great band..

[tirebiter]

34. It really makes no difference

Could be a SpaceX Falcon 9 for all I care

[polly7]

35. Private.

Whenever he wants to go.

[CentralMass]

39. Your obsession with this is concerning.

[lunamagica]

72. My obsession? You must have me confused with someone else...

This is my first post on the issue.

Regardless, thanks for your concern.

[Armstead]

118. Just asking once us a somewhat strange concern

Gee the candidates fly all over the place every day.

Is this trip especially neferious?

[lunamagica]

121. Like I said, thanks for your concern

[passiveporcupine]

136. Maybe you should have posted this in the Hillary group

Where you wouldn't get any negative feedback.

[azmom]

42. Don't worry. God will find a way.

He always does.

[lunamagica]

76. I'm not worried. I'm curious

but the tone of these responses? You'd think I've insulted Sanders in the worst way...

[Turn CO Blue]

43. The TARDIS. He's really one of the iterations of Dr. Who. But, but keep it on the down-low plz. nt

[morningfog]

44. Air Force One, didn't you hear?

[rurallib]

45. Comrade Bernie will be flown to the Vatican by the

People's Airline of Communist Russia where he always secretly vacations every year.

do i need the thingy?

[noiretextatique]

57. No

[xloadiex]

51. A chattering of doves n/t

[RandySF]

53. And is he using taxpayer money?

[KingFlorez]

54. First class

[peace13]

55. At least he won't complain about fake sniper fire and...

...degrade the troops that try to keep him safe. He has a long way to fall to beat that!

[George II]

56. You know, there was never a thought of him going to Rome until that little birdie....

...landed on his podium.

Perhaps they came to a deal for transportation?

[polly7]

67. By George, you might have a point there ...

[lunamagica]

91. So that's what the birdie was all about

[LuvLoogie]

61. Not flying, but riding on the backs of Democrats....

&nohtml5=False

[revbones]

62. This the new talking point? Already seeing multiple threads. Pretty weak sauce indeed. nt

[fighting-irish]

69. Nope. He's got access to the s00persekrit instant transportation device.

"Mr. Scott, Energize"

[cyberswede]

73. This was discussed to death yesterday. Try to keep up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511687572

[greatauntoftriplets]

79. He's leaving after the last direct flight has left New York.

Maybe President Obama will call off any travel plans he has for that time and lend him Air Force One.

[Kittycat]

80. Has Bill Clinton Apologized yet?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

81. You know, assuming he doesn't teleport,

he could teleconference. It's simple, inexpensive and convenient. It would be nice if he could be there in person but I bet they'd be happy to have him participate by teleconferencing if he had to. And that way all you kvetchers could STFU about the damn thing.

[AgerolanAmerican]

85. African swallow

just listen for the coconuts

[CentralMass]

93. Don't you mean European ?.. African swallow it was...

[beedle]

96. Paper Airplanes made from Hillary's Wall St. Transcripts

[beam me up scottie]

99. He's buying his own Lear Jet with the money he stole from orphans and widows.

It's also why he can't release his tax returns, he's terrified that everyone will know about his investments in blood diamonds and black market organ trading.

It's a seeeeeeecret, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[silvershadow]

102. Probably in the most nefarious, illegal way possible...like he always does.

[snowy owl]

106. Why? You want to meet him at the airport?

[AgingAmerican]

107. Yay!

More petty nothingness for the transparency bunch to go apoplectic over!

Hurray!

[SHRED]

108. Why teleportation of course.

[rbrnmw]

109. Magic Carpet Ride

&nohtml5=False

[lunamagica]

111. Hey, could happen

[itsrobert]

112. Will the inflight movie be "Spotlight"? nt

n/t

[frylock]

115. He's flying on the taxpayer's dime.

Posted from my Obamaphone.

[pat_k]

120. Probably Alitalia

Gee Wiz. Get a grip. What does it matter to you what his travel plans are?

As others have pointed out, he wouldn't have accepted if he hadn't nailed down travel plans.

Just speculating, but I imagine he's just attending on Sat. Alitalia has the nonstop flights that would get him to Rome 6:45AM Sat and get him back to NY 1:25PM Sun. It would run about $2000 round trip.

And I think he could swing the $2000 out of personal funds.

[PowerToThePeople]

122. On a frickin' unicorn, duh.

Don't you know he breeds them?

[ContinentalOp]

123. How will he even afford it with his ascetic lifestyle?

After all they only make around $200,000 a year and take $56,000 in deductions!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

124. if you want to know, I suggest you quit wasting your time here and go find out.

Dos this thread represent your typical level of discourse?

[delrem]

126. God almighty will give him wings!

You will be appalled! Horrified to find that you were wrong and that GOD HIMSELF gave a COMMIE wings to fly to the Vatican, to lay down the rules for all humankind to follow for eternity.

[AzDar]

127. He's going to ---------- ( -- = Obscured by White Noise Machine)

[polly7]

130. LOL!

[Hiraeth]

128. If Benie needs them, The Birds will be there.

[lasttrip]

132. Personal travel..

Peace.
LT

[Avalux]

135. Tardis. n/t

[jillan]

139. Flying Unicorns.

[shenmue]

142. Hee hee

[Surya Gayatri]

143. Inquiring minds are fascinated to know how this ground-breaking journey will unfold...

Is the Secret Service scoping out Sanders' quarters in the Vatican (Pope Francis' house) as we speak?

[Warren DeMontague]

146. On a misogyny-fueled bernieBroeing 747?

[quaker bill]

148. Red Bull - "it gives you wings"

[Sancho]

149. Probably flying in one of those F35s that he helped buy...

...don't touch the red button!!

Oops - sorry about that!

[B Calm]

150. Did you know Bill Clinton pointed his finger at the BLM movement and kicked

black people to the curb?

[Renew Deal]

151. On a unicorn

Of course

[dr60omg]

152. He is paying for it himself

Do you have an issue with that. If you were invited would you fly in a plane? Or would you use your arms and flap them really hard

[Nanjeanne]

153. I heard ...

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[Sky Masterson]

155. Probably in an uncomfortable airplane seat where he will most likely sleep

How will Hillary get there when the last time she tried there was a locust plague and the rivers ran red,the theme from the Exorcist echoed wherever she wandered, All vegetation withered and died and black devil dogs appeared as she floated by.
Hug me.

[Umbral18]

157. In Coach. n/t

[riderinthestorm]

160. One of the Hillary supporters here is so obsessed they researched commercial flights

Discovered they all depart before the debate ends and then went batshit at the notion Bernie might take a private plane!

The obsession level with this is nuts. SMH

Welcome to DU!

[George II]

158. Maybe:

[hobbit709]

161. taking the magic bus

[Lizzie Poppet]

162. He's not flying, he's sailing...

...on a wave of Hillary supporters' bitter tears.

[silenttigersong]

163. I know this might be off subject

Speaking of flying,doesn't it bother any Hillary supporters that ,Bill gets free rides from the likes of Jeffery Epstein?Who claims, Bill Clinton owes him a favor?

[Gothmog]

164. Interesting question

[Ken Burch]

166. dead issue. move on.

Bernie did not lie and there's nothing to pretend to be outraged about.