2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe charade of neutrality that 538 exuded has been exposed.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-calling-hillary-clinton-unqualified-smacks-of-sexism/Originally they put up this article and the headline was "Why calling Hillary Clinton Unqualified Smacks of Sexism"
They went and stealth edited the article to help better hide their bias by changing the headline to "Thinking Theyre Unqualified Is A Big Reason More Women Dont Run For Office"
Unfortunately for them the original headline still shows in the URL. It looks pretty clear that they regurgitate Clinton's talking point cheat sheet just like any other MSM source.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)this is really who Markos Moulitsas was all along. He just used to be better at hiding it.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Lots of people have had to expose themselves during this primary and will continue to do so until it is over.
We should never forget where these peoples' loyalties lie. They will try to make amends if Clinton gets the nomination. But, they have already exposed themselves as tools of the status quo and as obstacles to any true and very much needed reforms.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if David Brock was paying them.
HughLefty1
(231 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Since I do speak to office holders and those running for office locally.
In the case of Clinton she has had every possible advantage possible. Some that male counterparts would love.
This is an actual issue, and not just limited to her. Though in her case, advantagesI have staid away from writing, let alone working on a piece on this. But some conversations as to why women don't run include other factors not just lady parts.. A local story from 2012 was particularly egregious and involved the state party. I might get more data and work on this.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)But I think it is unfair to characterize what Bernie said as sexist and to use his speech as a leader into this discussion doesn't seem right. By using it as the leader into such a topic it is planting the seed of sexism on Bernie yet again, which the media and Clinton seems so apt to want to do.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Just wanted to emphasize we do have an issue. In her case she has advantages that in my mind counter the sexism. Let's start with fundraising and name recognition. Most women running for office have a heck of a time with the familiar name, or raising money. And the party still has a hell of an issue supporting women (and it is both parties by the way).
delrem
(9,688 posts)Her campaign is just using it, like they use race, to generate controversy and division.
What has Hillary actually done. Even back in '08 she was pretending to having had this incredible "experience". The claim already was that she had decades of fighting in the trenches, with the scars to prove it. As compared to that upstart Obama. Well, she said it often enough. So what has she actually done?
In fact she runs from telling about a lot of her history, her history of backing war, for example.
Her history of backing free trade agreements immediately after being elected on a platform explaining that she opposed them.
So exactly how does advancing her career advantage the general cause of women?
From what I gather, there are a lot of esp. younger feminists who think Hillary is dead wrong in her compartmentalized concept, and who approach matters in ways that are totally alien to Hillary Clinton.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Most office seekers don't have those advantages.
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)I would argue with their cultural interpretation of the event but their math is sound.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's like Krugman, or Capehart, or Skinner or Kos, how obvious does it have to be?
This is post-citizens_united $billions$ and for a lot of people who took the cash, the scale and opportunity of the payouts was like getting hit by a truck.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)I guess they thought Bernie would "go away" after the first couple of primaries, but now that he's hanging around and surging, they've turned up the propaganda dial to full blast. Thank God for the internet and social media. I'm sure it won't be long before it gets censored, if it's not already.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The internet changed the dynamic. It is accelerating the changes in the political system
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...I ain't going to get bothered by it.