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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:35 PM Apr 2016

What kind of campaign pulls this kind of stunt?

Seriously, what kind of campaign, would send it's candidate to Italy right after a debate and before the voting to attend a 30 person closed conference of academics where he may not even get a chance to speak and if he does speak, will asked to expound upon a 25 year old papal encyclical about which he probably knows nothing and apply it to the contemporary scene?


The Vatican conference on Centesimus annus will be a small gathering of roughly 30 scholars. It is not open to the public. Pope Francis is not expected to attend, though Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, head of the pope's Council of Cardinals, will open speak at the conference's opening.

The remainder of the conference will situate around the presentation of five papers. Presenters include Sachs and each of the Latin American presidents, in addition to Fr. Bryan Hehir, of the Harvard University John F. Kennedy School of Government, and José Casanova, senior fellow at the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace and World Affairs, in Washington, D.C.

Asked if Sanders might address the conference as well, Sanchez said, "I think that he needs to have the same possibility as the other political leaders." He clarified that it would have to be within the context of Centesimus annus.


http://ncronline.org/news/politics/bernie-sanders-set-attend-vatican-conference-john-paul-ii-encyclical



Maybe they were hoping for an audience or at least a photo-op with the Pope?


Heads should roll, but they probably won't. I doubt they know how ridiculous they are looking.
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What kind of campaign pulls this kind of stunt? (Original Post) kennetha Apr 2016 OP
... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #1
All these crazy Vatican OP's. Is anyone going to bring these people to heel? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #13
Do you think Bernie will claim he landed in Rome under sniper fire? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #17
Yes, I do. And he'll say he was using civil rights icons as human shields. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #22
He's just on a layover on his way to Russia for a second honeymoon. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24
someone who has the undying love of people roguevalley Apr 2016 #38
Love it! NWCorona Apr 2016 #56
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #2
Does this sting as bad as Hillarys delegates not showing up in Nevada? Autumn Apr 2016 #3
Good one! bjo59 Apr 2016 #57
I find it curious you're not jumping for joy about how he's LOST THE PRIMARY over this. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #4
Really beedle Apr 2016 #47
Yeah, what's with the faux concern for a campaign you'd like to see flounder? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #53
That is just so lame. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #5
Your sudden breathless concern for the Sanders campaign... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #6
An unconventional one? Fumesucker Apr 2016 #7
Italy? Why, that's a long way and will take a long time....if he goes by Kayak. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #8
What kind of person pulls this kind of stunt? Kalidurga Apr 2016 #9
Good post, Kalidurga. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #14
Well stated TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #18
Excellent post! jillan Apr 2016 #19
^== This. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #20
!!! Agree you say it here! Truth. RiverLover Apr 2016 #31
.that^ 840high Apr 2016 #32
Excellent post, Kalidurga. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #34
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #10
Take a deep breath and count to 10 and just let it go... You look very sad here. GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #11
They look far less ridiculous frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #12
Wow, this thing really has some people shitting their pantsuits. QC Apr 2016 #15
LOL! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #26
It's like somebody brought a bad batch of bath salts QC Apr 2016 #42
That would explain a lot. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #44
"Pope Francis is not expected to attend" TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #16
Ok, your time is up, head back to Camp Bansalot. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #21
I am nice, that digging is back breaking nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #23
He's going to need a bigger excavator Fumesucker Apr 2016 #48
Jealous much? -nt- chascarrillo Apr 2016 #25
Of course it would be so much better to hold the fundraiser bbq at Terry McAuliffe's house Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #27
why do you care? why does anyone? wendylaroux Apr 2016 #28
Feel the Bern, Baby. PeoViejo Apr 2016 #29
Camp Clinton seems to be very worried about Bernie being asked to the Vatican 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #30
.+1 840high Apr 2016 #35
Seems to me he's using his platform to do some good for the world... HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #33
It's a wonderful opportunity for him personally. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #36
Well, first of all....... Amaril Apr 2016 #37
I hear white noise machines are optional roguevalley Apr 2016 #40
The kind of campaign that is run by the actual candidate, as opposed to super pacs DebDoo Apr 2016 #39
Well it will give him good inspiration for his work in the Senate, so I'm all for it! Lucinda Apr 2016 #41
Sorry, no legs ... GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #43
" send it is candidate . . ." SheilaT Apr 2016 #45
You seem strangely perturbed that a candidate you're not supporting is doing winter is coming Apr 2016 #46
The event had a date. This isn't complicated (for most). morningfog Apr 2016 #49
Income inequality is such a new concept for Sanders, this obviously is just a photo op ... slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #50
Seriously - Bermnie is a grown man. I think he can make his own decisions. jmg257 Apr 2016 #51
Exactly! Why doesn't he hobnob with celebrities and receive legal bribes, instead? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #52
Holy shit are you people for real? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #54
Congratulations you just made my ignore list! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #55
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
22. Yes, I do. And he'll say he was using civil rights icons as human shields.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

And the map that we use to discuss his heroics will look strangely like the city of Moscow (remember that one?).

Response to kennetha (Original post)

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
47. Really
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:12 PM
Apr 2016

Obviously this move, one that "cynically" takes a wildly popular US politician, almost a folk hero, for better or worst, now known the world over; Puts him in at a (no longer obscure since it's a candidate with a come-back story in the 2016 presidential elections) conference, that potentially influences billions of Catholics and hundreds of millions of Americans on the issues of economic and environmental justice .... of course this will be a disaster for Bernie ... you're right, the OP has it nailed. This will cost Bernie at LEAST 7 bagillon delegates.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
6. Your sudden breathless concern for the Sanders campaign...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:38 PM
Apr 2016

...is noted, but hardly comes across as sincere.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. Italy? Why, that's a long way and will take a long time....if he goes by Kayak.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:39 PM
Apr 2016


Your concern for Bernie's schedule is duly noted. And, commented above these words.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. What kind of person pulls this kind of stunt?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:39 PM
Apr 2016

A Presidential candidate has an opportunity to go to the Vatican and talk about the issues of poverty and social justice and he gets attacked by liberals for it. What kind of liberal pulls this kind of stunt? Is it the kind that engages in a war against the poor. Or the kind that thinks children should be seen not heard and for damn sure shouldn't vote in their own interests? Or is it the kind that wants to forget Bill Clinton told BLM that they don't care about people being murdered in their own communities?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
31. !!! Agree you say it here! Truth.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

We're clearly fighting conservatives, liberals don't think like they do. They can't hide their true colors along the red spectrum.

Response to kennetha (Original post)

frustrated_lefty

(2,774 posts)
12. They look far less ridiculous
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

than Clintonistas bouncing around like a ping pong ball looking for some reason, ANY reason to justify their poutrage.

QC

(26,371 posts)
15. Wow, this thing really has some people shitting their pantsuits.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:42 PM
Apr 2016

It was cute at first but now it's looking downright loony.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. I am nice, that digging is back breaking
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

here.



Trust me, will be far less bad on the back and likely prevent a trip to the ER

Nanjeanne

(4,981 posts)
27. Of course it would be so much better to hold the fundraiser bbq at Terry McAuliffe's house
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

But Sanders obviously has other priorities.

So Clinton people should be thrilled Sanders is out of the country talking with religious, economics and humanitian advocates.

It's also a scoring for Sanders I'm sure. I'm especially thrilled that Dr. Jeffrey Sachs will be there. He is a huge supporter of Sanders.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
30. Camp Clinton seems to be very worried about Bernie being asked to the Vatican
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

Add that to Bill's big fuck up yesterday, and it appears that camp Clinton is freaking the fuck out.

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
36. It's a wonderful opportunity for him personally.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:59 PM
Apr 2016

Not everything has to be about the campaign. But there is a side benefit that he may end up with some positive publicity here that offsets his missing a day of local campaigning.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
37. Well, first of all.......
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:03 PM
Apr 2016

.....the "campaign" isn't sending him. He was invited to participate in a discussion which may help shape the futures of countless people worldwide

Second, the topics which will be discussed are of great importance to him (and should be of importance to all Democrats), so, yes, he likely sees this as a remarkable honor AND an opportunity to do tangible good in the world, so, no, he won't be passing it up because YOU think it's ridiculous.

You see, Bernie isn't a cardboard cutout -- he is the real deal, and he actually walks the walk (as opposed to just talking the talk). He cares about people -- ALL people, not just the ones who can cough up $300k for a dinner with the rich and fabulous -- and their futures. Of course he's going, and we should ALL be proud & supportive.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
39. The kind of campaign that is run by the actual candidate, as opposed to super pacs
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:11 PM
Apr 2016

I understand your confusion though, you're not used to cadidates sticking to their ideals. Or making their own decisions.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
41. Well it will give him good inspiration for his work in the Senate, so I'm all for it!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

I think they actually realize the math is what it is, but he is going to let it play out.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
45. " send it is candidate . . ."
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:53 PM
Apr 2016

Not sure I quite understand what you mean.

it's means it is.

Possibly you mean its, the possessive form.

Showing your ignorance in more than one way.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
46. You seem strangely perturbed that a candidate you're not supporting is doing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

something you think might be bad for his campaign.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
50. Income inequality is such a new concept for Sanders, this obviously is just a photo op ...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

from the Sanders campaign.



jmg257

(11,996 posts)
51. Seriously - Bermnie is a grown man. I think he can make his own decisions.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

Someone looks ridiculous around here, but it ain't Bernie.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
52. Exactly! Why doesn't he hobnob with celebrities and receive legal bribes, instead?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:50 PM
Apr 2016

Like a real politician would do...?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
55. Congratulations you just made my ignore list!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016

Only people who make really asinine posts make receive that honor.

You don't know how petty and ridiculous you are looking.

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