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Africa is a place where black lives matter! (Original Post) grasswire Apr 2016 OP
What did that even mean? Fairgo Apr 2016 #1
Yes, I think he's a real liability for the campaign.. grasswire Apr 2016 #2
I think he did today NWCorona Apr 2016 #3
PUI. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #4
He must have been trying to make his wife's "all lives matter" not seem so bad in comparison jfern Apr 2016 #5
Another distortion by desperate Bernie supporters Onlooker Apr 2016 #6
+1 For EXPOSING the OP distortion of facts. oasis Apr 2016 #7
How on earth is that a "distortion"? chascarrillo Apr 2016 #11
Attributed quotes must be exact quotes tabasco Apr 2016 #14
The truth is that the statements are equal and there were no quotes. chascarrillo Apr 2016 #17
Ummm, no. tabasco Apr 2016 #18
The colon functions as an "is", the clauses around the "is" were swapped. chascarrillo Apr 2016 #20
Sorry, friend. There are rules about attributing quotes for a reason. tabasco Apr 2016 #23
Bill Clinton is distorting the reason why he was being protested in the first place Major Nikon Apr 2016 #13
He's totally lost it jfern Apr 2016 #8
In the context he said it... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #9
Results... Major Nikon Apr 2016 #10
This is nonsense Onlooker Apr 2016 #15
"... a place where black lives matter: Africa" means the same damn thing. chascarrillo Apr 2016 #19
Kinda strange sometimes the things people pick to be outraged over Major Nikon Apr 2016 #21
DU is a place where UNDISTORTED FACTS matter. oasis Apr 2016 #12
I still like "hopped up on crack" to explain criminality in the black community Prism Apr 2016 #16
I'm logging off to read the Hillary Group FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #22

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
1. What did that even mean?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

I think he's lost his edge. He used to be so good at the artifice. Is that the soft racism of the southern liberal male bleeding through? You know, the kind that reminisces about the days when the future leader of the free world might have been your porter? Reminds me of the less occult misogyny that somehow thinks getting serviced in the oval office by an intern is a good idea. When you put his peccadillos together they paint a very creepy portrait.

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
6. Another distortion by desperate Bernie supporters
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

In the full quote, Clinton is merely talking about his wife's work in Africa. The OPs distortion of the quote comes directly from the conservative website Breitbart, but even they have the decency to provide the full context.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/07/bill-clinton-philadelphia-africa-place-black-lives-matter/

I’ll tell you another story about a place where Black Lives Matter: Africa,” Clinton said.

“The other day, I started my day with a picture that was sent to me on my iPad of a little guy running a store—he wasn’t very tall—in Tanzania in Dar es Salaam. You know what his store said? All it was was little crafts. It said ‘The Hillary Clinton’ store. Now why did he say that? Because the first thing that she did as Secretary of State was triple the number of people in Africa whose lives we were saving from AIDS by going to all low-cost price drugs, the same thing she wants to do for the American people if we give her a chance.”

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
11. How on earth is that a "distortion"?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:11 PM
Apr 2016

"Africa is a place where black lives matter."

... is completely congruous to....

"a place where Black Lives Matter: Africa"

You should check out Twitter and understand what the problem is with Bill's statement.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
14. Attributed quotes must be exact quotes
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

or they are distortions and lies.

FYI - I'm a Sanders supporter, but my loyalty is to the TRUTH.

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
17. The truth is that the statements are equal and there were no quotes.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

It's a paraphrase that means exactly what the exact quote states. Again: "Africa is a place where black lives matter" means the exact same thing as "a place where black lives matter: Africa". Absolutely nothing was distorted.

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
20. The colon functions as an "is", the clauses around the "is" were swapped.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

It's like saying:

"2 + 2 = 4"

when someone says

"4 = 2 + 2".

Or:

"An apple is a piece of fruit."

"A piece of fruit: an apple."

"A hammer is a tool."

"A tool: a hammer."

"English is a difficult language."

"A difficult language: English."

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
23. Sorry, friend. There are rules about attributing quotes for a reason.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

Your little exercise in futility there just shows that you need to get educated on integrity, ethics,and rules of writing and reporting.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
8. He's totally lost it
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

I assume everyone who was giving Bernie shit 8 months ago for not perfectly responding to a BLM protest will explode in outrage right now?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Results...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:08 PM
Apr 2016

On Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:02 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Africa is a place where black lives matter!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511674808

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a complete distortion of the context and the quote and the distortion is lifted directly from a right wing website (which also at least has the courtesy of providing the full quote)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/07/bill-clinton-philadelphia-africa-place-black-lives-matter/

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:07 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Posting a grossly distorted OP is completely inappropriate and using a rabid right wing source to do it is way over the top and deliberately disruptive. This post meets all the criteria for hiding it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Another right wing source from another Sanders supporters.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The actual quote may be found in a number of places which is...“I’ll tell you another story about a place where black lives matter: Africa.” The OP is not a distortion and if you think context needs to be added, then you mistakenly pushed the alert button instead of the reply button.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Not an exact quote. Therefore a distortion (lie).
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I don't see a TOS violation.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
15. This is nonsense
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

The OP did not even use an actual quote by Clinton. He used a headline from the right-wing Breitbart website, which intentionally modified what Clinton said and lifted it out of context to create a full distortion.

I think I'll go to American Thinker and post one of their articles about Bernie and see if the mods leave that up.

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
19. "... a place where black lives matter: Africa" means the same damn thing.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

And the context is a problem. He was trying to divert from his and Hillary's push for mass incarceration of African-Americans and welfare reform by saying "hey, but we did great things for black folks in Africa!"* That is messed up to no end.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
21. Kinda strange sometimes the things people pick to be outraged over
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

Africa is a place where black lives matter! is a distortion of...

"I'll tell you another story about a place where black lives matter: Africa"

But 1 million black lives warehoused by Clinton as a result of his mandatory sentencing law is worth ignoring.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
16. I still like "hopped up on crack" to explain criminality in the black community
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

He still thinks it's 1994.

If he'd at least called white criminals methy, it could've slid. But, newp.

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