2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders called Hillary Clinton ‘unqualified’ to be president — and blew up his own campaign
This, of course, is laughable aimed as it is at a candidate who has garnered more than 2.4 million more votes than her rival, but also coming from a campaign that has given zero, nada, nothing, bupkis, zilch to down-ticket Democratic candidates for their own campaigns while Clinton has kicked in close to $30 million. In fact Sanders who pulled in a cool $44 million in March admitted that he chose to run as a Democrat for the money.
To run as an independent, you need you could be a billionaire, Sanders explained If youre a billionaire, you can do that. Im not a billionaire. So the structure of American politics today is such that I thought the right ethic was to run within the Democratic Party.
It wouldnt be surprising if those superdelegate Democratic officeholders who are getting stiffed by Bernie already look at him as some random guy who bummed a ride in their car for the drive from Vermont to Orlando to see Phish but adamantly refuses to come up with ass, gas or grass.
Ask your parents about that one, kids.
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If only someone in the Sanders campaign had actually taken a second to read the transcript where Clinton not only said no such thing, but went out of her way to avoid saying it before revving Bernie up before a speech in Philadelphia (video below).
Then he probably would not have said the following:
Now the other day, I think, Secretary Clinton appeared to be getting a little bit nervous, and she has been saying lately that she thinks that I am, quote-unquote not qualified to be president, Sanders told the crowd at Temple University. Well let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton, I dont believe that she is qualified if she is through her Super PAC taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. I dont think that you are qualified if you get 15 million dollars from Wall Street through your Super PAC. I dont think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in Iraq. I dont think you are qualified if youve supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement, which has cost us millions of decent paying jobs.
These may be reasons to not vote for Clinton, but they are hardly evidence of a lack of qualifications. In fact, with the exception of the Iraq vote in the case of Obama, what he accused Clinton of could also be applied to Obama, Joe Biden and John Kerry.
So, basically, the only person qualified to be the Democratic nominee for president is the guy whos not a Democrat.
Okay, then.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/bernie-sanders-called-hillary-clinton-unqualified-to-be-president-and-blew-up-his-own-campaign/
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Yes I am an old fart
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I'm so confused....
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)She would not make a global, personal judgment that he wasn't qualified. Instead, she focused on the specifics of the issues and how he addressed them.
But Bernie blew his top when he saw the headlines and he took the bait, hook, line, and sinker.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)For me? I also believe she is unqualified based on her record. She has been wrong too often and she will only nibble around the edges, of the edges.
I agree with the President when he said in his ad in 2008, she will say anything and change nothing.
Her email screw up, she herself said she made a bad decision, it's just one of too many that are serious.
We are all 'qualified' as U.S. citizens to be the President.
In the end, both of these candidates have long records. When you look, from the foundation to the votes, the corruption and the baggage, I think it's sad the Clinton's are putting the country through more of their antics. America has been good to them, and I don't think they were really good for America. For me, her record disqualifies her. I said it before Bernie. Flame away.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Even though the media tried all it could to make it something.
Hillary even backed down.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Let's see how the voters feel about it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the "ass, gas or grass" line should be a hint
xocet
(3,871 posts)Of course, she is a fully qualified politician - just not a leader - see her vote regarding the War in Iraq....
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)It's hurting her. Bernie has been decent but don't think for one moment he does not have a right to defend himself against all of her lies. Auto bailout? I could go on and on. She's acting out for all to see the real Hillary.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)knowledgeable than a woman, try to dismiss that same woman as unqualified, they know what time it is.
Bernie picked a bad time to reveal himself as a tone deaf BernieBro.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/07/mccaskill_calling_hillary_clinton_not_qualified_is_like_fingernails_on_a_black_board_to_many_women.html
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)who can't even give coherent answers on his pet issue once he can't hide behind applause lines and talking points.
"All of them, Katie."
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)She's anti peace. She's fiscally conservative and bad for America.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)maybe you could turn them into memes.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)normalization deal, and the global warming agreements.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Iraq war
Panama Papers
Private e-mail servers
Goldman Sac's
Bernie has done his homework. She thinks she knows everything so she doesn't do hers.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Just depressing, too.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)She's the toughest person ever, but at the same time the victim. The shit gets old, she's a staunch corporatist, neocon who's in this race for herself. This is why she never says we, and has the #ImWithHer. It's all about Hillary.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)He's going to blow it up till he wins in NY.
Protalker
(418 posts)With his agenda if serious he would be working hard to get congressional support elected. His answer appears that it will be Les Mis manning the barricades in the street. Give me a break.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)IT's amazing how much Sanders and Trump demonstrate the validity of the assertion - "The more extreme people are in their positions, the more alike they become - despite the differences in their stated doctrines."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to admit.
Protalker
(418 posts)If Bernie doesn't make it Trump is her man.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Did any of his proxies vote for Al Gore in 2000?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)^snip^
Hillary Clinton Responds To Bernie: 'I'll Take Sanders Over Trump Or Cruz Any Time'
"Look, I didnt I dont know why hes saying that. But I will take Bernie Sanders over Donald Trump or Ted Cruz any time. So lets keep our eye on whats really at stake in this election," Clinton reminded.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/04/jeff-weaver-not-done
^snip^
Well, I think if you look at her record, if you look at her campaign, you know, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from Wall Street and other special interests. Shes really made a deal with the devil, and we all know the devil wants his money in the end.
So thats the kind of campaign shes running. She supported the terrible trade deals which have devastated American manufacturing in this country. She supported the war in Iraq. She continues to have a very, very hawkish foreign policy that has led to the rise and expansion of ISIS throughout the Middle East.
One campaign in full retreat while the other is pressing the advantage.
Something blew up all right, we just disagree on what it was.
wiltom99
(27 posts)She should have her security clearance permanently revoked! Not sure how one could be POTUS without it.