2016 Postmortem
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Sit Down, Shuddup, And Let Me Tell You What You Want
By Magma99
Thursday Apr 07, 2016 · 9:51 AM EST
...or, Honey, I Left the Millennials On Top of the Car
By Tamara Marston
A few days back, in her most egregiously tone-deaf soundbite yet, Hillary Clinton deeply dissed the youth-vote demographic, talking about them like a patronizing Great Aunt whos completely out of touch with Kids Today. Which, by the Primary returns, seems to be anyone under 40. In six seconds of lumping them under the label the Young People, she let them know she thinks theyre - sadly - too naïve and too lazy to gather information themselves, and are suckers for the influence of manipulated information (I find this deeply ironic). She speaks as if shes completely unaware that theres an entire generation reared on the internet, and that this demographic she feels so sorry for has the full spectrum of resources at their fingertips plus technical skills and savvy innate to a generation who literally cut their teeth on the family keyboard and they know far more about how and where to gather accurate and supporting information, much faster, than the vast majority of her prime age demographic base.
Heres an example that comes out of a great online conversation with a group of six 23-35 year olds yesterday: Does Clinton think she can issue a (widely thought to be considered deplorable) tweet, holding Bernie Sanders and his stance on gun laws responsible for the anguish at Sandy Hook due to his D-minus rating from the NRA supposed nonsupport of gun control... and not understand that those pitiable, sheeplike, deluded youth can (and did) pick up their phones, and in two minutes were looking at emails from her staff and other showing her history of arms sales to over 20 countries whose governments contributed many millions to the Clinton Foundation? And as they read this, they pondered how many people must have died from all those guns. Does she feel sorry for these misguided Young People? Will she be lamenting their sad little misunderstanding here, as well?
She doesnt seem to be aware that its really hard now to cover the trails youve left behind, and that all the flips and double-speak and hypocrisies and dodges a high-profile person perpetrates can be accessed and shared widely in a heartbeat. Thats gotta make it really tough on most politicians.
Now, after being raised with all the artifice/hype/misdirections of the internet, this is a generation thats found itself deeply inspired by the transparency and integrity another candidate has brought to the table; transparency that puts Clinton under a very justified, very harsh light. Shes too smart to not know this she simply doesnt seem to be able to operate on that field; its completely against her political upbringing. And whats worse is that as the gist of her attacks on Bernies commitment and vision and that unfortunate soundbite show she doesnt even seem to be trying.
Even at 56, Im mortified by it. And Im angry (thus the tone of this diary) and deeply concerned on behalf of my four millennial children and their mates and children.
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Its been confounding to me that both Clinton and the DNC would be so willfully short-sighted and arrogant to be content with their establishment voter base and stay so dismissively out of touch with the majority of the demographic currently making up one quarter of the country, aka The Future. What it speaks to is an attitude of Seize The Power By Whatever Means Possible never mind the future, or at least what almost all Americans who will be be living there are clearly stating they want for their country.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/07/1511734/-Sit-Down,-Shuddup,-And-Let-Me-Tell-You-What-You-Want
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)especially those in the food industry and those who rely on TV ads to keep their brand image up. The shopping habits of Millennials are different in part because they have been empowered to use information and their purchases to reward and punish companies for being, or not being, socially minded.
Clinton is a big brand in an era of transparency. The transparency of the internet makes Sanders the right candidate at the right time because he is so darned consistent and sincere.
Destruction of big brands and low adoption rates by Millennials:
http://fortune.com/2015/05/21/the-war-on-big-food/?src=longreads
Zira
(1,054 posts)Maybe it's because Hillary wants to be president to get what she wants and Bernie wants to be president to get what America wants?
shraby
(21,946 posts)willful ignorance.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)- in any way that they have to - AND THEN magically reunite the "party" ?!
Some how they can FIX this - no problem? Hell we'll just tell the rubes what they want to hear and REALLY shovel on the Bullshit and then they'll come running home to momma.
If it gets that far children, the party will be over. There will be nothing to unite
What a seriously dumbass strategy.
Here again we have a case of Hillary's seriously screwed up judgement.
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)You don't want to end up to be some disillusioned would be revolutionary.
Prism
(5,815 posts)That's not a truism exactly. The internet is full of specious shit. But if anyone spends any time on the internet glancing at politics, they're generally getting more information than someone who watches the six o'clock news or leaves cable on all day.
And this article cuts to the quick. Who are "young voters" in Hillaryworld? As the author says, it seems anyone under 40. I'm 36, on the boundary between Millennial and X, and I'm constantly referred to as a young voter by the Hillary campaign. I've voted in four presidential elections, more midterms and locals besides, and I'm some new, inexperienced person who may not show up at the polls?
Ok.
I've been meaning to say this for awhile, but here is apt enough.
I truly believe Hillary Clinton is the last great middle finger the Boomers are going to send to Millenials and others. After all they've done, they want a grand finale, and here she is.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,622 posts)She will fail.
Spectacularly.
It will truly be a grand finale.
Prism
(5,815 posts)But, I fear the last great Boomer act will be TPP and a host of globalization that drives the nail into the coffin of the American worker and the middle class.