FACT CHECKER: Sanders’s incorrect claim that Clinton called him ‘not qualified’ for the presidency

[MADem]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/07/sanderss-incorrect-claim-that-clinton-called-him-not-qualified-for-the-presidency/?tid=sm_tw


The Pinocchio Test

Sanders is putting words in Clinton’s mouth. She never said “quote unquote” that he was not qualified to be president. In fact, she diplomatically went out of her way to avoid saying that, without at the same time saying he was qualified. The Washington Post article appropriately noted that she raised questions about his qualifications, but certainly never said or suggested she said Sanders was unqualified.

Sanders would have been on safer ground if he had said Clinton is raising questions about his qualifications and now he would like to raise questions about her qualifications. But he can’t slam her for words she did not say.

Three Pinocchios

[daleanime]

1. ......

[pantsonfire]

2. .....

[Bill USA]

11. EXCELLENT! The Post seems to have embraced Tabloid 'journalism' & an elastic treatment of the truth

[morningfog]

13. Did you notice the source of the OP? lol

[MADem]

17. Don't be coy with the graphics--produce the LINK as I did, above.

Here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/06/clinton-questions-whether-sanders-is-qualified-to-be-president/

She NEVER SAYS he is "not qualified" and THAT is what he claimed.


So....


indeed.


He fucked up. His staff fucked up.

He is embarrassed. He should vet his material before he reads it off for applause from his fans. He should check his facts and sources.

This is just another "bad day for Bernie" happening, here.

His failure to bring in a LGBT-friendly judge in Wisconsin is another bad mark against him. He had every opportunity to help the LGBT community simply with an endorsement, but he couldn't be bothered and his selfish supporters in WI didn't even bother with any downticket voting on their ballots. They obviously don't care about Democrats at all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/108419257

Thanks to Bernie's failure to engage downticket, Wisconsin keeps their gay hating judge. Heckuvajob.

[mhatrw]

20. LOL

[Ferd Berfel]

26. I think you have to be willfully ignorant to NOT get this

SO it's different to question ? Bullshit semantics

Slicing it awfully thin kids.

[jg10003]

35. It depends on what your definition of "is" is.

[NurseJackie]

3. His campaign keeps earning a LOT of those ... seems to be a pattern here.

[mhatrw]

21. LOL

[oasis]

45. Bernie had set the standard for impeccable integrity of elected officials.

Yuuuuuge disappointment.

[rgbecker]

4. The Washngton Post would be on safer ground if they just Shut the Fuck Up!

Their Pinocchios are loose and running off at the mouth. By questioning Sanders Democratic background she opened herself up to Bernie's attacks on her qualifications.

[beedle]

10. I call then "Pinocchio Awards"

since for the most part all they do is get the Internet pissed off and they go looking for the real story, which in the case of WaPo against Bernie is no contest, given their less than secret over-the-top blind support of the establishment candidate.

[upaloopa]

14. Everything is someone else's fault to you folks

Bernie is not a saint, Just saying

[mhatrw]

23. LOL

[NurseJackie]

46. I've noticed that too. It's either that, or a conspiracy. I guess ...

... it's always easier to blame someone else rather than to take a critical look at their candidate's own shortcomings. Finding ways to blame others is ALWAYS easier than finding ways to improve.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

5. The Capehart Gazette Picayune: the last bastion of truthiness and even-handi-ness

[LexVegas]

6. Bernie lying...whats new. nt

[oasis]

16. Only 3 Pinnochios? Bernie got two different issues wrong in one day.

The Sandy Hook thing AND the matter of his being (cough) unqualified.

[SCantiGOP]

7. I think that statement by Sanders

will be looked back on as the end of his campaign.

[MADem]

22. I think you are correct. That was the "kitchen sink," as in

"Everything but the kitchen sink."

He's coming off as petulant, selfish, childish, and free and easy with the truth.

[oasis]

8. Why are there no direct quotes of Hillary saying Bernie's not qualified?

[pantsonfire]

12. She said it in so many words and won't say he's qualified after his explicit statement.

Read between the lines, but she's not a "natural politician", so who knows?

[oasis]

27. Scarbourgh sought to get Hillary to say it outright. She didn't.

Bernie is turning out to be a disappointment. The only real thing he had going for him was his impeccable integrity.

[pantsonfire]

37. Totally....

[MADem]

24. Because SHE NEVER SAID THAT--and Bernie, being lazy or whatever, believed one of his over-eager

hatchet men (or women) and just rattled off the big lies they put in front of him.

It's clear he's not in charge of his own campaign. He's just jumping through the hoops that Tad, Jeff and Jane have put before him.

[oasis]

34. NO DIRECT QUOTES? All this pushback on what Bernie ASSUMED.

If she didn't say it, she didn't say it.

[morningfog]

38. Does her campaign speak for her or not?

[oasis]

39. I'm looking for DIRECT quotes not MISDIRECTION. Show me quotes

from Hill or her campaign saying "Bernie's not qualified to be president".

[morningfog]

40. Maybe you went to bed early Tuesday night?

I mean she was getting her ass handed to her for the seventh straight contest in a row.

[oasis]

43. What no DIRECT QUOTES yet? Must not be any then.

See ya

[morningfog]

44. It was being discussed and defended by your side before the Joe

interview.

I get it, it makes you uncomfortable and you have your orders. Must follow the orders.

[pantsonfire]

18. .....

[MADem]

32. LOL--was that before or after all his Brady bill downvotes?

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-comments-gun-manufacturers-sandy-hook-lawsuit-444688

BERNIE SANDERS FACES MOUNTING CRITICISM ON GUNS

Bernie Sanders increasingly is being criticized by both Hillary Clinton and gun-control activists for his vote more than 10 years ago supporting a measure that protects firearms manufactures from lawsuits. But the real action remains in the hands of a judge in Connecticut.

Clinton, his opponent in the Democratic presidential race, repeatedly has called out Sanders for his gun-voting record. The former secretary of state especially has highlighted his previous support for the 2005 law, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). The measure prevents gun-violence victims from taking legal action against firearms distributors whose weapons are used in fatal shootings and other crimes.

On the defensive, the Vermont senator has leaned on his rural ties and goal to help mom-and-pop gun shops from facing legal action. He brags about his weak D-minus rating from the National Rifle Association (NRA), which he argues makes him an enemy to the gun industry. He even has vowed to co-sponsor a bill with congressional Democrats that seeks to void PLCAA, which he voted for when he served in the House.
But his comments on gun manufacturers at the March 6 Democratic debate—and most recently in an interview with the New York Daily News this week—have caused a stir and reinvigorated criticism against the independent.
....Clinton has the backing from prominent leaders and outspoken gun-control activists in New York, including Senator Chuck Schumer, Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio. U.S. Senator Chris Murphy and Congresswoman Elizabeth Esty, both of Connecticut, also have commended Clinton for her work against gun violence, simultaneously speaking out against Sanders. Clinton has the public support from the mothers of the late Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis, who both were fatally shot four years ago in Florida.

[pantsonfire]

36. .....

[scscholar]

33. LOL, Larry Craig

It's sad Sanders associates with his kind.

[aikoaiko]

47. Are you here on DU to spam this content?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1674244

[Bill USA]

15. uhoh, they're gonna be getting the stake & fires ready 4 the WaPo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511674204#post4

[mhatrw]

19. LOL

[Prism]

31. And you got it in one.

Don't expect the OP to respond.

[mindwalker_i]

42. In this post (OP)

This graphic has shut down about 5 subthreads, and I'm not even at the bottom yet.

[Squinch]

25. Kick and rec!

[Prism]

28. Is it WaPo?

*doesn't read post and checks link*

It's WaPo.

I'd ask why they're awarding creepy phalluses to anyone for anything, but, eh, whatkinyado.

It's so rabbit holey now that I have to view the words "fact checker" with high suspicion, because 90% of the time I know I'm about to be fed some bullshit.

[geek tragedy]

29. Bernocchio strikes again. nt

[basselope]

30. Nahhh....

"Scarborough: Do you think he is qualified, and do you think he is capable to deliver on the things he is promising to all these Democratic voters?

Clinton: Let me put it this way, Joe. I think that what he has been saying about the core issues in his whole campaign doesn’t seem to be rooted in an understanding of either the law or the practical ways you get something done. I will leave it to the voters to decide who of us can do the job that the country needs, who can do all aspects of the job, both on the economic domestic issues and on national security and foreign policy."

The Clintonian way... let someone else say, back them up and then claim "I didn't say it".

[mhatrw]

41. "Let me put it this way, Joe."

"All of us corporate sellouts know he is not in our club, and you just can't get into the White House without being a member."