Bernie supporters are addicted to his talking points

[upaloopa]

They have no more understanding how he would get things done then he has.

All they do is recite Bernie's stump speech and bash Hillary.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. Do you have a sad?

[roguevalley]

18. I am addicted to truth. Sorry.

[Kalidurga]

2. And I haven't seen a single post from Hillary supporters saying how she would get things done.

And none on what exactly she will get done.

[kaleckim]

35. Platitudes don't do it for ya?

I always like a standard for others that the person can't live up to themselves. Is the argument against him that breaking them up is impossible (which it isn't), or that he doesn't know the exact mechanics of how it would happen? Such a stupid talking point. Maybe this is news to the people supporting the corrupt candidate in the lead, but presidents hire people to work through the mechanics, and they are experts in the field (someone like Bill Back, Kelton's colleague at UMKC, might be a good choice for this) and focus on big picture stuff. He isn't saying that buildings float on air and the corrupt, right wing mag that was interviewing him got things factually incorrect (I suspect on purpose) when discussing how the banks would be broken up.

So, what is the universal standard for specificity we should expect from these two candidates moving forward. Are we expecting the same level of specifics in regards to Clinton improving the ACA?

[Kalidurga]

46. I would love to see some specifics that improve the ACA.

I like the specific of medicare for all that would be an improvement.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Tsk. Tsk. Poor Hillary.

Alas, Bernie's supporters know how Hillary "gets things done". She collaborates with Republicans.

[Betty Karlson]

10. Her judgement is seriously flawed, he has been right for 30 years.

But we should ignore his message because Clinton "get's things done".

Things like NAFTA/TPP/TTIP.

And the Panama deal.

And the Iraq War Resolution.

And Wall Street impunity.

And DOMA.

And DADT.

And opposition to marriage equality.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Those were just "mistakes", "misquotes", and mere bagatelles from her youth.

Or, so 'tis said. Frequently.

[Betty Karlson]

23. Well praise Nancy!

Because many of you don't know this - but back in those days HIV was a very difficult subject, and Ronald and Nancy Reagan really led the way by starting the national conversation ... I mispoke, so here is a twitter-line ... OK, I will make a speech, free of the customary $650,000 fee: the Reagans don't deserve that distinction (please nobody notice that they actually deserve the opposite distinction and I look completely oblivious about LGBT issues) but I lost people too so that makes it alright now let's talk about straight and heteronormative people in Africa and most importantly: let's talk about me and my awesome qualifications to be president.

[DrDan]

14. has there ever been a president who has not had to work with the opposing party to get things done?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. "work with" or "collaborate with"?

As in the IWR vote.

[DrDan]

22. collaborate - "to work jointly with others or together especially in an intellectual endeavor"

[Betty Karlson]

24. Intellectual collaboration as in Goldwater ideologue?

[DrDan]

25. I ask my question again - has there ever been a president who has not worked with the opposing party

[Betty Karlson]

27. Not on issues of the economy: and the outcome was invariably pro-1%

[DrDan]

33. don't believe any of that was in the original charge in post 3

but feel free to move those goalposts

[Betty Karlson]

61. I see that all those times the gaolposts for Hillary's inevitability had to be moved - and

were noticed moving - have left a deep resentment.

[bettyellen]

40. O jeeze, this is why other people bring up the Fidel Castro commie bullshit. Seriously silly....

on both sides. Doesn't matter who started it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. I get it. Her collabortaion with Bush on Iraq was merely an "intellectual endeavor".

Uh-huh.

[DrDan]

32. lets try this a different way - are you suggesting Bernie will not collaborate with the Republicans

should he beat the immense odds and make it to the WH

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Who knows? I do think/believe he has a better grasp of the word "No" than Hillary.

As proven by his IWR vote.

[DrDan]

39. c'mon - can't you at least be honest about this - of course he will have to work with the R's

should he get elected.

I am quite sure he would admit to this. It is not a fault - it is recognition as to how the system works to get things done - you know, voting and all.

It is just silly to make this a Hillary fault.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

49. Did you ever consider that "the system" is the problem?

[DrDan]

51. so work to change it - but it is the system at present - and do you want excuses or results?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

53. I am. I'm voting for Bernie or another progressive.

You?

I see Hillary and her perpetual collaboration with the system as possibly the least likely way to change it or replace it.

[DrDan]

58. if you think he can be effective from a vacuum, you are seriously misinformed

I want someone in the WH who can make advances

[timmymoff]

56. If bernie wins the white house

He will have a democratic majority. If Hillary wins the nomination, we won't. As inspiring as a 2x4 she is, and campaigns like one too!

[DrDan]

57. a majority does not insure passing legislation

[timmymoff]

59. are you suggesting the republicans are willing to work with Hillary?

This is a false narrative that they will work with her, which is exactly what we do not want. She will sell us out again, like usual with her corporate dem status

[DrDan]

60. that wasn't the question

[Joe the Revelator]

4. And Hillary supporters just whine about Bernie Bros and avoid issues at all costs

Funny, that.

[Kip Humphrey]

5. I never got that memo... Can you provide me his talking points so I can study up?

I always hated being late for class.

[Bohemianwriter]

6. While Hillary is addicted...

to prove his point on a daily basis.

Having fundraisers with NRA lobbyists and armws dealers while accusing Bernie for being against the victims of Sandy Hook...

[seattleite]

7. Oh, poor, poor Hillary, a.k.a. Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood

[libtodeath]

8. How does Hillary get us to single payer universal health care?

[TCJ70]

9. The question of how has only been used against Sanders in this primary...

...and never, to my knowledge, asked of Clinton. I suppose that's what happens when you have big ideas. He's got answers, some people don't like them, but at least they're answers. What does Clinton have? Nice words? Incrementalism (how will she get the same congress that voted to eliminate the ACA 60+ times to make it better, anyway?)?

I look at the websites of both of them (really the best place to get their actual proposals) and it seems to me that Sanders ideas of re-orienting the priorities of our tax dollars is really the best way to go about getting it all done. Hillary just isn't realistic and is actually the candidate talking about paying for things solely by taxing the wealthy. That's the most unrealistic thing that's been put out there this season and she's gotten away with it with no pushback.

[Politicalboi]

11. And you guys are addicted to Hillary's lies

Bernie will do more for the common American than Hillary ever will. She'll sell us out. She went behind Obama's back. Don't you think she'll go behind ours? She can't be trusted. If Hillary was Elizabeth Warren, I would support her.

[Eleanors38]

12. Well, at least I'm not addicted to Gunneria.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

13. I tried Hillary's talking points for a few days, but ended up feeling nauseous in the mornings.

I checked with my doctor and he switched me back to Sanders. I no longer feel like vomiting! I was just taking too many hilligrams for my own good.

[ThePhilosopher04]

15. I think you meant Hillary supporters

[AgingAmerican]

16. Hillary supporters are perplexed at the thought

Of governing

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. The whole thing reminds me of "Hope and Change"

None of that stuff happened, yet the fans seem to believe that a much more specific and aggressive agenda will somehow be more successful.

[Gregorian]

21. It's just the opposite: I already had all the views Bernie has.

What you see is a representative in alignment with the people.

[Trust Buster]

26. All they see is $$$$$ signs. The "how" is irrelevant to them.

[kennetha]

29. Yeah it's pretty amazing

Bernie is as robotic as Marco Rubio was. And his supporters are mostly clueless. It is kind of scary.

[tabasco]

30. I see you like making broad generalizations.

Intelligent people do not do that.

[whatchamacallit]

31. Yes, half the democrats are ignorant rubes. Unity!

[hobbit709]

34. That is Hillaryous in more ways than one coming from you.

[oasis]

36. Bernie departed from his stump speech in an unwarranted attack on Hillary.

His lame excuse was just a cover up for his lapse in civility. Bernie should be prepared for a significant drop off of his support.

[asuhornets]

37. There ya go

He says it then they say it.

[timmymoff]

41. We aren't addicted

it is just easier to remember the talking points day to day considering they don't change with the direction of the wind.

[azmom]

42. It's call consistency in beliefs. As a Hillary

Supporter that concept may be foreign to you.

[pantsonfire]

43. Hillary supporters are addicted to her flip-flopping talking points...

v

[SidDithers]

44. DU rec for the very best reason of all...nt

Sid

[Squinch]

45. It's sad. Some of them are people I have respected in the past and now they come

across as zombies just repeating idiocy.

The saddest are the posters I know from the past to be good and decent people who are now posting nothing but nastiness and insult.

I've been staying away from DU because I can't stand to see this happening to people, and I stopped back in today and saw that it is worse than ever.

[ibegurpard]

47. "Ready from Day 1"...

"Most qualified" (snarf), " best prepared"... this Stuart Smalley garbage is a out all the average Hillary drone can come up with.
Spare me.

[NCTraveler]

48. For the most part he has three sizable groups.

You are talking about the first.

1) LIV's trying to look cool and feel important.
2) Paul supporters that got on board after Paul dropped out.
3) Awesome progressives who always support the most progressive economic platform but supports the dem if it isn't their person as they fully understand the complexities of economic and social justice.

[beaglelover]

50. Yep. Bernie is the flim flam man. NO substance. A total slacker who did not have a full time job

until he was in his 40s. Dirtbag!

[Else You Are Mad]

52. Am I addicted...

to Sanders' truths as much as Bill Clinton said that black children are addicted to crack?

[JudyM]

54. Um. Maybe they far prefer his message? Far prefer his goals? Far prefer his values?

[Beacool]

55. It's the Land of Oz and Sanders is the man behind the curtain.

All smoke and mirrors. How would he break the banks? How would he get single payer passed through Congress? How would he get free tuition for college students? Poof, we'll just have a political revolution. According to him, there will be masses of people outside McConnell's window clamoring to pass whatever Sanders proposed.

Talk about selling a bill of goods to his supporters, no wonder most of them are young.