MUST WATCH: Bill Clinton SHUTS DOWN Black Lives Matter Protesters defends "SuperPredators"

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Ruh Roh better send Bill Clinton back into the cupboard....

[HumanityExperiment]

1. Stunning....

Just loop this and press play for all to see and let it sink in.... WOW, he's his own worst enemy and also that of his wife's campaign...

[questionseverything]

36. he seems like he is losing it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017351637

[Cheese Sandwich]

51. Bill Clinton: What about black on black crime!!?

That what was doing

[frylock]

100. I'm at work and have not watched the video.

Please tell me he didn't say that. Please?

[Cheese Sandwich]

112. Not literally those words. That's just my interpretation.

But it's not too far off the mark.

Here's an article with words

Bill Clinton defends wife's 'super predator' comment to protesters

"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped on crack and sent them out on the street to murder other African-American children," he said, shaking his finger at a heckler as Clinton supporters cheered, according to video of the event. "Maybe you thought they were good citizens. She didn't."

Hillary Clinton, who also has faced protesters upset by her remarks, has said she regrets using the term.
...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-billclinton-idUSKCN0X42NS

[George II]

158. Ah, your "interpretation", huh? Thanks.

[Cheese Sandwich]

163. ya. Deflecting criticism of bad polices by talking about black on black crime

That's what Bill did there. It's a right wing trope. Bill getting back to his roots.

Everybody agrees violent crime is bad. Nobody approves of violent crime.

The question is how should we fight it. Is it by throwing millions of people in jail and throwing away the key. Ramping up the war on drugs? Cutting people off welfare? Calling the children a "new breed" of super-predators? Mass violations of civil rights and liberties and criminalizing black life? Militarizing the police?

Bill Clinton screwed up today.

[George II]

182. You haven't watched the entire 10+ minutes, did you.

Again, Congress passed the legislation, and Sanders was one of those who voted for it.

Neither Hillary nor Bill Clinton voted for it.

Talk about deflection. So, are you upset with Sanders for voting for it?

[rhett o rick]

211. Black Lives Activist Ashley Williams states the case against H. Clinton quite well

Here are some important points made by Ms. Williams:

“Here's the truth: the Clinton legacy has left our prisons bursting at the seams. Real lives have been destroyed as a result. It is an indisputable fact that millions of Black people were locked up for drug crimes and provided the bodies for the expansion of the prison industry.

The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

And the Prisons For Profits industry has been very supportive of H. Clinton.

[George II]

213. Neither Clinton voted for the crime bill, but Sanders did. How do you justify that?

[rhett o rick]

216. I have told you time and again, I don't answer to you and your insinuating questions. Homey

don't play your game.

How about you. Do you think that locking up millions of AA in Prisons For Profits is a good thing?


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.” BLM

[George II]

217. So then we can assume that you're satisfied with Sanders voting for the bill...

....for which you're blaming Hillary Clinton as a private citizen.

[rhett o rick]

220. Please assume away. But when you assume, let's be clear, you are not making an ass out of me.

Besides it's more important what Black Lives Matters thinks than me and they think:

“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

That's short and to the point. I guess now BLM goes under the bus with Green Peace.

[George II]

222. Didn't the Sanders campaign (and followers) throw BLM under the bus in Phoenix in July?

[George II]

223. Not trying to make an ass out of anyone. The fact remains.........

......between Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and Bernard Sanders, only one of them voted for that legislation.

That was Bernard Sanders.

Spin it any way you want, it won't change history.

[rhett o rick]

224. Your spin doesn't seem to change the minds of Black Lives Matter.

“Here's the truth: the Clinton legacy has left our prisons bursting at the seams. Real lives have been destroyed as a result. It is an indisputable fact that millions of Black people were locked up for drug crimes and provided the bodies for the expansion of the prison industry.

The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

It says "make no mistake". I think you should heed that advice. The Clintons have long been tough on crime. BLM sees it as too tough, but the Prisons For Profits sees it as profits, profits they gladly share with The Clintons. It's this corrupt culture that we are fighting against and you seem to be fight to retain.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

116. Here is a transcription

See these other signs.
This is what's the matter.
I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got thirteen year old kids hopped up on crack and sent em out onto the street to murder other african american children.
Maybe you thought they were good citizens, she didn't. <more forcefully> she didn't.
You are defending the people who kill the lives you say matter. Tell the truth <smirks>
You are defending the people who caused young people to go out and take guns.
There was a thirteen year old girl in Washington DC planning her own <can't understand this word>.
How would you do it?
Now look at this other one. Look at this. That's not true.
Now let's talk about the other thing. They say that the welfare reform bill increased poverty then why do we have the largest drop in african american poverty in history...

[Fantastic Anarchist]

210. "Then why do we have the largest drop in african american poverty in history..."

By recalculating the metric.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

214. Well if you put all the poor people in jail...

Then they don't get counted anymore

[Fantastic Anarchist]

226. Exactly!

[George II]

212. That's only a small part of it, the part you wanted people to hear or read. How about....

....the other 9+ minutes?

I guess you don't want us to see or hear that. Why?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

215. You dredge up my post again to bug me again, after I told you I was done talking to you...

[George II]

219. But you did.

Time for lunch for me. Today my wife is preparing a peanut butter sandwich with her favorite brand, Skippy.

[Cheese Sandwich]

63. I thought he already apologized his mass incarceration policies. Is he retracting his apology now?

Bill seems confused

[Ken Burch]

97. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

[markpkessinger]

141. LOL!

[MoonchildCA]

172. Good one!

[George II]

160. It was the policy of CONGRESS, which passed the law, and voted for by Bernie Sanders...

....I guess that inconvenient fact escaped you, huh?

[zappaman]

2. Only 13 OPs today slamming the Clintons?

Oh well, the day is young and you have plenty of time to get to your usual 2 dozen or so.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

6. She makes it so easy though.... nt

[Lizzie Poppet]

12. Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!

[Betty Karlson]

21. "scorched earth tactics" are likely to backfire when the opponents are BERNING!

All you do is deprive yourself of territory.

[roguevalley]

52. if they would think before they act, there would be nothing to say. Personally, this should be an ad

[ViseGrip]

88. Indeed, an ad....just a 15 sec ad

[Motown_Johnny]

101. What was inaccurate about the OP?

If you can't answer that, the entire premise for you post is a false one.

[Motown_Johnny]

99. He clearly deserves to get slammed on this one.

Do you not agree?

[Scootaloo]

203. Poor Bill clinton, he's such a victim of us.

[George II]

225. A slow day.

[2cannan]

3. Too bad he doesn't realize his wife already said her role in this was a mistake...

Hillary Clinton Says She Agrees Her Role In Mass Incarceration Was A Mistake
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/06/3757126/hillary-clinton-mass-incarceration-mistake/

[arcane1]

14. She sure does make a lot of "mistakes" that just so happen to harm non-white people n/t

[Betty Karlson]

22. And gay people (including the non-white ones): praise Nancy!

[daleanime]

30. Well, if you're not wealthy....

you're fair game.

[PatrickforO]

35. You're damned right we are.

No one gives much of a shit about anybody in America who is middle class or below.

We don't count, you know. Kind of like those mushrooms in the old video games.

That's what we are to these people, just a bunch of nameless, powerless mushrooms.

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

60. Not trying to hijack...

But Powerless Mushrooms would be a great name for a band

[appalachiablue]

104. Since the late 80s, early 90s the New, DLC/3rd Way Dems abandoned working & middle class

Americans like Thomas Frank describes so well in "Listen Liberal!: Or, What Ever Happened to the Democratic Party?". Amen.

Only the top 10% matter, the other 90% are orphaned by the once Big Tent Party of the People. Yet Bernie and others are bringing inspiration, plans and ideas for change to disrupt a dystopian path thank heaven.

Neoliberalism kills..

[ViseGrip]

209. Gads, after traveling for State Dept. he's getting to know her still.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

4. I think he just told a black activist that they defend children who kill children...

That won't be a good look.

[George II]

55. You "think"? YOU posted the video, and a very short section of the video, and........

.......you don't know what he really said, W.?

The interplay was almost 10 minutes and you chose just 59 seconds to post.

We thought you were better than that.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

62. I posted what the news station hosted...

I don't watch Clinton rallies, so I can't comment on the whole interaction.

[George II]

71. If you don't watch Clinton rallies, why did you title your post "MUST WATCH"? And that is...

....from Youtube, not a news station.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

75. I posted the title of the youtube clip... and yes its youtube but...

It is a local affiliates youtube channel that created and hosted the video. They probably rehosted from the PA affiliate.

[George II]

142. So, you decided to choose a 59 second edited version from a FOX AFFILIATE instead of....

....a longer version from a CBS (KYW) affiliate or the entire video (11+ minutes) from the ABC affiliate without the subjective "title" (also available on youtube)?

I guess the Fox hit edit suited the purpose of the OP better.

Here's the FULL, unedited video, enjoy W:

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

143. You accuse me of doing something and when...

It is proven I didn't you just move on and pivot to accuse me of doing something else... So I'm done having this discussion with you.

[George II]

145. I pointed out that you did something, and now further pointed out that you decided to use....

....a FOX edited version of the video even though the complete, unedited version from a less right-wing source was available from ABC News.

PLUS, you fail to point out that Hillary Clinton didn't vote for that legislation, but Bernie Sanders DID vote for it!!!

Why didn't you mention that, huh?

We've seen this type of stuff from people here before, looks very familiar, W!

[JudyM]

152. Are you even for real? A vid is a vid, and Bill was clearly defending *her position* on it.

[George II]

155. Totally out of context - I posted the full video without the "FOX" description. Watch it, please.

[JudyM]

161. I have no desire to watch him for that length of time. I will, however, watch whatever timestamp

frame you believe would make a difference.

And my point still stands.

[Native]

170. Following the leader, eh?

Why read the article when you can simply react to the headline, right?
Why listen to the entire speech when you can simply pick & choose what fits your narrative?
That's what I'm looking for in a president!

[JudyM]

171. How not tuned in you are. I watched the version that was posted. You insult yourself.

[Native]

167. Thank you for posting the full version. What a contrast!

I was there in the 90's. Thanks for reminding us of what we had, President Clinton.

[George II]

181. You're welcome - it really helps to see the ENTIRE incident, not just a selective snippet of it.

[steve2470]

193. thanks for that nt

[geardaddy]

156. Why is he calling you W?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

159. I think he is insinuating I'm some other user...

Multiple Hillbots have done that. I got a PM from Agschmid who said I was WillyT so I'm assuming that's who he is implying I am

[geardaddy]

162. Ah. I thought he was implying you were *shrub. n/t

[LiberalArkie]

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178. Jury results:

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Watch your back- Good luck.

[Armstead]

86. Is posting a segment worse than segment from a long newspaper interview?

Just wonder how wide your double standards go

[George II]

134. What are you talking about? I didn't post a segment from a long newspaper interview.

[MoonchildCA]

173. I think the poster was implying that posting a segment of this video...

...is no worse than the Daily News printing only a segment of Bernie's interview to make it look like he didn't know what he was saying. They were fine with that little piece of editing...

[George II]

180. Still irrelevant here, and the Daily News DID print the entire interview, along with....

....posting a full transcript of the interview on their website.

A deflection and smoke screen.

[me b zola]

125. You watched that video and *that* is what has gotten you riled up?

Back in the day they used to remove entire subthreads that were designed to derail a thread. But here we are.

[George II]

135. This last year has been entirely different than "back in the day" - back in the day....

....dozens of OPs a day trashing a Democratic candidate would be frowned upon, particularly obviously biased OPs and those with misleading or totally false attacks on those candidates.

[JudyM]

153. And Bernie is ok to trash, per you, though he is also a dem candidate.

[George II]

157. Excuse me? You're saying that in a thread started specifically to trash Hillary and Bill Clinton?

[JudyM]

164. Um, miss the point often?

[George II]

165. No.

[JudyM]

169. Beg to differ, that's twice in 10 minutes for you.

[okasha]

185. No, we didn't.

[nc4bo]

176. That was dreadful.

Horrible optics.

Clinton tag team is going to figure out how to handle these situations better.

[chascarrillo]

7. My god. -nt-

[haikugal]

8. You will NOT question the Clinton, either one!

They are smarter than you and richer and have more friends in high places...get it?!

Now do you know why they fit in with the Bush crime family?

GO Bernie, GO!!

[CentralCoaster]

9. Go Bubba!

Where was he when we needed him in prior to the southern primaries?

Oh well, better late than never.

Please proceed, Mr. President.

[dr60omg]

10. This is the stuff which I remember

And NO not a good time was had by all ... it was obfuscate and parse and lie and play games while what you said and did was in plain sight

[AzDar]

11. Ooof.

[NWCorona]

13. So he used the black on black crime as a defense? That's very RW of him

And "hopped up on Crack" lol

Thank you for validating that superpredators was used to describe black people tho!

[Luminous Animal]

17. Yep.

[BernieforPres2016]

61. Bill Clinton signed a bill to maintain the 100:1 sentencing disparity for crack vs powder cocaine

I think it is worth noting that this took place after the disastrous 1994 midterm elections, when the Republicans routed the Democrats and took control of both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years. Hillary brought Dick Morris into the White House to advise Bill and Morris had Bill moving to the right and making poll tested appeals to conservative voters in order to improve his chances of getting reelected in 1996.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-10-31/news/1995304052_1_crack-cocaine-powder-cocaine-cocaine-crimes

<President Clinton signed into law yesterday a bill to continue punishing crack-cocaine crimes far more severely than powder-cocaine crimes -- a difference that civil rights activists say is racist.

"I am not going to let anyone who peddles drugs get the idea that the cost of doing business is going down," Mr. Clinton said in nullifying a plan by the U.S. Sentencing Commission to make punishments the same for crack cocaine and powdered cocaine.

As a result, those convicted of crack crimes -- mainly blacks -- will receive the same punishments as those who deal in much greater amounts of powder cocaine. The president, defending hTC the difference, said inner-city communities are hit much harder by crack-related violence.>

<Blacks account for more than 80 percent of those convicted of crack crimes; whites account for less than 5 percent. By contrast, whites are involved in 32 percent of powder-cocaine convictions; blacks, 27 percent, according to the U.S. Sentencing Commission.

But blacks tend to receive longer sentences for crack cocaine crimes than whites do for powder-cocaine crimes; federal law for years has provided much heavier sentences for crimes that involve crack cocaine, and Mr. Clinton's signature yesterday maintained that difference.

The punishment difference of 100 to 1 works this way: Crimes involving 1 gram of crack get mandatory sentences equal to crimes involving 100 grams of powder.>


As the last act of his Presidency, Bill pardoned his half brother Roger, who had been convicted for cocaine possession.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1318811/Clinton-grants-pardon-for-his-drug-offending-brother.html

<Mr Clinton also pardoned his own brother, Roger, who was convicted for cocaine possession in Arkansas and who was among a number of drug offenders that Mr Clinton believed had been punished too harshly.>

[NWCorona]

69. Yup! I mention that 100 to 1 law in another thread

I think this video definitely puts that into a different light.

[arcane1]

186. Exactly! Pretending to stand up for those addicts today, while locking them up yesterday.

Then blames republicans for a bill he signed.

[azmom]

64. Yes, he did. Defending all if it including

the cuts in welfare. Unbelievable.

[NWCorona]

73. But people still defend him

I jumped the shark on Bill when he lied to my face!

[Punkingal]

15. But Hillary said she wasn't talking about gang members....she was talking about drug cartel members.

[NWCorona]

19. This makes it very clear who they were talking about.

Black people!

[Punkingal]

25. Well yeah, her video was clear, too, but that's one of those things the MSM lets her get away with.

[NWCorona]

32. Yup! But Hillary being the better lawyer of the two was more skillful of the wording

He let it all hang out in this vid! And Bill that 100 to 1 rule under your belt has a little more relevance now as well!

[daleanime]

34. Yeahup.....

one of many.

[MisterP]

44. like the Facusses whose coup she greenlit and confirmed?

[rachacha]

16. Doesn't look like he brought them to heel. Try a bullhorn maybe?

[Lizzie Poppet]

18. Looks like Pander Bear jumped the gun.

Quick! Someone tell him Hillary still needs black voters.

[oldandhappy]

20. was just thinking I had not heard from bullhorn bill in a long time.

[Jitter65]

23. You are a super predator if you call out a 11-year old to an alley and shoot him dead for

a pay back to a gang to which his father belonged. You are a super predator if you entice kids 9-12 to deliver drugs for you in dangerous surroundings. You are a super predator if drive by an row of houses and indiscriminately shoot at homes and end up killing a five year old and a grandmother. You are a super predator if you lay wait for an elderly man or woman to leave a corner store and you mug them or shoot them. Does that mean that every black teen in the neighborhood is a super predator? Hell not. But no one ever said that...ever! I have been to enough funerals for young and old relative killed like that to know what a super predator is. And they exist.

[WhenTheLeveeBreaks]

39. Bravo

[NWCorona]

42. But the vast majority and I mean vast, who got swept up in the crime bill

Never committed any of the crimes you listed.

[artislife]

53. The Clintons don't seem to mind collateral damage

Anywhere.

It is a pattern.

[frylock]

105. It's worth it, as Secretary Albright once informed the world.

[kaleckim]

82. Okay...

take yourself to a room full of black people (most of whom know damn well how the word was used back then, and are also aware of the right wing context) and make this argument. You wouldn't have the guts. I guess she shouldn't have apologized and should have given the type of argument you did here?

[Ken Burch]

118. But they didn't have the cops focus exclusively and specifically on THOSE types.

They didn't even point out that the overwhelming majority of the black community were law-abiding and just as committed as anyone else to wiping out drug abuse and drug trafficking.

They were just fine with the cops treating virtually all AA males 17-25 as superpredators until proven dead.

They acquiesced, to say the least, in what amounted to the revocation of presumption of innocence until proven guilty for anyone in that age and race cohort.

They never challenged the racialization of drug and crime policy-and encouraged it whenever they thought it would benefit their own political interests.

They never challenged the police assumption that blackness equaled predatoriness(in fact, there plenty of drug thugs and gang members who were white or Latino).

They were fine with "three strikes"-even though most of those given life sentences under that policy were basically people who sold three joints to three different narcs.

There were no distinctions made, and nothing at all was done to protect the civil liberties of people in those communities.

Bill and Hill were just fine with the Nineties being "Giuliani time" on drug and crime policy.

And this outburst makes it clear that, if HRC does get in, Bill will constantly be pushing her back towards the worst of Nineties backlash appeasement, rather than doing any of the things that would actually make a difference in reducing drug-related crime(like legalizing pot, decriminalizing at least some other drugs, and actually funding drug treatment centers again).

[Bread and Circus]

24. Where's the usual brigade to come in here and tell us...

What a racist, tone deaf, insensitive, white supremacist black people hating jackass Bill Clinton is?

In other words, how does Bill Clinton get away with saying worse things than Bernie Sanders and his surrogates would ever dare to say?

[NWCorona]

26. Anybody else notice how much he enjoyed putting them in their place?

[Go Vols]

27. Wow

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

29. I love that gif! It is so apt as to what is happening to the Clintonmobile.

[frylock]

109. I've been fascinated by the gif for days. I finally had to research it.

A right-front upright failure was the reason for Sébastien Buemi's frightening accident in opening practice for the Chinese Grand Prix on Friday. The Swiss driver speared left and into the Armco barrier at the Turn 14 hairpin after both front wheels flew off the car simultaneously

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/232561/toro-rosso-identify-cause-of-buemi-crash/

[BillZBubb]

28. Don't worry the Hillary fanatics do not care about this.

They've already used up their "firewall". So, it is time for the Clinton's attention to turn elsewhere. Time to butter up another constituency. Until they aren't so crucial anymore. Rinse and repeat.

Before the general election, in true Clinton style, they will seek out their "Sister Souljah" moment to court the redneck vote. I'm sure the Hillary fanatics will be tickled pink by their wise campaign move.

[Locrian]

95. that was my take....

time to toss them aside .... it's NEW YORK time

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

129. This says it all!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. Well that settles THAT. As if there was any credible doubt she was referring to African Americans.

I mean, I suppose there could be other "gang" "super predators" "hopped up on crack" killing "other African Americans"

The only missing racist code words is "thugs"

[guillaumeb]

33. Slick Willie playing to his base? Does this play well in Arkansas?

[NWCorona]

37. I will admit I'm biased against the Clinton's and even tho I voted twice for Bill

I like him the least.

But this clip really bothers me and I wonder what other black people here think about it.

[BernieforPres2016]

38. Why doesn't Bill debate Marian Wright Edelman on his claim that black poverty dropped?

Bill is actually defending his Crime Bill (which he has said on other occasions went too far) and the Welfare Reform bill? Congratulations to the demonstrators.

[JimDandy]

40. Ohhhh Myyyy!

[itsrobert]

41. Bill! Way to smackown Bernie's fake protesters

Way to go Bill!

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

46. The protesters were right...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/27/bernie-sanders-is-right-bill-clintons-welfare-law-doubled-extreme-poverty/

[itsrobert]

48. Well, that part of Bill's reponse was cut off in the video

So, I don't know the response to Bernie's fake protesters on that issue.

[kaleckim]

90. "Bernie's fake protesters"

Evidence please? I guess BLM in its entirety belongs to Sanders now? Couldn't be because of the actual impact of the policies he supported. What a horrible candidate she is. My guess is that she will probably be less happy than you are with his response here, for some weird reason...

[leftofcool]

199. But, they weren't BLM members.

You really need to keep up with what BLM has sanctioned and what they have not.

[kaleckim]

206. BLM doesn't sanction things

in the way you are claiming. It is a decentralized movement. Besides the point anyway, what organization they are part of is irrelevant. If they were (almost certainly) an activist group, does it matter more if they were BLM or the the reason they were challenging Clinton, as well as his horrific response? Also, given that he himself acknowledged some of the harm his policies caused, doesn't what he said kind of reveal that he was lying? He doesn't regret those bills and still uses a right wing framing to defend them.

[Kelvin Mace]

166. As I recall, HRC supporters LOVED BLM protestors

when they protested Sanders events. Now that they are after HRC and surrogates they are suddenly "fake protestors" sent by Sanders.

My, what an interesting mind you have.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

85. ^^^This is how you know the stuff from Seattle last year was BS^^^

Had the shoe been on the other foot and a Sanders supporter said something similar about Hillary's "fake protesters" in Seattle, all hell would have broken loose. We know this because all hell broke loose anyway when Sanders graciously handed his microphone over.

The outrage from last summer was manufactured. Sure, everyone knew this already, but the post above does a good job of illustrating the point.

[frylock]

120. We knew that when DU's favorite little social justice warrior applauded Hillary..

for having BLM protestors removed from one of her events.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

122. Well. Then, um yeah, if you want to play your overwhelming trump card so early, you win.

Good point.

[TM99]

140. So now, BLM AND GreenPeace

are Sanders protestors and supporters, eh?

Talk about fucking racist and tone deaf. Bravo! Bravo!

[TheBlackAdder]

151. Jury Results

On Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:09 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

So now, BLM AND GreenPeace
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1674738

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Called A long standing honourable liberal member of DU a "RACIST"

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:12 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I must have missed that part.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The "honourable liberal member of DU" was not called a racist.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: funny
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why the attempt to suppress discourse? Grow up children!

[TM99]

175. Well at least the jury

got that I was calling Bill Clinton the racist and not the poster. But I do have a fan club.

[uponit7771]

200. +1

[yardwork]

43. Did you see this at the pub?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

45. Onto my ignore you go... nt

[yardwork]

47. Pass the peanuts, Willya?

[lunamagica]

184. Oh, snap

[George II]

49. Interesting, W., lots of objective people saw that exactly opposite to what you're trying to say.

[jillan]

50. This needs to go viral. Nina Turner & Rosario Dawson are stumping for Bernie in NY.

I think they need to see this.

So does Tim Black.

[NWCorona]

76. Tim will have a field day with this video

I'm waiting for someone at The Root to pick it up as well.

[jillan]

84. Are you on twitter?

Send it! I sent it to Tim but the more people that send it, the more chance he will actually watch it.

I sent it to Nina, Rosario, Thom, Cenk. And I also sent it to @maddow just for fun

[NWCorona]

87. Yes I joined up but not super active

I will send it tho!

Good idea!

[jillan]

92. It's a good time to get active!

Bernie supporters own the place The more the merrier.

I wasn't active at all until a few months ago.

[NWCorona]

93. True!

[Zira]

131. +10000

[NWCorona]

204. Have you seen this yet?

[PufPuf23]

54. Ouch. Impossible to excuse. kr

[itsrobert]

56. actually it seems like Bernie's Fake protestors were defending "SuperPredators"

The ones that pushed young black youth into selling drugs on the streets by using threats of violence to them or their familiy/friends. and actual violence.

[George II]

137. That's exactly it. People should watch the full 10+ minutes (this one is 15 minutes), not just...

...a 59 second snippet from FOX (!!!)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/bill-clinton-black-lives-matter-protesters/index.html

[Else You Are Mad]

57. Bill is just using RW smear talking points!!!

His smirk while saying what he did is sickening....

[quantumjunkie]

58. K&R

[RashaMZak]

59. I think

maybe time Hillary brings Bill to heel until after the campaign.

[whatchamacallit]

65. JUST IMAGINE Hillteam's reaction if this was Bernie...

Just fucking imagine...

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

66. The front page of GDP would be flooded with calls that Sanders is racist and he needs to drop out nt

[NWCorona]

83. And it's pretty quiet in regards to people supporting this.

[whatchamacallit]

91. I think back to the "Not good enough, Bernie!" and NRN days...

No matter how fair and accommodating Bernie tried to be, Hillary supporters scrutinized every word, look, and gesture and found a way to twist it into racial insensitivity. Now we're here, and no matter what real tone deafness is displayed, Hillteam will give Billary a free pass.

[Bobbie Jo]

113. Welcome to DU!

You're a quick study.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

126. I saw the GDP earlier today...

It was spammed with posts about Qualified-gate including calls that he is sexist and needs to drop out.

[Bohemianwriter]

67. Why don't you also talk about the failed war on drugs, Bill?

The system that created those "superpredators"?

Why don't you talk about your own lack of empathy and willingness to walk over corpses to get what you want?

[desmiller]

68. Hillary's biggest liability at work.

[Basement Beat]

70. Disgusting.

So tired of us being used as a political football during election time.

[closeupready]

72. Did he say, 'not so long ago, you'd be carrying my bags'?

[CoffeeCat]

74. This was today (Thursday) in Philly?

And these were "Black Lives Matter" protesters?

I wish there was more video.

Bill really screwed up. He just admitted that the Superpredator word was about black youth, when Hillary denied that.

[pa28]

80. Remember when black lives mattered period to Clinton supporters?

Pepperidge Farms remembers . . .

[NWCorona]

94. I'm trying to find more info as well

Coverage is slowly coming to light.

[Land of Enchantment]

77. Seems Slick Willie has a gift of the boomerang effect

when he stumps for Hillie. It backfires, bigtime.

[azmom]

79. Bill uses black on black crime for his failures.

He made a horrendous error and can't own up to it.

[Robbins]

81. disgraceful

he just makes me regret voting for him in 1992 and 1998 and defending him against impeachment.

Defending superpredaters remarks terrable.and he just admitted crime bill was about black youths.

trying to deny wellfare reform hurt all people.

he sounds like republicans talking about black youths.

[closeupready]

89. lol, super-rich, super-powerful, and THIS is really who he is.

Yuck.

[Motown_Johnny]

96. From 0:24 to 0:30 you can see his face and he is smiling.

Boy, he was just loving that.


The argument was bad enough, but that smirk on his face is beyond the pale.


I think PA just got a little tougher for Hillary.

[frylock]

98. The Southern states have already voted.

There is no longer a need to pander to black voters.

[restorefreedom]

133. ding. ding. nt

[Zen Democrat]

168. Three dings.

[restorefreedom]

183. :) nt

[vintx]

194. Yep. That's it exactly. nt

[one_voice]

102. He said..

for those that can't watch the video.

"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13 year old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out onto the street to murder other African American children. Maybe you thought they were good citizens, she didn't, she didn't. You are defended the people who kill the lives you say matter. Tell the truth you are defending the people who cause young people to go out and take guns, there was a 13 year old girl in Washington DC was planning her own ? How would you do it?.....onto the welfare reform it ends

I think the punishment for the fuckers that do this should be extremely harsh. Leave the kids alone.

Lupe...

[whatchamacallit]

108. Revisionism. Too bad he's defending something other than Hillary's original statement.

[NWCorona]

117. Do you know what the percentage of people locked up under the crime bill

That committed what Bill and you are talking about?

[one_voice]

121. I was talking about the gang leaders..

that put guns in the hands of kids--it wasn't a direct comment to that bill.

It was a general comment.

[NWCorona]

123. But you can't gloss over my point

If 99.9% of the people locked up aren't of the type character that was used to push this bill then that's a huge problem.

[one_voice]

124. ok

[grasswire]

103. "See these other signs? This is what's the matter."

What the heck is he trying to say there?

This is what's the matter -- that black people are protesting the first black president?

This is what's the matter -- what???

[grasswire]

106. Now WE KNOW that Bill's buttons can be pushed.

He is a weak spot in the campaign.

I wonder what he could be pushed to say?

[kgnu_fan]

107. omg

[peacebird]

110. Tweeted.

[CharlotteVale]

111. That was ugly and disturbing. He's lost it.

[carolinayellowdog]

144. The "it" he has lost includes millions who voted for him twice

myself included-- after the dogwhistling of 2008 I had semi-recovered from my disgust, but now NEVER can I see or hear him without horror

[Truprogressive85]

114. Hello everyone ! its been a long time :)

When my white brothers and sisters(Bernie supporters) were saying The Clintons only use Black ppl , HRC suppoters called them racist, had no clue what goes on in the black community, how dare they

Today we are witnessing how Clinton use blk folk for power and that is all




1. Bill Clinton say What about about Black and Black crim - conservative talking point

2. Bill Clinton say what about Africa - which he ignored Rwanada guess he was busy ?

3. Notice Flint is no longer talk about by HRC

4. They left the south so they don't care about the black vote


- Signed a Tru Progressive

[NWCorona]

119. We also can't forget how Hillary said that Africa needs to get over colonialism

As that was so long ago.

[Truprogressive85]

130. yes lets not forget that

[azmom]

146. What? She actually said that? N/t

[NWCorona]

148. Yup!

[azmom]

149. Yikes.

Thanks for the link.

[NWCorona]

150. No problem!

[840high]

207. +100

[me b zola]

115. That's a whole lot of train-wreck there

And I am not speaking about the brave young people who are protesting.

From the tiny crowd that the former president was able to assemble for his wife to the"you said what?" nature of Clinton's remarks about the protesters and the crime bill that they wanted him to address. Just damn.

The gig is up, Bill & Hillary. We see you.

[Prism]

127. Should I wait for the outrage here?

*glances at clock*

Wait, no, doesn't matter. A Clinton said that.

Always nice to watch a white Southern man condescend to the African American community and get into black on black crime.

"Hopped up on crack."

Oh lord, lol.

Just, LOL.

[MisterP]

128. the Deep South's done: they can go sit on a boiled egg as far as the Clintons care

[HereSince1628]

139. Might he be looking for help there in November?

[BillZBubb]

190. No problem! Who are they going to vote for? Trump? Cruz?

That's the Clinton's game plan. They believe people don't really have an alternative.

[djean111]

136. There is nothing you can try to hang on Bernie that will make Hillary look any better. Nothing.

She would still revel in war, killing, fracking, cluster bombs, regime change.

Plus, this particular meme has had its run, and is pointless here.

Oh, and 'bye, since you evidently just joined today just to say this.

[arcane1]

147. Trollin' trollin' trollin'....

Ever have an original thought?

[BlindTiresias]

154. Desperate

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. When I came home CNN was running that

video like that is good for eyes on screen

[ecstatic]

174. Too bad BernieBros don't want to have a serious discussion of the crime bill that Sanders voted for

along with all the other democrats, including the CBC. I lived in one of the roughest parts of Brooklyn and people were desperate for solutions on how to address crime. Calling the 911 was almost a waste of time, as those committing the crime would be long gone before any cops arrived.

That being said, the bill had unintended consequences that demand immediate attention and a fix.

Also, the only people linking Hillary's use of the word "superpredators" to blacks are Bernie supporters, and it's EXTREMELY offensive. But, by all means, keep it up. You're ensuring that the superdelegates will pass on Bernie's argument to flip sides.

[Kalidurga]

179. You mean the one that was to protect people from domestic violence?

That bill. The one if he voted against it he would be accused of a war against women? That bill? Try again.

[ecstatic]

187. He rejected other bills that had good things in it. Like the immigration bill. Like the

bill with the actual funds for the auto bailout. Maybe you should try again?

[Kalidurga]

188. Were those bills the topic of this thread?

Was what you wrote an answer to my question?

[ecstatic]

191. um, you justified Bernie's vote for the crime bill by saying he only

voted for it because there was something good in the bill. You can't have it both ways.

[Kalidurga]

195. So now you don't want to talk about the crime bill?

You still didn't answer the question on the elements to protect people from domestic abuse yet either. I think you don't want to talk about this crime bill.

[ChiciB1]

189. Will Check This Out Later... Heard A Few Words, But My Back Doesn't

like me doing much right now. Thanks for posting.

[TheFarS1de]

192. They both have that magic touch

With friends like this who needs enemies ?

[MisterP]

202. it's the "beehive in the jockeys" pose that she takes

the votaries of course say how dare, HOW DARE people mention that BLM only feels the need to protest one campaign: it's just MORE proof that Sanderismo is RACIST

[SHRED]

196. Weren't record numbers of non-violent Cannabis users locked up under his watch?

He's got a lot of nerve.

[arcane1]

201. And they stopped receiving welfare, thereby making "welfare reform" a success n/t

[Sunsky]

197. As I wrote in your other post

He is correct. When your baby walks out on your front porch and is shot to death because of gang violence- tell those family members that the gang members aren't super predators. He who feels it knows it. Some of us understands and share the same sentiment.

[leftofcool]

198. Willy! Yer back!

[Warren DeMontague]

205. He really should stop wagging his finger at people.

its not a good look.

[840high]

208. Yes - especially when Hillary made it so

clear how it annoys here. It won't be a happy dinner for them tonight.

[NorthCarolina]

218. He's defending his legacy. nt

[rhett o rick]

221. And under the Clinton bus goes Black Lives Matters along with Green Peace. nm