2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHas ANYONE changed who they support since Sanders won Wisconsin?
Hill-Bots, are you still supporting Hillary? Bernie-Bots, are you still supporting Bernie?
I'll-Vote-Dem-No-Matter-Who-Bots, are you still supporting whoever finally gets the nomination? (And yes, Hill-and-Bernie-Bots can be in this category, too.)
Have we hit the point in the process where either candidate could suck blood from a puppy, a kitten and a baby bunny on stage while chanting an incantation to the almighty dark lord of the blueberry pancake, and we would STILL support them?
I'm curious - Vote!
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Yes, the light has dawned! How could I have been so blind? | |
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Never changing my mind! All hail the dark lord of blueberry pancakes! | |
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You are all crazy. I don't know why I even post here anymore. Ooh! Lolcats! | |
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Meh. It's a discussion board. Primary passions become a party love fest at the convention. | |
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Scolding Other: How can you make light of these life-and-death matters? | |
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Tattletale Other: You called my side "bots" so I'm going to hit Alert. Nyah, Nyah! | |
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Other Other: These are Dumb choices. I will comment with a better one. | |
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JimDandy
(7,318 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)I really don't think we are really changing any minds in GDP at this point - just reinforcing our "selection bias" no matter which way we lean.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,180 posts)Besides, "Robb is a dingbat" and "I like to vote" weren't offered as options.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)it really looks like the Dark Lord of Blueberry Pancakes is the real winner!
Buns_of_Fire
(17,180 posts)But I DO think tossing in blueberry pancakes gave that option an unfair advantage.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)but the bad loser did.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)No judgment - asking. I know I have selection bias at this point. I just don't believe what one side says without triple checking and then becoming satisfied even more that I am right and the other folks are idiots.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)That is to say: my candidate preference has turned into a candidate orientation, or has become a comviction with all the vigour of a recent convert.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I just think he should take a day or two to chill out.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And "if it bleeds, it leads" so suddenly our side is getting some attention.
I wonder if they BOTH planned that in time for New York?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Bernie has momentum and Hillary is on a losing streak.
If Bernie wins New York, the momentum gets stronger and the losing streak gets longer.
Hillary going negative was a big mistake. Negative attacks hurt the attacker too. Her favorable numbers and honesty numbers are so low, she can't absorb the hit. Bernie has much better numbers and his supporters are far more likely to be turned off by the mud slinging.
Hillary may not get as many people to the polls as she might have under better circumstances. That could make a difference.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)convention is over? Or do you think the negative emotions during a fierce primary will fracture the party permanently?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She is not a Progressive and should not be leading a Progressive party.
I would hope that her loss would give more leverage to people who believe the party exists to serve progressive ideals and reduce the power of the party loyalists who will sell out those ideals for their own benefit.
I honestly don't know what will happen after the convention is over. I will vote against the (R) nominee no matter who that is and no matter who the (D) is. I always turn out and will vote against the (R).
If Bernie is the nominee I will turn out and gladly vote in favor of the (D).
When my vote is counted, it won't matter how happy I was casting it. But that is just me. As I said, I am a sure thing to turn out and vote.
Many people do not always turn out to vote. There in lies the problem. If we can't turn people out, we are in trouble. Not only in 2016 but in all other cycles as well. 2020 will bring a new census and new redistricting. That will be an important election and arguably more important than this one.
If we need to take the loss now to regroup for 2020, then so be it. SCOTUS is the one thing this cycle that makes that decision hard to make, but there will be SCOTUS issues after 2020 also. I honestly see no way that Hillary could possibly win a second term. She is only viable now because the (R) candidates are so terrible. The novelty of having the first woman President will wear off long before her first term is over.
We are taking a huge risk if she is our nominee. Bernie is the much safer bet.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)I thought I was talking about cute little furry bunnies, but if your brain immediately went toward Hugh Hefner, you might be a little more ... aware? ... than I am?
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I think I will have to ask the bird. I mean the parrot. She watches CNN with me. I am sure she has an opinion
On edit, she is bribable. She loves hot cakes and waffles.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)"I find your lack of faith...disturbing."
Or is "it's a trap!" the better analogy?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And now I better go vote, Connie will only get that vote. Seriously, she squeaked when that bird landed on the lectern. I think she is a fan of the Finch
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Is I no longer can support one of them in any way.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Thousands of posts (and posters) and not one word any of us have typed has inspired anyone toward "the light of a different viewpoint".
But we are still enjoying a sense of community because all of us care passionately about the issues we believe will impact the future of our country.
I don't know whether to be amused or simply awed by our participation here!
senz
(11,945 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)We are political geeks, we are better informed, politically, than most Americans, most of us have strong feelings for and attachments to one of the Democratic candidates and we are unlikely to change our allegiance lightly or easily.
Therefore, this poll is unlikely to be very revelatory.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)It will be interesting to see how this energy gets transformed into commitment against Republicans in the general. It will be a test of leadership - anyone who can herd the cats of the party can surely lead the nation.
senz
(11,945 posts)It can be the sign of a demagogue.
As a Bernie supporter, I can tell you that, though I hold Bernie is highest esteem, my passion for his candidacy is based in my concern for the future of the country.
mythology
(9,527 posts)It's so childish and petty in my book.
I'll still vote for either.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)of the party.
rock
(13,218 posts)But I love your polls which are are about mine.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)we'll be buying drinks and dancing like maniacs by the convention!