2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Hits Hillary Clinton On 'Panama Papers' Tax Dodging
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In a statement released on Thursday, Sanders criticized Secretary Clinton for supporting the Panama Free Trade Agreement as Secretary of State. He said that the agreement, which he opposed, opened the door to greater tax evasion by Americans in the notorious tax haven.
I dont think you are qualified if you supported the Panama free trade agreement, something I very strongly opposed, which has made it easier for wealthy people and corporations all over the world to avoid paying taxes owed to their countries, Sanders said on Wednesday a rally at Temple University in Pennsylvania.
In 2011, Sanders argued against the agreement on the Senate floor, saying that it would make a bad situation much worse. At the time, Clinton advocated for the agreementan about-face from her opposition to it during her presidential campaign just four years earlier.
Sanders recent comments come in the wake of the release of the Panama Papers, a trove of documents revealing the offshore accounts in tax havens held by more than one hundred public officials around the globe. On Tuesday, Sanders pledged to terminate the Panama Free Trade Agreement within the first six months of his presidency.
http://fortune.com/2016/04/07/sanders-clinton-panama/
Hillary had "an about face" here and I believe more shoes are yet to drop on this issue.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Thanks Uncle Joe!
kennetha
(3,666 posts)The Tax Information Exchange Agreement includes a clause, Article 5, that specifies the terms of information sharing between the two countries on tax related matters:
The competent authority of the requested Party shall provide upon request by the competent authority of the requesting Party information for the purposes referred to in Article 1 of this Agreement. Such information shall be exchanged without regard to whether the requested Party needs such information for its own tax purposes or the conduct being investigated would constitute a crime under the laws of the requested Party if it had occurred in the territory of the requested Party.
The Article goes on to make clear that Mossack Fonsecas type of services would particularly be included in the information request:
Each Party shall ensure that it has the authority, for the purposes referred to in Article 1 of this Agreement and subject to Article 2 of this Agreement, to obtain and provide, through its competent authority and upon request:
(a) information held by banks, other financial institutions, and any person, including nominees and trustees, acting in an agency or fiduciary capacity; and
(b) information regarding the ownership of companies, partnerships, trusts, foundations, and other persons, including . ownership information on all such persons in an ownership chain; in the case of trusts, information on settlors, trustees and beneficiaries; and in the case of foundations, information on founders, members of the foundation council and beneficiaries.
If Panama had ever been an attractive destination for American offshore storage of funds, this agreement shut the door on that possibility.
What a cheap and desperate demagogue Bernie has become.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Waiting for a Friday night news drop?
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Can't wait !
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)going on as we speak. I did read a post that in 2011 a law was passed to thwart U.S. money going to Panama. Belize and the Caymans are still bustlling with activity.
The 1 percent didn't get there by crumbling with a silly law or two. Always someone willing to help.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)There is enough of a record from 08 to show she DOES not mean what she says while running for Pres.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Why is he unable to match her?
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Tax disclosures are something expected of all serious presidential candidates.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)as opposed to actual positions cares about speeches given behind closed doors for over $200,000 a pop.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Speeches themselves are an issue, transcripts just an excuse to highlight that issue
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)that "no bank should be too big to fail" in those speeches?
Did she argue against monopolies and trusts?
Did Hillary argue against vast wealth and income inequality?
Did Hillary propose raising the minimum wage and bemoan our shrinking middle class?
Did Hillary argue against unfettered free trade agreements or raise concerns about climate change?
Did Hillary's speeches square with her public pronouncements?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)and goes along with the status quo...no matter what. And ever one with working fingers here knows exactly what it's about.
The current is to attack the messenger because it's not the MSM...while we all agree they are totally partisan.
Boggles the mind, but the River of de Nile runs deeply .
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Speeches are never asked for. Kerry gave speeches. Collin Powell, George Bush.. Taxes on the other hand are expected. It's disturbing.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)No matter the microscope applied: The picture of Bernie shows integrity.
When it comes to Banksters, the picture of the Clintons shows UBS -- from the repeal of Glass-Steagall with Sen. Phil Gramm to working in Wealth Management with UBS Vice Chairman Phil Gramm and lackey George W Bush.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)Perhaps a more accurate term would be exposed enough to the light to see she needs to change tune to win an election.
We cannot afford her bad judgement. Experience, yes, in poor and opportunist judgement.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)of really bad decisions.
But let's not forget that Bernie's been in the House & Senate for a very long time. He's had a much wider range of experience backed up by a history of better judgement than the anointed one.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Hardly the "experience" the USA needs at this critical junction.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)You're on it today UJ ! [
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511672077
Whether US politicians are named or not, the kind of arrangements that allow the global super-rich to hide their wealth only exist with our leaders consent
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Peace to you.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Pennsylvania and New York: this is what happens when Goldman Sachs pays a candidate $650,000 for one speech. 9/11 and a gender? No: trade deals with tax havens. Greed running rampant.