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fried eggs

(910 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:35 PM Apr 2016

If you take action based on a newspaper headline, you might not be qualified for President

of this country. A qualified person knows that headlines are oftentimes provocative. Meant to get clicks.

A qualified person would, upon seeing a troubling headline, take time to read the actual article and gather more facts before responding and taking action.

A qualified person who failed to do those things would apologize once he realized his mistake.

Our country deserves a well informed, responsible leader who waits for all the facts before taking action or making irresponsible statements. The last thing we need is someone who is ill informed and impulsive, like Trump.

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If you take action based on a newspaper headline, you might not be qualified for President (Original Post) fried eggs Apr 2016 OP
Well, that probably knocks Donald Trump out... brooklynite Apr 2016 #1
Why does incompetence make you qualified? Joob Apr 2016 #5
Against the civl rights act? Why are you making shit up? That is repulsive. bettyellen Apr 2016 #21
Hillary said Bernie hadn't done his homework, not that he's unqualified. After Bernie quoted a WaPo riversedge Apr 2016 #2
Oh horseshit... Armstead Apr 2016 #22
If you get suckered in to a war vote by a two-bit wet-brain ex-drunk dim-wit, you might not ... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #3
You can't seriously be trying to equate the President of the United States lying to a seated Lucinda Apr 2016 #7
No. Are you? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #16
2000+ of her constituents had been mudered, and she didn't fly off the handle Lucinda Apr 2016 #18
Wut? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #19
No. Of course not. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #23
Who did you vote for in 2004? brooklynite Apr 2016 #8
The lesser of two evils. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #9
She wasn't "suckered" anymore than the majority voting for it. It was a tough decision and for Jitter65 Apr 2016 #15
Oh please Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #17
Yep. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #4
Hillary doubled down silenttigersong Apr 2016 #6
YES!! anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #10
19 REASONS TO INVADE IRAQ Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #11
After great thought, Hillary makes ANOTHER bad decision? nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #13
And what was it that her campaign said on TV about their next plan to disqualify Bernie, etc.????? pdsimdars Apr 2016 #12
When a campaign surrogate is on CNN & CNN plays a clip of report of Hillary campaign planning on jillan Apr 2016 #14
If you taken an action based on a steady stream of smears and innuendos... Armstead Apr 2016 #20
Did you support John Kerry is 2004? Avalux Apr 2016 #24

Joob

(1,065 posts)
5. Why does incompetence make you qualified?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

Or was the vote on Iraq not incompetent

Or the Panama Trade Agreement, TPP

Or supporting a system that allows these legal loopholes until recently, in fact still uses Superpacs, still gets funneled money through the people she swears she'll fight. How's that not incompetent.

How about we dig deeper, when she was against the Civil Rights Act when she was younger?

Poor security on emails, not incompetent?

Her judgement, is not so great. She's a follower, not a leader. She'll make the right choice after it's trending.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. Against the civl rights act? Why are you making shit up? That is repulsive.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

And the opposite of what she describes going to the convention in Florida. What bullshit.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
2. Hillary said Bernie hadn't done his homework, not that he's unqualified. After Bernie quoted a WaPo
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

I was wondering where to post this tweet--and there you are!



DemsAgainstBernie ?@DemsAgainstBern 2h2 hours ago

Hillary said Bernie hadn't done his homework, not that he's unqualified. After Bernie quoted a WaPo headline as a HRC quote, she has a point

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. Oh horseshit...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

I suppose her campaign staff and surrogates who have been saying nasty things are separate from the ever-so-correct legalistic candidate.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
3. If you get suckered in to a war vote by a two-bit wet-brain ex-drunk dim-wit, you might not ...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

... be qualified to be President.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
7. You can't seriously be trying to equate the President of the United States lying to a seated
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

member of Congress with someone flying off the handle over a news item that hadn't been vetted. Seriously?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
16. No. Are you?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

One cost hundreds of thousands of lives, turned Iraq in to a unstable nightmare on earth, un stabilized the Middle East, created ISIS, cost trillions of US dollars, killed 5,000 service members, and wounded countless others.

The other is a fart in a skillet.

These people knew




This is who tricked her




Hell, even 1994 Cheney knew.

https://m.



Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
18. 2000+ of her constituents had been mudered, and she didn't fly off the handle
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

and scream for war.

She voted for leverage. She could not have been more clear that negotiating leverage was EXACTLY why she voted as she did. As did many others. That vote had horrible consequences, but neither Hillary or Kerry would have ever taken advantage of the power that was given to them. Bush, or rather Cheney, did. And the lie that prompted her vote was a deliberate one. She did not vote for war.

I wouldn't have made that choice, obviously you wouldn't have either. But up to that point, those who did still expected the POTUS to act in the best interest of the United States. They still expected the executive to act with honor. They quickly learned they were mistaken, and many, including Hillary, became outspoken critics of the abuse of power that the exec had been given.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
15. She wasn't "suckered" anymore than the majority voting for it. It was a tough decision and for
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

to make light of this tough decision is shameful. Furthermore, no one know how much those who voted for that war suffer pain from their vote. She made a decision based on the information she was told and information she searched out. She was wrong and later said her vote was a mistake. Dropping the bomb on Japan was a mistake also. People are fallible. Hillary did not take her vote lightly. It is easy for armchair generals and armchair politicians to criticize when they are not faced with real tough challenges. 9/11 was a game changer for many..

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/02/hillary_clinton_told_the_truth_about_her_iraq_war_vote.html

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
17. Oh please
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

Everyone with half a brain (and not running for office) knew exactly what was going on.

The neon cons and PNACers wanted a war in Iraq before 9/11.

Yeah 9/11 was a game changer all right. Bush and Cheney said "nine eleven Iraq" so many times, they had 67% of the US population believing Iraq was responsible for 9/11. Some leaders on our side had the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the bull shit and others didn't want to be caught on the wrong side of a ticker-tape homecoming parade for our quick and easy wonderful little war.


Yeah, she admitted her "mistake" - great. But this thread is about Sanders not being qualified for President because he said mean things about HRC at a rally.


A little perspective is needed, IMO.

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
6. Hillary doubled down
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

On a hit piece.Does Hillary Clinton think Sen.Sanders is stupid?Then her surrogates trot out the sexism card ,it is like the"Emperors new Cloths"dirty tricks, and the media enables it,they love fights.
 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
10. YES!!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

He should know better, having been peddling talking points about free stuff without any substance behind them for months. Always dig a bit deeper before throwing your support behind a candidate, or believing a headline.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
12. And what was it that her campaign said on TV about their next plan to disqualify Bernie, etc.?????
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is known as being the least trustworthy by the American people in poll after poll. Who do you think people are going to believe? Poor Hillary, a known liar, coming up with yet another lie to lie her way into the nomination. Yea, sounds like a winning plan.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. When a campaign surrogate is on CNN & CNN plays a clip of report of Hillary campaign planning on
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:01 PM
Apr 2016

disqualifying your candidate, you have every right to act.
When the Hillary campaign sends out talking points to media on talking points to attack that candidate, you have every right to act.

But go right ahead and cherry pick what lead up to this.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. If you taken an action based on a steady stream of smears and innuendos...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

you're fighting fire with fire.



Avalux

(35,015 posts)
24. Did you support John Kerry is 2004?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

If so, what did you think of the way he handled the horrid swiftboating?

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