We were "dead broke" my ass...

[Playinghardball]

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. Rich people have a different view of what constitutes broke, not unique to Clinton's

But it is informative that someone who has so much in comparison is so used to having it that they could consider that being broke.

This is a reflection of our society as a whole, the haves have too much, it is that simple.

[msanthrope]

3. 5 million in debt....McAuliffe secured the house loan for them. Nt

[nichomachus]

37. Just one more instance of the Clintons gaming the system

You try to get a loan on a mansion when you're deep in debt. Aint. Gonna. Happen.

But when you're royalty, strange things come your way.

[snagglepuss]

49. In their first year out of the White House they made $12.3 million

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/06/09/the-clintons-left-the-white-house-in-debt-wait-what/

[msanthrope]

2. Dude...that house was bought when Terry McCaullife secured the loan for them.

They were 5 mil in debt.

[Fuddnik]

5. Yeah, and Donald Trump was broke until he borrowed a mil from daddy.

[msanthrope]

8. They were broke...legal bills. And they were lucky to have help. Nt

[astrophuss42]

9. Legal bills.... What a shame.... eom

[msanthrope]

18. Yes....Ken Starr and his bullshit. The Republicans tried to unseat a popular, elected

President. He paid for it.

[Yurovsky]

46. And Bill losing his law license was totally unwarranted?

Sorry, sexually harassing interns and subordinates is NEVER OK.

He was lucky he didn't go to jail, or was ruined financially.

But I'm sure he & HRC are glad to see you care. I mean, seriously, who could possibly live on a presidential pension and a U.S. Senator's salary, and a few million in book fees? I hope they had enough government cheese to eat through that cold, desperate winter of 2001...

[msanthrope]

54. Eh....he paid his penance. Nt

[Yurovsky]

60. Even if it was your daughter or sister?

These were real people. And just like in the case of Bill Cosby, when you get a torrent of accusations, there is probably a very high likelihood that the person is guilty of some pretty horrible stuff.

Of course Team Clinton just attacked the women. Bimbo eruptions, I think they called them. Gee, that's pro-woman, isn't it?

I believe Bill has a very serious problem with women. And I think Hillary has turned a blind eye to it, out of either love, loyalty, or ambition. If it were my daughter or sister, there would be hell to pay.

[msanthrope]

62. Who did he harass? Monica Lewinsky was consensual. Stupid thing to do,

But consensual. As for the rest.....I worked for the man. Always a gentleman, and women liked him. Still do.

[jack_krass]

74. She was 22 yo intern and he was POTUS

I dont consider this consentual really. Its a case of a man (ab)using his considerable power over a young, inexperienced woman for his sick, perverse needs.

By defending and rationalizing this behavior you are condoning it.

[msanthrope]

75. Oh, lordy....women have agency, and Monica knew exactly

what she was doing.

[Politicalboi]

13. The Clinton Foundation?

I'm sure they were NEVER broke. They just beg for money from the poor. They're just like evangelicals with the tears to boot.

[msanthrope]

14. Not in existence at the time. Nt

[TheFarseer]

30. She had to give speeches like all week to pay for that! Nt

[Blue_In_AK]

10. Dead broke is when you don't have any money

and no way to get any. If you have access to that big a loan to buy that big a house, you're not really dead broke.

[msanthrope]

11. 5 mil in debt, they borrowed the money from McAuliffe....And they were lucky.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/03/nyregion/with-some-help-clintons-purchase-a-white-house.html?pagewanted=all

[Blue_In_AK]

15. Yes, I would say "beyond lucky."

Not too many "dead broke" people have access to those kinds of friends.

[msanthrope]

17. Absolutely. Nt

[Blue_In_AK]

19. I wish I had when I was dead broke.

The best I could do was float checks with my sister-in-law, and you can't even get away with that anymore.

[msanthrope]

20. Me too! But I wouldn't want those legal bills! Nt

[Blue_In_AK]

21. I hear ya.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

70. So why hide behind the bullshit?

[nichomachus]

38. So you're saying that McAuliffe owns them

That's the way crime syndicates work.

[msanthrope]

41. I think Bill wrote a check from his book sales. Nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

69. This is what dead broke looks like.

[nc4bo]

4. "You're asking me to say I have never, I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will"

LIE

[msanthrope]

6. 5 million in debt....McAuliffe secured the house loan for them. Nt

[nc4bo]

12. I will take a Clinton definition of "dead broke" any day over my definition of dead broke.

or any American living pay check to pay check, out looking for a job to keep the lights on and at least a meal on the table.

Any Day.

[msanthrope]

16. Oh....I could do without the legal bills. But they were lucky, and they knew it. Nt

[Go Vols]

22. Dead broke and lucky

means you have 2 days of ramen noodles left.

[msanthrope]

25. They were lucky and they made the most of their opportunities. Nt

[840high]

43. Now I see why they

needed White House furniture.

[msanthrope]

45. Oh please...1999 called. The RW meme generator is stuck! Nt

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

59. Didn't they have to return the furniture/pay back for some of it. nt

[msanthrope]

63. They did....live 8 years in a place, it's easy to forget who owns what, what's a gift to you...also,

Not like they did their own packing. Big deal.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

64. Well then it is isn't a Right Wing lie, it is true.

The other commentator was just being tongue in cheek.

[rbrnmw]

68. they also stole all W's from the keyboard

[progressoid]

31. Not luck. It's a racket.

Luck involves chance. They did just happen to stumble upon a few million dollars. That was a coordinated endeavor among the wealthy and powerful.

[msanthrope]

33. I would lucky they were able to recover from what the RW

tried to do to them. They nearly succeeded.hh

[progressoid]

52. Plus a multi-million dollar book deal. Nearly a million dollars a year in Prez pension benefits.

Millions in speaking fees etc.

I can't think of anyone who believed they were "dead broke". I doubt even Bill thought it. It was a temporary debt quickly paid off by wealthy cronies and deals that 99.9% of America aren't privy to.

[msanthrope]

53. They were lucky and they made the most of their opportunities. Nt

[progressoid]

61. Yeah...

[yourpaljoey]

7. they could barely even afford to heat the pool...

and she ran out of treats for her riding horses for three whole minutes!!!

[libtodeath]

23. How many dead broke people can get a loan secured for them?

[msanthrope]

26. McAuliffe put up his own money....that's how it got secured. Nt

[libtodeath]

34. Sure,most dead broke people have a million dollar benefactor

happens every day.

[msanthrope]

44. They were lucky and they made the most of their opportunities. Nt

[libtodeath]

48. Yeah,real "lucky"

[dana_b]

24. "Hillionaire"

[msanthrope]

27. 5 million in debt....McAuliffe secured the house loan for them. Nt

[rickford66]

50. give it up

Dead broke means sleeping in your car parked in a WalMart parking lot. You pick up cans and bottles for food and gas. You wash up in the burger rest room. I've seen those people and have given them money. So stop with the "dead broke" nonsense.

[JimDandy]

55. That's a good one!! n/t

[bkkyosemite]

28. She was on the board of Monsanto and thinks GMO's are wonderful..is that organic

garden food I see growing.

[tammywammy]

40. She was never on the board for Monstanto. n/t

[msanthrope]

42. Wrong. But Tad Devine was a consultant for them. Nt

[Ed Suspicious]

29. Is that an equestrian jumping course West of the pool house?

How opulent.

[progressoid]

35. No, I think those are trellises for growing vegetables.

They couldn't afford to eat out so they had to grow their own food.

[Ed Suspicious]

39. Too bad their crops didn't come in.

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[anotherproletariat]

32. Everything is relative...my parents are complaining about being broke

because they have two kids in private colleges. But they clearly are not broke. For many people that word just means having used up all your savings. I agree its a little Romney-ish, and possibly insensitive, but the point can certainly be understood when placed in the proper context. At least by someone who is able to understand context.

[Kip Humphrey]

36. I can tell... they could only afford 3 horse jumps.

[NorthCarolina]

47. Depends on your perspective of "broke". To a Billionaire,

who takes a loss ending in becoming a just lowly Millionaire might say "Damn, I'm dead broke".

[Betty Karlson]

51. $250,000 a year is nearly poor, you know?

At least, that is what the GOP and Third Way would like us to believe.

(Unless the discussion is about the minium wage, in which case single digit hourly wages are just fine - and should probably stay low to compete with all those even lower-wages countries with which we are supposedly eager to enter a race to the bottom called TPP and TTIP.)

[felix_numinous]

56. HRC is highly skilled

at keeping the gravy trains running on time, that we can all agree on. ~~
$$$$$$...$$$$$$...$$$$$$...$$$$$$

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

57. Isn't that the kind of crib that all "dead broke" folks live in?

[Lizzie Poppet]

58. Well, sure. I mean, moral bankruptcy counts, right? (nm)

[2cannan]

73. Good one! nt

[TheSarcastinator]

65. there are millions of hard working Americans

who would LOVE to be that type of "dead broke".

[TSIAS]

66. I'm not an expert in banking

Would it be that hard to get a loan, considering each one would write memoirs that would earn them millions? Doesn't an ex-president get some sort of pension and public housing if they had nowhere to live.

I understand that the Clintons had debt, but their type of broke is different than the average joe living paycheck to paycheck.

[Bad Thoughts]

72. When people fall over themselves to give you credit, you are not broke. eom.

[CharlotteVale]

67. It's just not possible to be more out of touch than she is.

[litlbilly]

71. I would love to be that dead broke:)

[SoLeftIAmRight]

76. i have never been that broke - lol

they have no shame