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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:53 PM Apr 2016

If HRC had just said "of course Bernie is qualified" when Scarborough repeatedly asked her...

...none of this would have happened.

There was no good reason for her NOT to say that.

She should apologize for refusing to say that.

She knows what she did there was wrong.

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If HRC had just said "of course Bernie is qualified" when Scarborough repeatedly asked her... (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2016 OP
K&R GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Or, Bernie could have shown some dignity in his response. If only... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2
Bernie spoke the truth with dignity.... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #9
"hillbullies"? Really? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #13
I was going with the Bankerly Hillbullies....or maybe the Brazenly Hillbullies.... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #22
@BernieSanders LIED & now is eating 3 Pinocchio's for lunch riversedge Apr 2016 #17
Hillary is impatient liberal from boston Apr 2016 #30
Of course that wasn't going to happen, revbones Apr 2016 #3
Truth northernsouthern Apr 2016 #25
No, she doesn't know, what decides whether something is good or not in Hillary's world... daleanime Apr 2016 #4
She was still running with the meme, did not see internal numbers yet! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #5
So, because she wasn't complimentary enough for him, he lies msanthrope Apr 2016 #6
It's not about being complimentary, it's about being honest. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #16
honest? He lied about what she said!!! Has he apologized? msanthrope Apr 2016 #20
Oh stop with the legalistic parsing Armstead Apr 2016 #55
Too bad Bernie has to eat 3 Pinnochio's for lunch. ouch. riversedge Apr 2016 #24
It means nothing that you keep using the phrase "3 Pinnochio's" Ken Burch Apr 2016 #31
Exactly. Moving goal posts. scscholar Apr 2016 #27
Why take a definitive stand when not doing so can be so much more effective? polly7 Apr 2016 #7
^^^^^^^ nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #18
well she IS an attorney shanti Apr 2016 #42
Ha! Parallel thinking... drokhole Apr 2016 #8
@BernieSanders LIED & now is eating 3 Pinocchio's for lunch riversedge Apr 2016 #12
This is pedantry. refusing to answer whether he is qualified, is saying he's not. Kentonio Apr 2016 #32
Only in the Bernie fans mind..... riversedge Apr 2016 #33
She was asked 3 times, and each time she attacked him while refusing to answer the question directly Kentonio Apr 2016 #34
For the sake of argument, let's assume your allegation is valid... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #37
Who the F cares about what the Washington Post says? BillZBubb Apr 2016 #54
Do you have a link to that video clip? I haven't seen it. I didn't know what people have been JDPriestly Apr 2016 #10
Here you go. Kentonio Apr 2016 #36
OMG--you get the prize for the silliest post of the day! riversedge Apr 2016 #11
She also doesn't know if the president is a Muslim Doctor_J Apr 2016 #14
You live in the past like Sanders does with his subway tokens riversedge Apr 2016 #23
She never DID apologize for that, come to think of it. n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #35
You won't want to miss this Doctor_J Apr 2016 #47
She believes as I do that Bernie does not do his homework as she does. upaloopa Apr 2016 #15
I beleive as he does Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #19
Yet you BS supporters love to state how often she lies Sheepshank Apr 2016 #21
Because it's not her job to make him look better. all american girl Apr 2016 #26
Well, glad you asked. They blame the data theft on Hillary too Sheepshank Apr 2016 #28
That one was just crazy... all american girl Apr 2016 #29
Go Bernie liberal from boston Apr 2016 #40
The Bernie campaign sucks. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #50
Exactly! Skwmom Apr 2016 #38
Oh please, Sanders' supporters need to stop twisting themselves into pretzels Beacool Apr 2016 #39
Hillary has no obligation to prop up her opponent. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #41
Basic decency and respect is not "propping up" n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #43
Basic decency and respect only applies to Hillary? athena Apr 2016 #49
"Hillary refused, when pressed, to call Bernie "unqualified."" druidity33 Apr 2016 #62
You mean the decency that Sander's & Co has afforded her? Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #59
It has backfired. Don't sweat it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #44
She is so slimy. A master at implications & deceptions all while wearing white gloves. jillan Apr 2016 #45
So now Hillary is responsible for what comes out of Bernie's mouth? athena Apr 2016 #46
That's been a theme with the Bernie campaign Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #58
She could always walk it back Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #48
Well, Obama's a christian, "as far as I know..." PatrickforO Apr 2016 #51
Started a thread earlier today on that: Ken Burch Apr 2016 #61
Matt Lauer just gave her a 2nd chance to answer the same question awake Apr 2016 #52
When one of my children says something inappropriate... Skinner Apr 2016 #53
Nothing inappropriate was said. So, there's that. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #56
Fair enough. But for some reason the OP wants to foist the blame onto Hillary. (nt) Skinner Apr 2016 #57
Well...if you hem and haw and smirk and look away and say...''Ah" a few times... Octafish Apr 2016 #60
Who is control of Sanders statements? Sanders gave a statement which is not true. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #63
Her gut instinct is to use 'weasel words' because she knows the truth works against her. Scuba Apr 2016 #64
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
22. I was going with the Bankerly Hillbullies....or maybe the Brazenly Hillbullies....
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

would that have worked better for you?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
17. @BernieSanders LIED & now is eating 3 Pinocchio's for lunch
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:02 PM
Apr 2016

@BernieSanders LIED & now is eating 3 Pinocchio's for lunch
30. Hillary is impatient
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is impatient now & Bernie needs to be stopped. Jake Tapper & another CNN Reporter who spoke to a Clinton Campaign worker--BTW this is after Bernie won Wisconsin. http://vid1168.photobucket.com/albums/r491/sillyjillies1/Hillary%20declares%20war_zpsxmxe4yqa.mp4

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
3. Of course that wasn't going to happen,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

it's the same when she couldn't say Obama wasn't a Muslim and was Christian. Or when she couldn't say she wouldn't lie.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
25. Truth
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

Sadly the only response that works is like Bernie's America is sick and tired. You have to attack the questioner, not sit on the fence, saying well.... A weak response is such a Trump move.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
4. No, she doesn't know, what decides whether something is good or not in Hillary's world...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

is what it gets for Hillary.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. So, because she wasn't complimentary enough for him, he lies
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

about what she said, and then has his campaign double down on it......


That's not sexist. Nope...not at all.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. It's not about being complimentary, it's about being honest.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

And Bernie would have said exactly the same thing if a man had smeared him that way.

HRC isn't owed special deference because of her gender.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. honest? He lied about what she said!!! Has he apologized?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

She didn't smear him---she critiqued him. He then thought she said something she didn't.

He owes her an apology. But he won't give one.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
55. Oh stop with the legalistic parsing
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

If you don't think she knew EXACTLY what she was saying and the implications of the way she said it you are naive.

And as for claiming sexism? Hell's bells how is she ever going to act as an effective president if the whole damn world has to walk on eggs for fear of accusations of bias?

Fail on both counts.

Stick with why you think she'd be a good candidate and president.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. It means nothing that you keep using the phrase "3 Pinnochio's"
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie didn't lie.

He was talking about being morally qualified.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
7. Why take a definitive stand when not doing so can be so much more effective?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

It's exactly like what she did to Obama on the 'Is he a Christian' question ........... leave a little mis-info out there as a 'question' and people will run with it. She's very savvy and knows exactly what she's doing, imo.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
33. Only in the Bernie fans mind.....
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

DemsAgainstBernie ?@DemsAgainstBern 2h2 hours ago

Hillary said Bernie hadn't done his homework, not that he's unqualified. After Bernie quoted a WaPo headline as a HRC quote, she has a point

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
34. She was asked 3 times, and each time she attacked him while refusing to answer the question directly
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

Only a Clinton partisan could see that as anything other than an implied no.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
37. For the sake of argument, let's assume your allegation is valid...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

When Bernie's duplicity reaches this level:


Do let us know.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
54. Who the F cares about what the Washington Post says?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

They are a corporatist rag who openly support Clinton. They have as much credibility as Hillary--which is NONE.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Do you have a link to that video clip? I haven't seen it. I didn't know what people have been
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

talking about.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
15. She believes as I do that Bernie does not do his homework as she does.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie has no detail to his talking points. He cannot tell you how his proposals will get done. All he can say is the revolution will bring it about. To some of us that isn't good enough.

I said this before and it bares repeating. The difference is pragmatism vs idealism.

No he does not deserve an apology.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
19. I beleive as he does
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

That Hillary is a puppet who only shows courage when the polls suggest that she do so.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
21. Yet you BS supporters love to state how often she lies
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

She simply chose not to lie..... Why would she state out loud something she may not believe, and adds nothing substantive to either campaign or the discussion?

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
26. Because it's not her job to make him look better.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

The dude lied, this is not her fault. Own and move on. This is just stupid. What else can you blame on her, that Bernie did?

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
29. That one was just crazy...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

She is some super secret James Bond type of person....Someone on here posted that the interview was a step up, also. Something about the owner being for Hillary...I have no idea, I just had an eye roll so big I was seeing the back of my head.....

40. Go Bernie
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

You do realize that Senator Sanders & the DNC are in talks now to resolve the lawsuit filed by Senator Sanders. Please do not go there--it was quite revealing to me when Bernie was able to get a Federal Judge to hear the case on the same day that the DNC immediately backed down.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
50. The Bernie campaign sucks.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

They file a suit for not having access to the data stored at DNC. The theft was another issue altogether, that they blamed on others who tempted them and baited them and they couldn't resist. Weak sauce imho.

And how dare you try and threaten where or where I may not go in discussion on a public discussion site.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
39. Oh please, Sanders' supporters need to stop twisting themselves into pretzels
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

and justifying the unjustifiable. Sanders at a rally, not bamboozled by any reporter, called Hillary unqualified to be president.

Don't blame her. As far as I'm concerned, now the gloves are off.

athena

(4,187 posts)
49. Basic decency and respect only applies to Hillary?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:07 PM
Apr 2016

It doesn't also apply to Bernie?

Hillary refused, when pressed, to call Bernie "unqualified." Three times. But that's not enough because as a woman, her job is to praise men and make them feel better about themselves, right?

Bernie, without even being pressed, called Hillary "unqualified." Three times, if not more. He also lied about what she had said. But he's decent and respectful?

Can't you see what an extreme double standard that is?

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
62. "Hillary refused, when pressed, to call Bernie "unqualified.""
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 08:42 PM
Apr 2016

First, i'm not sure why you put qualified in quotes. Second, actually i think she refused to say he was QUALIFIED three times. Which is entirely different from what you are saying. In fact, it's the opposite.



athena

(4,187 posts)
46. So now Hillary is responsible for what comes out of Bernie's mouth?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

If Bernie says something good, it's to his credit, but if he says something stupid, it's Hillary's fault.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
58. That's been a theme with the Bernie campaign
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

Each time that they do something wrong (steal data, say Hillary is unqualified, etc.), it's somehow Hillary's fault.

THIS is what turned me against Bernie.

awake

(3,226 posts)
52. Matt Lauer just gave her a 2nd chance to answer the same question
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

MSNBC showed Matt Lauer asking her if she thought Bernie was "Qualified" to be President and she did not give a direct answer, only said that he would be better than Trump or Cruse but did not say if she thought that he was "Qualified". Interview to air on the Today show.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
53. When one of my children says something inappropriate...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

...they will often tell me that some other person said something first. I explain that we are all responsible for their own words -- other people do not force us to say the things we say.

My children are 9, 7, and 4. They understand the point I am making, even if they sometimes don't want to admit it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
60. Well...if you hem and haw and smirk and look away and say...''Ah" a few times...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

...before saying, "I don't know," most people will get the idea.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
63. Who is control of Sanders statements? Sanders gave a statement which is not true.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:05 PM
Apr 2016

Go tell Sanders not to make false statements and none of this would have happened.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
64. Her gut instinct is to use 'weasel words' because she knows the truth works against her.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Apr 2016

In this case, her weasel words are working against her too.

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