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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:56 AM Apr 2016

The Big Question at the Center of Hillary Clinton's Subway Turnstile Bungle

"Hillary Clinton took the New York City subway this morning, to show that she is a woman of the people. She swiped her MetroCard once, and the turnstile didn’t turn. She swiped it again—nothing. A third time—no dice. The debacle leaves one question in the minds of New Yorkers across the five boroughs.

The question is: Was Hillary getting a PLEASE SWIPE AGAIN or a SWIPE CARD AGAIN AT THIS TURNSTILE?"




http://gawker.com/the-big-question-at-the-center-of-hillary-clintons-subw-1769610774

I personally think this is nothing but Hillary only did this because of tokengate and it backfired. This was rookie move!
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The Big Question at the Center of Hillary Clinton's Subway Turnstile Bungle (Original Post) NWCorona Apr 2016 OP
This from a woman who has had a driver since the 90s. Skwmom Apr 2016 #1
If you see her in traffic, ask for some Grey Poupon... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #72
lol TheDormouse Apr 2016 #73
As habit, I stand out of the chute when swiping, some turnstiles have proximity sensors in them. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #91
Don't be so hard on her Depaysement Apr 2016 #2
I Thought NY Was Her Home.... global1 Apr 2016 #6
Tourist / carpet bagger beedle Apr 2016 #9
Good one CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #30
Have that happen to me all the time. One of the 99 Apr 2016 #3
I agree but usually that's with an old card that has become dirty NWCorona Apr 2016 #11
Had it happen with a brand new card too. One of the 99 Apr 2016 #13
Yes that can happen but it's rare. NWCorona Apr 2016 #24
Probably a card she found on the sidewalk. nichomachus Apr 2016 #51
I had it happen with a brand new card! LisaM Apr 2016 #54
Good God....she is so transparent. She does not ride the subway. Punkingal Apr 2016 #4
Good God... What a ridiculous OP. "This is so phony." seabeyond Apr 2016 #8
Ah so you admit when it was turned against Sanders it was phony? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #14
Actually, I think subwaygate is silly. Stockholm Syndrome is another story. seabeyond Apr 2016 #16
I see we have a new southern friend who likes to say that AA people who support Hillary have Squinch Apr 2016 #79
Ah ha. True all that. !!! Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #83
How is it ridiculous NWCorona Apr 2016 #15
Yeah, beedle Apr 2016 #17
I actually thought this OP must have been satire. polly7 Apr 2016 #20
You want me to believe she takes the subway? dr60omg Apr 2016 #5
That was one thing I actually thought about NWCorona Apr 2016 #27
was a stupid stunt-- are we really suposed to think she's a regular person because she went into the Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #7
LOL, riding the subway doesn't make you a regular person jfern Apr 2016 #87
why does he ride it? Surely he doesn't need to Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #88
A puppy dies every time we talk about this crap JackRiddler Apr 2016 #10
Hahaha the fail is strong with this one whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #12
Oh my - once again Hillary is Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #18
Sorry silenttigersong Apr 2016 #19
No--they didn't. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #21
Why the heck didn't she just buy a token? Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #22
Because unlike people who have lived in New York for a long time... JackRiddler Apr 2016 #25
Paging George Herbert Walker Bush AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #23
That's actually a widely believed urban legend. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #26
I remember the video. He held a carton of milk and marveled. roguevalley Apr 2016 #75
Yep, when a legend gets fully entrenched everyone thinks they remember it. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #84
Probably never swiped a card before. Still used to tokens and writing checks... nt revbones Apr 2016 #28
cannot wait until SNL gets their hands on this one !!! TheDormouse Apr 2016 #29
Holy shit...not a big deal but man is that goofy. Stupid ass publicity stunt jmg257 Apr 2016 #31
is this on Youtube yet? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #32
Highlights the mechanics of this type of promo suffragette Apr 2016 #33
In the next debate, She and Bernie will struggle to set the clock on their DVRs Press Virginia Apr 2016 #34
I agree but I'm a big believer in karma so I had to share it. NWCorona Apr 2016 #36
Good lord, it was a photo op ... salinsky Apr 2016 #35
I see you missed the point of my post. NWCorona Apr 2016 #38
It was a photo op TDale313 Apr 2016 #69
this reminds me of billionaire NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg's lies TheDormouse Apr 2016 #37
Anyone who rides the subway like I do everyday here knows that metro cards don't always hrmjustin Apr 2016 #39
Yes that is true and I think this really doesn't amount to much NWCorona Apr 2016 #45
No I think it is people who don't know what it is like to ride the subway everyday hrmjustin Apr 2016 #46
But the bigger issue is she doesn't relate to it NWCorona Apr 2016 #48
Awkward to someone who doesn't use a metro card on a daily basis. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #49
I agree it was a funny moment NWCorona Apr 2016 #59
Oh please use this as an argument leftynyc Apr 2016 #40
Try cleaning the mag stripe with alcohol it might work better NWCorona Apr 2016 #44
It's not like it's a big deal leftynyc Apr 2016 #62
I do think this is more funny than anything NWCorona Apr 2016 #64
Thanks leftynyc Apr 2016 #65
except real NYers don't need a handler whispering in their ear how to deal with TheDormouse Apr 2016 #47
why was she on the subway? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #81
Laugh all you want leftynyc Apr 2016 #86
what is a subway? - is that where you get a sandwich? - where do 4.3 million take a sandwich? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #93
! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #96
wow- so you are saying she is a criminal - wow SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #94
LOL - good luck with that leftynyc Apr 2016 #95
THE SUBWAY GODS HAVE SPOKEN! Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #41
Nervous Nellies Don't Know When To Stop corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #42
Hillary constantly breaks the 47th rule of power NWCorona Apr 2016 #43
Unfortunately that applies to starting wars as well. Just gotta prove bigger, stronger, more macho. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #77
Not it's not a good quality NWCorona Apr 2016 #78
Oh, she is pathetic. "Gotta go on the subway to show up Bernie and fan the flames of Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #50
I am surprised a birdie did not land on the turnstile at the same time coyote Apr 2016 #52
The Subway reacted perfectly to Hillary. / FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #53
Hillary on the subway is like Dukakis in the tank BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #55
exactly! TheDormouse Apr 2016 #68
Hillary takes the subway silenttigersong Apr 2016 #56
Too funny! peacebird Apr 2016 #57
I remember the first time I tried to use a Metrocard. MineralMan Apr 2016 #58
She has said that the last time was a few years ago and I don't doubt her NWCorona Apr 2016 #61
Nothing warms my heart more than photo-ops that go horribly awry. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #60
This incident is a microcosm of the Clinton campaign right now tabasco Apr 2016 #63
Does this happen? Yes. Is this a bad image for Hillary? Yes. nichomachus Apr 2016 #66
Karma is a bitch! Love it! jillan Apr 2016 #67
And it really instant! reformist2 Apr 2016 #82
This is very common. Happens all the time. athena Apr 2016 #70
Lol, sometimes this problem happens to even the most seasoned of us subway riders MadBadger Apr 2016 #71
Surely you don't think that Hillary is any kind of subway rider Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #74
Hillary Clinton and the subway. C'mon now! Guess she should have practiced. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #76
Her campaign is hilariously tone deaf. I love it. Prism Apr 2016 #80
She went through the turnstile, while her entourage... Ino Apr 2016 #85
I seriously doubt she would even be able to go food shopping for herself. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #89
When Clinton is doing a stunt like this we are in George W Bush territory Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #90
heh heh. I want to see her in a coin operated laundromat, a self checkout line in a grocery store, Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #92

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
72. If you see her in traffic, ask for some Grey Poupon...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

I'm pretty sure those limos mega-rich folks ride in come with it standard...

There's also a water cannon in the front grill to keep the filthy peasants away from Her Majesty...

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
91. As habit, I stand out of the chute when swiping, some turnstiles have proximity sensors in them.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

.


Certain rail systems have optical sensors to see if someone is close to the door, if so, they won't open.

This is to prevent more than one person from passing through the opening.


As routine practice, I remain out of the chute while swiping and then enter.


.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. I agree but usually that's with an old card that has become dirty
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

or magnetically weakened. That or the mag reader head is going out.

Like I said before. This isn't really a big deal other than Hillary trying to capitalize on tokengate and it backfiring.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. Yes that can happen but it's rare.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

And usually a a reader issue.

Trust me. With the volume that the NY subway has. If this was the common experience it would cause serious problems.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
54. I had it happen with a brand new card!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

And then it wouldn't let me in because it said I already swiped. I had to go talk to the lady behind the glass to let me back in at all (I just visit NY, don't ride the subway often).

In fact, I had one that wouldn't let me out for the same reason and luckily a nice New Yorker (of which there are many despite reports to the contrary) let me piggyback out with her.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
4. Good God....she is so transparent. She does not ride the subway.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

There is nothing authentic about her, or her campaign. This is so phony.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
79. I see we have a new southern friend who likes to say that AA people who support Hillary have
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

Stockholm Syndrome. That's pretty disgusting. It's giving me the Willies! Also, a strong sense of deja vu.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
15. How is it ridiculous
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

There were multiple tokengate threads within a few hours but this is ridiculous?

Refer to Newton's 3rd law.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
17. Yeah,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

didn't stop MSNBC covering it, start to finish, like it was the Prince Andrew and Princess "Fergie' wedding ... including a split screen commentator relating how the Clintons were New York "royality".

polly7

(20,582 posts)
20. I actually thought this OP must have been satire.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

Good god, is right. It's not really a winning tact, imo, unless she thinks people are really, really stupid.

Oh wait, she does.



dr60omg

(283 posts)
5. You want me to believe she takes the subway?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah yeah yeah she takes the subway from Yankee stadium all the time. In your dreams how many people were displaced off the subway for this little stunt

You can tell who is a New Yorker by listening to the accent

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
27. That was one thing I actually thought about
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016

People don't realize the impact of when Hillary moves around the city.

I'm not dogging her on that at all.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
7. was a stupid stunt-- are we really suposed to think she's a regular person because she went into the
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

subway?

jfern

(5,204 posts)
87. LOL, riding the subway doesn't make you a regular person
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:32 AM
Apr 2016

Former mayor Bloomberg rides it all the time, and he's the 8th richest person on the planet with $40 billion.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. A puppy dies every time we talk about this crap
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

instead of single payer health care, tuition-free college, the fight for $15, and the need to end interventionist wars.

And this swipe problem happens all the damn time. It's predictable, of course, since it always happens to people who are taking the subway for the first time in who knows how long (if ever), but it happens all the damn time.

Which is why TOKENS are great, and mentioning them is a winner for most New Yorkers.

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
19. Sorry
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary rides the subway,Saturday Night Live must be thrilled.How many Secret Service were around the pole? Did they clear the car?
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
25. Because unlike people who have lived in New York for a long time...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

she has no idea what those are.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. That's actually a widely believed urban legend.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016
Claim: During a photo opportunity at a 1992 grocers' convention, President George Bush was "amazed" at encountering supermarket scanners for the first time.

Status: False.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/bushscanner.asp

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
84. Yep, when a legend gets fully entrenched everyone thinks they remember it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

It's quite a well-known phenomenon.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
33. Highlights the mechanics of this type of promo
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

Completely surrounded by cameras and with what looks like Huma, popping back from the turnstile to watch her go through the motions.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
34. In the next debate, She and Bernie will struggle to set the clock on their DVRs
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

Is this what it's come to? Reporting on subway rides?

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
35. Good lord, it was a photo op ...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

If she goes to Broadway, will the Bernie bros bitch that she's not an authentic stage actor?

If she visits the MET, will the Bernie bros bitch that she's not a classically trained singer?

Sheesh.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
69. It was a photo op
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

Meant as a dig at Bernie, and it backfired. The whole thing was stupid, but the Clinton camp was the one trying to make this a thing, and they failed.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
37. this reminds me of billionaire NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg's lies
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

about how he road the subway all the time to City Hall.
Whenever NYC residents who actually depend on the subway to get around complained about crappy subway service, Bloomberg would be telling them to suck it up because he rode the subway everyday himself and the service wasn't that bad.

Until the NYTimes stalked him for a few weeks and discovered that he only rode the subway a few days a week, and actually got chauffered to a strategic express stop on the days he did ride the subway so he wouldn't have to wait for the local trains at his own neighborhood stop.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
39. Anyone who rides the subway like I do everyday here knows that metro cards don't always
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

swipe properly.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
45. Yes that is true and I think this really doesn't amount to much
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

But let's be real for a minute.

With tokengate, you have to admit this is a bit of karma.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
46. No I think it is people who don't know what it is like to ride the subway everyday
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

getting a chuckle.

Nyers can relate to a pain in the ass metro card.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
48. But the bigger issue is she doesn't relate to it
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

It was just an awkward moment for Hillary. She was trying to Bern Bernie and it didn't work.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
49. Awkward to someone who doesn't use a metro card on a daily basis.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

To those of us who live here we can relate to her moment.

If you really want to go there I think Sanders token moment was more awkward.

Actually I am kidding you because i thought the token thing was funny.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. Oh please use this as an argument
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

to New Yorkers - ALL of whom have had to take a few swipes of the metrocard for it to work. I take the subway twice a day and had to swipe 3 times to get it to work this morning. Yawwwwwnnnnnn

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
44. Try cleaning the mag stripe with alcohol it might work better
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:39 PM
Apr 2016

That said, this was pure karma for Hillary.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
62. It's not like it's a big deal
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

I just wait until I make sure it takes because I hurt my hip a couple of times thinking it had taken. This whole line of argument is going to be laughed at by New Yorkers.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
65. Thanks
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

but really, that's more trouble than it's worth. But since I've had a couple crap out on me all together, I will try it before I ditch the card.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
47. except real NYers don't need a handler whispering in their ear how to deal with
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

a please swipe again message.

Hillary, on the other hand, ...

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
86. Laugh all you want
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:14 AM
Apr 2016

NY subway riders LOVED it. Do you know how many of us take the subway? That would be 4.3 million EVERY DAY.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
93. what is a subway? - is that where you get a sandwich? - where do 4.3 million take a sandwich?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

how many is a million? is it like 20,000 or something?

thank you for the permission to laugh - lol





 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
94. wow- so you are saying she is a criminal - wow
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

According to the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s (MTA) Rules of Conduct, the subway system is for transporting riders to their destinations, and nothing else. But the rules list several exceptions, including “campaigning”. So far, so good, Hillary Clinton.

However, Section 1050.6(c)1 of the subway rules states unequivocally that none of these activities may be performed on the actual subway cars.

This is the rule Clinton broke. Clinton’s defenders might think the short subway trip wasn’t actually campaigning, but I’d urge them to watch a video of her two-stop ride – from Yankee Stadium to 170th Street – that clearly shows Clinton glad-handing on the train itself.

She’s aided in doing so by Rubén Díaz Jr, the president of the borough of the Bronx, who introduces her to strap-hangers as “the next president of the United States, Hillary Clinton”. If that wasn’t enough, Clinton then takes some questions from the press aboard the 4 Train car.

Section 1050.6

Use of the transit system.

...

(c) Except as expressly permitted in this subdivision, no person shall engage in any nontransit uses upon any facility or conveyance. Nontransit uses are noncommercial activities that are not directly related to the use of a facility or conveyance for transportation. The following nontransit uses are permitted by the Authority, provided they do not impede transit activities and they are conducted in accordance with these rules: public speaking; campaigning; leafletting or distribution of written noncommercial materials; activities intended to encourage and facilitate voter registration; artistic performances, including the acceptance of donations; solicitation for religious or political causes; solicitation for charities that: (1) have been licensed for any public solicitation within the preceding 12 months by the Commissioner of Social Services of the City of New York under section 21-111 of the Administrative Code of the City of New York or any successor provision; (2) are duly registered as charitable organizations with the Attorney General of New York under section 172 of the New York Executive Law or any successor provision; or, (3) are exempt from Federal income tax under section 501(c)(3) of the United States Internal Revenue Code or any successor provision. Solicitors for such charities shall provide, upon request, evidence that such charity meets one of the preceding qualifications.

(1) Permitted nontransit uses may be conducted in the transit system except: (A) when on or within: a subway car; an omnibus; or, any area not generally open to the public; (B) within a distance of 25 feet of a station booth, or a fare media sales device including but not limited to a fare media vending machine; or, (C) within a distance of 50 feet from the marked entrance to an Authority office or tower. (D) The following activities are not subject to the minimum distance requirements as set forth in subparagraphs (B) and (C) of this paragraph: public speaking; leafletting or distribution of written noncommercial materials; campaigning; and, activities intended to encourage and facilitate voter registration, provided, that with respect to any of the activities described in this subparagraph, no sound production device is used and no physical obstruction, such as a table or other object, is present within a distance of 25 feet of a station booth or fare media sales device, or 50 feet from the marked entrance to an Authority office or tower.

---

Section 1050.10

Fine and penalties.

Pursuant to section 1204(5-a) of the Public Authorities Law, any person committing one or more violations of these rules shall be subject to either:
(a) criminal prosecution in the criminal court of the City of New York, which court may impose a fine not to exceed twenty-five dollars or a term of imprisonment for not longer than ten days, or both; or
(b) civil penalties imposed by the transit adjudication bureau in an amount not to exceed one hundred dollars per violation (exclusive of interest or costs assessed thereon).
(c) These rules may be amended or added to, from time to time, at the sole discretion of the New York City Transit Authority or Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority in accordance with law.

The schedule of such civil penalties will be set forth in an internal procedure manual of the transit adjudication bureau and may be revised from time to time, including provisions for repeat offenses.

In addition to a civil penalty for one or more violations of these rules, an additional penalty, not to exceed fifty dollars, may be imposed upon the failure of a respondent in any proceeding commenced with respect to any such violation to make a timely response to or appearance in connection with a notice of violation or order issued by the Authority in such proceeding.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
42. Nervous Nellies Don't Know When To Stop
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

Tokengate could have been a win for her even as the rest of Sanders' appearance before the editorial board is rebutted. However, she couldn't leave well enough alone.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
77. Unfortunately that applies to starting wars as well. Just gotta prove bigger, stronger, more macho.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

It's a compulsion. Not a good quality.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
50. Oh, she is pathetic. "Gotta go on the subway to show up Bernie and fan the flames of
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

manufactured outrage over fake Token Gate!"

I'm glad it backfired on her.

I am at the point where she just makes me clench my teeth whenever I see her. She is just awful.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
55. Hillary on the subway is like Dukakis in the tank
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

Not fooling anybody.

I just watched the episode of the series CNN is doing on Presidential elections, the one on Bush versus Dukakis in 1988. The Dukakis in the tank was dreamed up by some idiot in the campaign to counter the footage of Bush getting rescued from the water after his plane crashed in WWII. A couple of Dukakis aides were recounting how awful the tank episode was and they had footage of the press corps laughing as Dukakis went by in the tank.

So now we have Hillary, just one of the regular folks, riding the subway. Did the Secret Service have to clear the station for the Queen?

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
56. Hillary takes the subway
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

To wall street On her way to a 10,000$ a plate fundraiser. Limousine entourage drops Hillary off at subway!Hillary meets ,Lloyd Blankfein for hot dog after subway ride.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
58. I remember the first time I tried to use a Metrocard.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

It took a few tries to get the GO message. By the end of the day, though, and many stations later, I had it down. I'm not a New Yorker, just a tourist.

I doubt that Hillary Clinton has ever ridden the subway before in her life. A proper swipe is a learned behavior. Practice is needed.

I say she got the PLEASE SWIPE AGAIN MESSAGE.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
61. She has said that the last time was a few years ago and I don't doubt her
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

But that doesn't mean she relates to the subway experience.

This was just a photo op

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
63. This incident is a microcosm of the Clinton campaign right now
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

Stumbling, bumbling, going negative. Voters don't fall for stunts like riding the subway anymore. In fact, many voters will be turned off by this fakery.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
66. Does this happen? Yes. Is this a bad image for Hillary? Yes.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

This is what happens when you base presidential elections on media and images instead of issues.

We saw the same thing with John Kerry in the clean room "bunny suit." We saw the same thing with Mike Dukakis riding in the tank. We saw the same thing with Michelle Bachmann eating a corn dog like she was sucking on a penis.

If you live by the image, you stumble and fall by the image.

Clinton doesn't ride the subway. She was pretending she did for a photo op to paint her as a "regular person," which she isn't -- not by a long shot. No one was going to buy her as a strap-hanging "regular Joe." This just underscored the ridiculousness of it.

athena

(4,187 posts)
70. This is very common. Happens all the time.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

I go to New York every other week. I used to go two or three times a week. This happens all the time. It happens with a perfectly good card. Anyone who thinks this says something about Hillary has clearly either not taken the subway in New York or has done so only a few times. If anything, this will make New Yorkers feel sympathetic toward Hillary, since everybody who rides the MTA regularly has had this happen to them many times.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
74. Surely you don't think that Hillary is any kind of subway rider
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Apr 2016

This was purely a photo-op and whether she could get through the turnstile on the first swipe has nothing to do with it. It's the constant pandering, that's kind of awful. She was trying to come off as a 'regular New Yorker' - something she's not.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
80. Her campaign is hilariously tone deaf. I love it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

Who, anywhere, thought Hillary takes the subway, or ever has, for any reason, in nearly 25 years?

No one.

So rather than, "I'm just one of you folks," this looks like exactly what it is:

The Queen is deigning to come examine how the little people live.

C'mon, man. Even Elizabeth I pretended to give a shit during her Progresses.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
85. She went through the turnstile, while her entourage...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

went through the side door. LOL! She looked like a toddler showing off a new skill.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
92. heh heh. I want to see her in a coin operated laundromat, a self checkout line in a grocery store,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

pumping her own gas and standing in line for hours to vote. The odd of seeing any of these are ZILCH.

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