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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. No. It's a case of their vote not being worth 1 1/2 times everybody else's.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

All votes should be worth "1 vote." It's called "Democracy."

frylock

(34,825 posts)
11. You'll go back to hating the South once the GE comes around.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

Just like you'll go back to hating the WaPo and NYDN if Mrs. Clinton were to somehow win the election.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. Recommend. The vast majority of us don't want the Bible Belt crushing all our hopes for
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

national justice, equality, and a safer, cleaner, kinder future for everyone.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Our system for selecting a Democratic nominee includes
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

all 50 states and the Democrats who live in them. Any suggestion that some Democrats are superior to others due to the state they live in is beyond specious.

Using that argument, we'd throw out all states that don't consistently vote in the majority for Democratic Presidents. That would eliminate some of the states Bernie has won. People should actually think about what they are suggesting before saying incredibly ignorant things, I believe.

Either the Democratic Party is a nationwide party or it is not. Every state counts. Every Democrat counts.

This entire argument is beyond ridiculous.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
12. Ugh, this again
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

I really wish that Sanders' supporters would stop with this argument - It's completely rooted in the kind of political gamesmanship that his campaign is supposed to be rejecting, and is hypocritical to boot. Most of Bernie's strongest performances are in states that are more deeply red than anywhere in the South. Do we want Idaho and Utah picking our candidates either? So far, the pattern that has emerged is that both are competitive in the Midwest, Hilary dominates the South/Southwest, while Bernie dominates the Plains, Rocky Mountains, the PNW, and New England. Neither one can win without a strong showing in both the Mid-Atlantic region and California, therefore marginalizing either candidate as a regional candidate is false and misleading.

More importantly, unless you live in a swing state, the primaries are the only point at which voters in red or blue states have any say in the outcome of the presidential race. If we are going to go down the road of engineering the primaries to reflect GE strategy, we are going to end up with The President of Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania even more than we already do. Which would also have the effect of making it much harder for candidates like Obama or Sanders to win against establishment heavyweights like Clinton .

And yeah, considering the heavily African-American Democratic base in the Deep South, writing them off as "low information" and "Confederates" is pretty damned racially insensitive.

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