2016 Postmortem
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(2,353 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)I am disagreeing that it was a lie. Hillary said it about him first
hereforthevoting
(241 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)He had shown he is not prepared for the office of President.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)I'm so not getting the Bernie people. They won't even admit that he gave a crappy, crappy interview. Unbelievable. I'm sure that's her fault also, just like her info being stolen by the bernie people. Hey, I'm starting to see a pattern here.
inchhigh
(384 posts)his answer is perfec when you realize that the reporter bungled the line of questioning. They confused the Federal Reserve with the Treasury. The federal reserve is a private institution and its member banks appoint six of nine board members. The truth is the president probably can't use it to break up the banks unless congress changes the law.
They think he bungled his answer because they didn't understand their own question.
If you ask me how I'm going to break up the big banks using a can opener, I have to admit I don't know how I could do that but I'm also going to wonder if you understand how a can opener, or the nations biggest banks, really work.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)there was so much more. And yes, I read all of it.
His platform is about breaking up the banks, I think he should be able to talk about in a clear way. He should be able to make it clear to whoever wants to listen how he is going to do it. It wasn't clear....so crap.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)I'm assuming someone in his campaign saw the Washington Post headline that used the phrase, and ran with it. The fact that none of them bothered to read the article, or watch the interview, where you can clearly see that Hillary NEVER said those words absolutely proves that what she did say was right; namely that Bernie hasn't done his homework.
If he doesn't apologize for directly quoting something she didn't say, Bernie doesn't deserve respect, and he surely can't call himself an honest man.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)way over the top characterization of her comments.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)I was dubious about his qualifications from the beginning, but now he's just embarrassing himself all over the place. He's nothing but an angry lunatic at this point.
inchhigh
(384 posts)to categorically deny she had already been there. And didn't.
One thing in public. Another thing in private.
inchhigh
(384 posts)You need to prove she didn't say it. I will stipulate that she didn't say it on the record in public.
She had three opportunities to deny it on morning Joe and she refused.
Someday there will be a postmortem on her failed campaign and the top staffer that Jeff Zelny refers to on CNN will admit she said it to her staff.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)If someone claims she said it, the onus is on THEM to prove it.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)he couldn't stand up to the smallest amount of vetting from some basic, basic questions about his own platform that he's been repeating ad nauseum since last May.
Imagine if he was subjected to this during a General Election onslaught. He would wither.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/06/clinton-questions-whether-sanders-is-qualified-to-be-president/
^snip^
Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Wednesday questioned whether her rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), is qualified to be president.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Even for a Clinton supporter, you don't seem to be making any sense.
That is what the Washington Post printed. If he was quoting them, his statement is accurate.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And nowhere does the WP article quote Hillary even using the word "qualified."
Bernie directly quoted Hillary as saying "not qualified". Neither Hillary nor WP used that phrase. It is a flat-out lie.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)So are these lies?
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/?page=2
"The Clean Power Plan is something that Sen. Sanders has said he would delay implementing."
"You are three times more likely to be able to get a mortgage if you're a white applicant than if you're black or Hispanic, even if you have the same credentials."
"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."
"I am the only candidate on either side who has laid out a specific plan about what I would do to defeat ISIS."
"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."
"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."
The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability."
The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."
Says Scott Walker rejected legislation to make college loan payments tax deductible and the result was "to raise taxes on students."
"Not one of the 17 GOP candidates has discussed how they'd address the rising cost of college."
Hedge fund managers "pay less in taxes than nurses and truck drivers."
Says "all my grandparents" immigrated to America.
The number of jobs created and people lifted out of poverty during Bill Clintons presidency was "a hundred times" what it was under President Ronald Reagan.
McCain "still thinks it's okay when women don't earn equal pay for equal work."
"If you are driving on average in America this summer, you'll save according to Department of Energy figures about $70."
"I actually started criticizing the war in Iraq before (Obama) did."
Obama "only wants your children to have health insurance."
"So that 2005 energy bill was a big step backwards on the path to clean, renewable energy. That's why I voted against it."
"It's just outrageous that under President Bush, the National Institutes of Health have been basically decreased in funding."
English "is our national language...if it becomes official, that means in a place like New York City you can't print ballots in any other language."
In my opinion, some are lies but some are just inaccurate. Of course the claim about all her Grandparents being immigrants is a lie. No doubt about that one. Her claim about the NIH funding basically being decreased is just inaccurate.
If you really want to split hairs we can do that. Hillary is horribly inaccurate, and down right false, so often that you will lose this one big.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Unlike:
"I actually started criticizing the war in Iraq before (Obama) did."
or
Obama "only wants your children to have health insurance."
DanTex
(20,709 posts)which in turn is not an accurate characterization of what Hillary said.
And then there's the fact that he prefaced it with "quote/unquote".
It's a flat-out lie from Bernie. One of many.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Her artful smear was not so artful as she had hoped and has backfired.
Misrepresent it all you like, reality exists.
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Unless you think Oligarchy is acceptable, she's disqualified.
astrophuss42
(290 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)into a big plus for Bernie instead of admitting that their hero has become confused
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Senator? Check! SoS? Check! Ok, you're qualified!!
It doesn't work that way for any job. Including president. What you did while filling those checkboxes is far more important than the checkboxes themselves.
She has shown consistent poor judgement while filling those checkboxes. From her approach to healthcare reform in 1993 to her pushing for military intervention in Libya and Syria.
That poor judgement is what makes Clinton not qualified.