In the Real World, Sanders is toast

[Lil Missy]

Bernie may have the majority of DU, but HRC doesn't have to win DU. The gloves are off now - Bernie has guaranteed any efforts at unity after Hillary is the nominee are futile. Those Sanders supporters who think HRC has to appease them to get their votes aren't going to vote for her no matter what she does. So there's no point in courting them.

Bernie is going to get trounced in New York. Boy, is that going to piss off those of his supporters who are so gleeful right now.

Mark my words - stick a fork in him - he's done.

[GreatGazoo]

1. In the real world Sanders just won Wisconsin

and Utah, AK, ID, WA and Nevada and Michigan and...

[Lil Missy]

3. Unfortunately for Bernie, there are 40+ other states. n/t

[GreatGazoo]

11. yes -- let them all vote

so we can see a pattern like this again

[Ed Suspicious]

29. Of which he won 16 compared to her 14.

[Joe the Revelator]

59. You do know that Bernie has won more states than Hillary now, right?

Because that kind of disproves the point you are trying to make.

[Lil Missy]

62. You do know election is based on votes, # of delegates, not acres, don't you?

[Joe the Revelator]

64. Hey, i was responding to your silly statement, don't get mad at me.

[RandySF]

4. Arizona?

Hillary can potentially wipe out Bernie's gains with New York alone.

[jillan]

51. Arizona - the state with so much voter suppression that the DOJ had to take over.

If a win at any cost is a win - you can have it.

Voter suppression is not something I could ever be proud of - even if it did mean a Bernie win.

[RandySF]

56. That mess in Maricopa likely hurt Hillary more.

And if you can take the tinfoil off for a moment you'll realize neither the Clinton campaign nor the DNC went in and told election officials what to do.

[w4rma]

68. Suppression hurt Sanders big time. Hillary won the early vote but Sanders won the election day vote.

Don't pretend that it didn't. Just about every single outspoken Hillary supporter acts like they lie for a living.

[Firebrand Gary]

10. Hahahahahahah you're funny... Arizona?

[GreatGazoo]

12. you got me -- I meant Nevada flipping last Saturday

[Firebrand Gary]

13. Really you won Nevada too???

But hey, I'm a nice guy-I will let you falsely claim that. After all, we've got plenty of super delegates to cover that!

[GreatGazoo]

15. 55% to 45% much like Wisconsin

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sanders-likely-flips-two-delegates-after-dominating-clark-convention

This thing is slipping away from Clinton and she knows it.

[pinebox]

49. You didn't hear about NV? O_o

[Firebrand Gary]

55. My dear one, didn't you hear that we have ALL of the Nevada Super delegates.

Check. Mate. Mic. Drop.

[Joob]

2. Listen here Lil Missy, I respect your opinion, but don't agree.

Bernie will win New York!!! And if not, we're not giving up til the end,after the end, because it's worth fighting for those who can't. It's worth making sure we get corruption out of politics who's agendas have taken this Country aback. It's worth it.

I will wish the Democratic Party good luck though if Hillary does get the nomination.

[Lil Missy]

5. Thank you for your respectful reply. Far too little of that here. n/t

[tabasco]

65. Ya' mean like your respectful OP.

LOL.

[Fumesucker]

6. I'm all for a steel cage death match

Two candidates walk in, one walks out.

The mass of Hillary's baggage will soon exceed the Chandrasekhar limit, what happens then is one of the more blatantly spectacular events in our universe.

[COLGATE4]

57. I'd settle for mud wrestling (in bikinis). nt

[JimDandy]

7. In the real world, the Dem Base in my state, WA, went massively for Bernie.

What world do you live on?

The fork is twisted so far into her she's over and done!

Go Bernie--our Brooklyn Boy!!

[madokie]

28. In my state

76 out of 77 counties went for Bernie
Most people here hadn't heard of him before he announced. When I put my first Bernie sticker on my truck people were asking me, Who is that. I'd go through the litany of who Bernie is and what he stands for and they'd go, I'll have to check him out or I'll pay attention to him now. We won big time.

[JimDandy]

44. Yes, Oklahoma was a great win Madokie!

It helped to really start the ball rolling. I phonebanked in to OK and maybe helped with the win a teeny tiny bit.

[Angrydemex]

8. lol

It's not just DU that he has. He's got other organizations on his side. He's got Ben and jerrys. He's got TYT. He's got a crap load of celebrity endorsements. Hes got Michal Moore, he's got people of color, he has younger women and younger men and he has alot of the federal organizations like usps and unions. Pretty much has the people who are tired of the same crap and want something new for this country. A good new.

[MoonRiver]

31. "POC"

[Angrydemex]

63. Yup

It stands for people of color

[highprincipleswork]

9. in the real world, I can trust Bernie, NOT Hillary, to stand up for me and other average Americans.

[jfern]

14. Alaska must not be the real world since he won it by 63%

[Ken Burch]

24. a 63% margin, with a total of over 80% of the vote. n/t.

[Alfresco]

16. Bernieland...the land of delusion.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

60. He wins a lot of liberal states. It's instructive to see who you consider delusional.

[Peace Patriot]

17. I like toast! Bit of butter. Bit of blackberry jam! Yummy!

Bernie is yummy, too--to the people of PA where he just jumped 16 points in one week, and is now within 6 pts. of "the inevitable one," and is packing an arena in PA tonight, and its spare practice arena as well, with yet another 10-block long line of people still going in. 'Yummy Bernie,' they are saying, 'such a toasty guy!'

Bernie hawkers are handing out pats of butter shaped like unicorns free of charge, just to be nice, and gangs of kids are running around with jars of blackberry jam, yelling, 'Free blackberries! Free blackberries! Not Clinton's!'

The trouble with Clinton supporters is that they keep using the same phrases over and over and over again. Very boring! "Stick a fork in him. He's done!" is violent but not original. I used to dislike this Clintonian phrase in our very violent society. Tried to tell 'em not to use it. What if somebody does that to Sanders? Will you be sorry? They just hee-hawed and put me on "ignore."

It COULD be creative, though, if THEY were creative at all. "Stick a pitchfork in him. He won!" Ha-ha! "Stick a pistol in those wavy arms, and let him shoot his foot...his hair...the bird...his Bros!" Lol.

The Clinton campaign ought to hire ME. I could do better than this sorry lot of dull thinkers. And I'd take payment in a "Vote Bernie Sanders: He's not an asshole!" T-shirt.

[mhatrw]

18. So why did Clinton start scorching the earth then?

Why not just sit back and wait for the inevitable coronation?

[TheBlackAdder]

19. In order to discuss the REAL WORLD, one thing must exist: OBJECTIVE REALITY

[reformist2]

20. In the real world, Sanders is ahead of Hillary nationally.

[Arkansas Granny]

25. Please explain, since she's leading in popular vote,

pledged delegates and super delegates. The last polls I've seen showed her ahead in NY, PA & CA.

I've seen several calculations that say Bernie has to win every remaining primary with at least 56% of the vote in order to win. The odds of that happening are exceedingly slim.

[Lizzie Poppet]

35. "Nationally," not just in Democratic primaries.

I believe the poster is referring to national polls, which have begun to show Sanders in the lead. Not meaningful for the primary, but one indicator (of many) that Sanders is the stronger candidate in November.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. You seem tense.

[Depaysement]

22. Think of the repercussions if you're right

The Goldwater Girl gets beaten like Goldwater did in 1964.

Oh, and, "stick a fork in him - he's done." How many times have we heard that before?

We'll see you at the next firewall in Cali.

[Ken Burch]

23. IF HRC is nominated. It doesn't go without saying that she will be. n/t.

[whistler162]

26. Nah.. he is a bagel with a smear of cream cheese and lox

now Hillary is more of a white toast with I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.

[warrprayer]

27. if Bernie is toast

at least he is healthy, delicious toast



not corporate, full of preservatives Monsanto McFrankentoast.

[RazBerryBeret]

30. ha. that's perfect!

and now I'm hungry...

[Gwhittey]

37. ...

[warrprayer]

47. zombie toast!

it's already starting!

Nooooo!

[Dem2]

33. I don't like this sort of post

All the posturing in the world isn't going to change how people vote, but it does make either side look smaller when they do it.

(And believe me, I know both sides do it in spades.)

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. You can't blame Sanders for any lack of unity, post-convention.

That's all on Camp Weathervane.

[HughLefty1]

36. Bernie is the people's choice...

Unfortunately the DNC will burn the party down before they ever let him become the nominee.

[Bob41213]

40. They may not have a choice.

The way it's going, I don't think they can hold him back.

[MoonRiver]

41. Then why does Hillary have 2 million more popular votes than Bernie?

[Marr]

42. Seriously, why would you keep promoting a phony piece of spin like that?

Sanders dominated caucus states. The caucuses represent a lot of voters, but no actual votes. Surely you know that.

[Lucinda]

46. We have the estimated numbers on tthe caucuses. She is waaaaaaaaaaay ahead in voters.

Surely you know that?

[Iliyah]

54. From non-important Southern states

[winter is coming]

38. is that why his campaign has raised more money than hers, three months in a row? n/t

[HumanityExperiment]

39. Notice the trends?...

Only 'toast' that's being cooked is HRC

The 'gloves' have already been stripped off, HRC and her supporters are pivoting from policy to muck raking and personal attack mode now

No... "think HRC has to appease them to get their votes", she needed to win on merit of her policy and ideals, she failed that long ago...

Recent trends disprove your point here: "Bernie is going to get trounced in New York"

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

43. Hillary is gonna be toast...

Not only are her favorables awful, they are starting to trend even worse now.

[whatchamacallit]

45. Interesting world you live in, mine just handed Mr Toast 7 straight victories

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

48. Awww...and here I was expecting a bouguet of roses with the petals stamped "HRC".

I still wouldn't vote for her.

[Jitter65]

50. And Conn? What will happen there? nt

[dchill]

52. DU = microcosm.

[Politicalboi]

53. ROFLMAO!

Bernie is going to win NY. And there is NOTHING she can do to get my support. She's a loser and is NOT progressive. I hope NYer's see that by the 19th. NY is NOT Hillary's turf. She ONLY moved there to get her foot in the door of absolute power. She used NY and it's people. She's a loser and a user.

[pantsonfire]

58. Like on MTV? well duh...n/t

[Betty Karlson]

61. Wow, the disconnect from reality is complete now: left is right and so is wrong

The candidate who keeps surpassing even the most optimistic polls is "toast" because DU's majority opposes Clinton. Right....

Clinton has been smearing Sanders since early this year if not before that, but it isn't her scorched-earth campaign that pre-empts efforts at unity, it is Sanders who points out her flaws. Just like his "tone" obfuscated the opportunity for a debate? By the way: why do you suppose she will get the nomination? So far she is on a losing streak, and the goalposts for her inevitability are moving ever closer to June.

Clinton has NEVER made a point of courting progressives, and somehow that justifies writing off the future of the party while blaming the impending loss on the voters she and Debbie have been actively opposing?

Sanders is going to be trounced in NY? Just like in Wisconsin? Just like on Super Tuesday? Just like on the other major Tuesday?

Sticking forks into toast is not a good idea. If you don't know what is cooking, don't start to randomly use kitchen implements: you are likely to apply them wrong.

[asuhornets]

66. +1,000,000 n/t

[stevenleser]

67. Yep, more than twice as many delegates behind than Hillary was at this point in 2008

It's over