Almost like now that Trump lost yesterday and it is looking much more

[applegrove]

like a contested election that the GOP can get Ryan to win, suddenly the dehumanizing of Hillary on a democratic discussion forum has started again. Like for a while the ratf***ING of the democratic race slowed to a crawl when the GOP thought Trump would win. They didn't want to face off against an insurgent Bernie in the General in that case. Now that there will be a contested convention it is back to dehumanizing Hillary at every turn and giving her no credit for her strengths. Hillary people compliment Bernie all the time when it is due.

[villager]

1. "Hillary people compliment Bernie all the time when it is due"

??????

[applegrove]

3. They constantly say he means the best and he is a good egg. That he has vision.

That he has made Hillary and the Democratic party more grounded in liberal values.

[villager]

5. Like in this post saying they won't support him if he's the nominee?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110793009


If that's a compliment, who needs insults?

[MFM008]

16. people on both sides are getting fed up

with each other and we need to attack the real problem.

R E P U B L I C A N S. Or in November
vvvvvvvvvvv

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

9. she-AT, they crawled under a rock 7 primaries ago. They'll be back.

[TM99]

2. Yes, we are all part of a grand GOP conspiracy

to attack poor little put upon Clinton.

It has nothing to do with her campaign saying she will disqualify and discredit him. It has nothing to do with her using Sandy Hook to attack him on Twitter. It has nothing to do with her going on news shows and saying well Sanders isn't really a Democrat.

It has nothing to do with her smears, lies, rat-fuckery, or Brockian nonsense. It is all our faults for pushing back against the bullying and the bullshit.

You can get off your cross now.

[madokie]

4. What exactly are Hillary's strengths?

I've yet to find them and I've been looking a long ass time now

[applegrove]

12. She's progressive, kind, strong, brilliant, has detailed knowledge of all aspects of the vision

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she wants to implement. She fun and engaging. She's not a demagogue but a hard working cog. She could lose 30 IQ points as she ages and still be brilliant. She builds relationships. She is very well respected by all who have worked with her. She has wide experience in policy, politics and life. I think it is good that she has had hard times (bill, the dog who wouldn't stay on the porch) because hard times makes one a deeper more empathetic person. She is a presidential candidate for the 21st century with a whole slew of policy ideas to make the country, all parts of the country, tick. She also has the intellectual capacity to be open to a whole lot of ides being generated every day around the world and has the wherewithal to implement them by working with Congress where she was popular. She'll deliver. She'll fight. She'll win. And people will get behind her.

[madokie]

13. My o my what nonsense

She's got you fooled and its not in a good way.

[applegrove]

14. I live in a country where our current prime minister and his government

are suss ING out the best ideas from around the world. I want that for my US friends too. It is an amazing feeling that ideas will be judged on merit and fairness under Hillary rather than buried by heaps of Bullshit by the GOP. Hillary is smart enough to bring a world of ideas to face down those oligarchial ones the GOP has been running on and implementing for the last 35 years.

[MFM008]

15. wow

talk about disrespecting someones opinion. Many of feel the same way about HRC and dont rag Sanders supporters or say you have been fooled. Im old enough to remember the 90s pretty clearly and how she handled herself through the years.
Its not being fooled, everything she has been through and no one can lay a finger on her. She would have been driven out of politics decades ago but there is no there there.

[Voice for Peace]

17. I tried very hard to see her as you describe.

...a well-constructed & long- promoted image of her. So much has been dispelled though.

Countless accounts from people who have worked both with and for her. People fear her and she is vindictive, arrogant rude dismissive dishonest, as folks have written.
and so on

I was wanting to champion her, for all the right reasons; but she dashed my hopes as soon as she and her peeps began dishonestly representing Bernie's platform.
It was 2008 again but worse. Using dishonest underhanded tactics to smear a good decent man and manipulate you and me, try to confuse us with bullshit.

Her intelligence? I've been stunned by how stupid, in a practical sense, she seems to be. Repeating almost exactly the losing campaign of '08. The people who advise her so poorly or her own terrible judgement, cluelessness about herself and the voters.

I've learned so much about her as SOS, the clinton foundation, the arms deals, way way too much. I think supporting her requires unwillingness to look closely at many serious shortcomings & her poor electability odds.

Looking back today at an old video of Bill spesking to us from his heart that he never had a sexual relationship with that woman and it all came flooding back. Masters of deception. Never again.

[revbones]

6. Yeah, it's because of Ryan and doesn't have anything to do with

1. Her campaign's declaration of war to "disqualify" Sanders
2. Her communications director saying he wasn't qualified
3. Her scripted interview about him not being qualified
4. All the talking points about him not being qualified

Yeah, fighting back is somehow "dehumanizing of Hillary"

And good luck finding a link to justify saying "Hillary people compliment Bernie all the time"

[highprincipleswork]

7. I have been around too long, and a Democrat too long, and known the Clintons for too long...

to believe that Hillary will be there for me when my average American wants and needs are out there on the chopping block.

At the same time, I know that Bernie will be fighting in there for me like the native New Yorker he is. Why? Because he has been doing that authentically and decidedly and firmly for years and years and years, decades even.

That's the difference.

Besides that, I also don't like her tactics, I don't like her distorting or absolute shenanigans with the truth. What is there that I am really supposed to be speaking nicely about her right now?

[delrem]

8. Shouldn't you be talking about racist misogynist berniebros being just generally BAD?

You trying to change the tune a bit, applegrove?

Orders, maybe.

[Barack_America]

10. Is Hillary "tough as nails", or a delicate flower that cannot be touched?

Your call, just please make a choice and stick with it.

[840high]

11. Unrec for nonsense.