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Dem2

(8,168 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:45 AM Apr 2016

Tonight's Lawrence O'Donnell segment on the "unqualified" statement tonight in PA

4/6/16
Sanders: Clinton not qualified for president

Sen. Bernie Sanders caused political shockwaves during a campaign event in Philadelphia Wednesday night when he said he does not believe Hillary Clinton is qualified for the presidency. Lawrence discusses the breaking news with David Corn and Jonathan Allen.

Duration: 11:53

http://on.msnbc.com/1UJxOQ5
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delrem

(9,688 posts)
1. The unctuous Lawrence O'Donnell.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:47 AM
Apr 2016

I can't click on it. The guy is a walking gob of semi-solid syrup.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. I know. I watched his show. I have a disagreement wwith Lawrence & his guests though.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:49 AM
Apr 2016

I also watched a clip of Hillary when she make her comments about Bernie. It sure sounded to ME like she was saying Bernie was unqualified! Now her supporters are saying she didn't go that far. I call BS on that, and apparently Bernie does too.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
3. I agreed with the analysis
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:51 AM
Apr 2016

I think words (sometimes) matter, one can go just a little too far and it matters. I'd not use this same attack in the future if I was him.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
5. I think LOD was very fair.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:59 AM
Apr 2016

He pointed out that politicians "artfully" refrain from calling their opponents qualified.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. Dick Cheney and G. W. Bush were obviously "qualified", since they did it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:52 AM
Apr 2016

So what sound-byte will be picked up on tomorrow, to avoid talking about reality?
With $billions$ in campaign money lining the pockets of everyone in the field of communications, who knows?

What a circus! What a disgrace, that the author of wars that require a person go down a rabbithole to describe, gets away with it because everyone is bought.

The problem is that there are too many people that think it's cool. That it's OK, "the lesser of evils" or whatever, and think it's reasonable to suppose that yet another neocon war profiteering con artist would "incrementally improve things" if elected POTUS.

Weird.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
10. Sanders got bad advice, plain and simple.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:56 AM
Apr 2016

Look at how this is going to play:

Still, Sanders avoided attacking Clinton too harshly. Unlike fellow Democratic presidential hopeful former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee, he said her vote for the Iraq War was not disqualifying — “everybody makes bad votes.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-2016-president-momentum-hype-polls-118877

delrem

(9,688 posts)
11. I think a vote in favor of an illegal war of choice, against a country that wasn't attacking,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:59 AM
Apr 2016

is disqualifying.

neocons don't.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
12. Are you calling Sanders a neocon on June of 2015? Read my link.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:12 AM
Apr 2016

He said that her vote wasn't disqualifying and that it was a bad vote. Do you know how this is going to play? Sanders is going to back down tomorrow. Well, today.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
13. I'd disagree with Sanders, or anyone, on that.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:15 AM
Apr 2016

This is about over a million dead people, joshcryer, and millions more refugees, with the entire physical/social infrastructure of their countries destroyed.

I'm not OK with it. It was and is a crime.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
14. I blame Bush for Iraq.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:28 AM
Apr 2016

And give Hillary Clinton 1/535ths complicity in that. Or one thousandth of Bush's illegal war crimes. And that's assuming he was going to require congressional action, which he wasn't. He was going in anyway and the vote was cowardice on behalf of those voting for it.

I think Sanders sees it that way and that's why he called it a bad vote, but as the campaign has move forward he has used it as effective rhetoric. His past comments will be used against him, the Clinton campaign is only just getting started.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
16. See, this kind of proves that he went off without really thinking about it
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

I hope this is the last time we hear this line of attack.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
6. remember........Tuesday NIGHT, an embedded reporter with the clinton campaign ..
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:03 AM
Apr 2016

...reported that her campaign said they were going to "disqualify and discredit" Bernie. That was the start of this.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
7. "Disqualify and discredit" to means...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:26 AM
Apr 2016

Catapulting the smear campaign that Bernie is not qualified to be POTUS. This and the Daily News bullshit are just the opening volleys.

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
8. She did the very same thing on MTP with Tim Russert in 2008 when asked
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:34 AM
Apr 2016

if John Edwards and Obama were qualified; she didn't answer but diverted to other topics. That means no, and the candidates were sitting right beside her. Bill Clinton did it too when he was asked about Obama then. SAMO losing tactic, didn't win then and won't win now.

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