Prediction: Sanders backs off the "unqualified" statements by morning.

[joshcryer]

[highprincipleswork]

1. Prediction. Sanders wins New York.

[RobertEarl]

7. He is qualified

This is gonna be so cool seeing Bernie win NY.

[Betty Karlson]

45. Cool and reassuring: we had better run the most qualified candidate, and Clinton is

the candidate with all the flaws and all the disqualifications. You would have to be extremely privileged to want to risk the future on the nation on her ambitions.

[RobertEarl]

88. Bernie is the most qualified

And the most vetted candidate being as he has been attacked by the establishment and come through looking even better.

He's also been getting more and more votes as people become aware of him, unlike his opposition that has been losing votes.

We are very lucky as Democrats to have someone of his caliber running for our party's nomination. He makes Democrats look good.

[hrmjustin]

2. I think he lets Weaver bully him into saying things he doesn't want to.

Weaver is not a force for good in that campaign.

[joshcryer]

23. Not bullying, manipulating.

I fully believe going into that speech he thought Clinton explicitly called him unqualified. As a candidate you have to trust the info being given.

[pantsonfire]

48. I'd like to see his comic book collection....n/t

[Firebrand Gary]

51. I agree with this, I think Weaver is the one feeding this.

He's damaging the democratic party and does not give one care.

[DemocracyDirect]

3. The unqualified claim came from the Hillary Clinton campaign on Saturday night.

We have video to prove it.

What you got?

[DavidDvorkin]

4. Link to the video, then.

[DemocracyDirect]

10. Here you go...

[DavidDvorkin]

33. Nowhere in there do I see Hillary calling Sanders unqualified

The reporters don't even quote anyone in the Clinton campaign as saying so.

You have nothing.

[daleanime]

43. And answers like that....

are part of the reason people don't trust Hillary. So keep up the good work and have a lovely night.

[DemocracyDirect]

57. So you agree that Bernie is qualified!

Great!

[DavidDvorkin]

68. Your imagination is running away with you

Just as it has regarding Hillary's supposedly calling Sanders unqualified.

He fell on his face. His supporters should just admit it and stop trying to twist other people's words.

[DemocracyDirect]

73. I must have imagined the whole thing.

Or you can just look at post #10 for the video and see for yourself.

Have a great day!

[DavidDvorkin]

75. I watched it and responded in post #33

There's nothing in the video that supports Sanders' claim. He's being a fool.

[Agschmid]

11. They'll link to CNN which has an anonymous source.

So who knows what was really said, but it certainly wasn't the candidate saying it at a rally like Bernie did.

[revbones]

15. Yeah, cuz the "anonymous sources" of CNN are just crack addicts from the alley out back.

Get real. They wouldn't cite something that wasn't at least somewhat safe and vetted.

Besides, the guy being interviewed that said it - at the beginning of the video doesn't it say he's from the campaign?

[Agschmid]

18. Haha I hope their sources aren't crack addicts...

I don't think the genetleman in the video works for a campaign I think he is just a reporter.

[DemocracyDirect]

16. Glad to see you recognize it was in response to similar campaign rhetoric...

... and yeah just about all the slime coming at Bernie comes from anonymous sources.

But it sounds a lot more like it's coming from David Brock.

But he wouldn't admit to that or it might seem like he and his SuperPAC are colluding with Hillary Clinton's campaign.

[msongs]

35. u still have not provided proof this claim is actually true. nt

[DemocracyDirect]

65. Well the CNN reporter embedded in the Hillary campaign says it came from the campaign...

I guess you are suggesting he lied.

I hope he did lie, because the way he was bristling in his report, he looked like he was as angry as the campaign people would be about Bernie's win in Wisconsin. It seemed over the top.

See the video in post #10 above.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Only if she pulls back

...

I hear the weather report in hell is not expecting a light dusting so I don't expect her to do that.

When you go there, don't be coy when you are hit back. This is one of those unwritten rules of politics.

[geek tragedy]

27. He hurt himself with these remarks.

People will all be able to see she never said he was not qualified.

He was too quick on the draw and shot himself in the foot.

If he isn't careful Obama could endorse Hillary.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. As much as Obama hurt himself when he fired back

oy

[geek tragedy]

30. Step outside the bubble of Bernie fans who think he walks on water.

He is in for a very, very bad day tomorrow.

Obama never crossed the line Bernie just jumped across.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Alas I am not a bernie fan

or am in a bubble. History in this case is quite frankly prologue.

Sorry that painting him as a weak candidate did not work, really. This was what destroying and unqualifying him was about, She did the same with Obama

here a more recent tale of this

it’s easy to forget that eight years ago at this time, her campaign was desperately trying to paint the then-Illinois senator as a whimsical amateur whose popular narrative was a better fit for the Land of Make Believe than the White House.

...

And in the ensuing two and a half weeks leading up to the pivotal contest in South Carolina, issues of race remained front and center — with a boost from Hillary Clinton herself — as Obama campaign allies expressed outrage.

The day after Obama’s landslide South Carolina victory, the bitterness came to a head when President Clinton appeared to dismiss the result as an all but inevitable outcome in a state where a majority of the voters were African-American, noting that Jesse Jackson had twice won South Carolina.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-obama-south-carolina-2008_us_569d3d9de4b0778f46fa57fe

I am seeing 2008 redux... and truly, it is not fun. Or if you consider a root canal fun, I suppose it is.

[geek tragedy]

38. Yes, Sanders is in the position Clinton was in 2008

And he's following her example to his own detriment.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. No actually, until today he ran a gentleman's campaign

and this quite frankly this is going to CA... hell my vote will count for far more than just the minimum wage... we rarely matter.

Oy

I know this is not something, to use your words, you want to understand, since you are indeed in a bubble. In some ways this is where Clinton (bill for the kids) was in 1992.

[geek tragedy]

40. He will be behind by at least 200 delegates going into California.

He's not winning 75% of the vote there. A

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. LMAO

this is some really funny shit


Have an excellent evening... but thanks for the laugh, I mean it.

[Betty Karlson]

46. YES! My sentiments exactly!

[Samantha]

44. Not at all

It was indeed leaked Hillary was going to "disqualify" him and it was an intern who worked in her campaign that leaked it, among other things.

Bernie would have been perceive as weak to allow his opponent to in any way attack him and not respond in kind. I think his response was intended to demonstrate that he will not lie down and let her walk all over him. He said from the beginning he wanted to run a clean campaign, and that he has always done that in Vermont. He has let some little cuts slide, but it is a whole new ballgame now and the rules have changed.

Kudos to Bernie for standing up for himself.

Sam

[geek tragedy]

64. It's not going to hurt him with his adoring fan base

Everyone else ... different story.

I'm sure his Hillary Hate earned him plenty of donations though.

[ThePhilosopher04]

6. I predict not. Nor should he.

[timmymoff]

8. Nostradamus, Jeane Dixon, The Amazing Kreskin?

He will only win his home state. He will be gone by Iowa . Wait until super Tuesday. Wait until march 15th , now NY .. I'd get out of the prediction business if I were you guys. But hey, like your candidate, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Bonobo]

9. He should. Just as Hillary has.

And don't pretend that she hasn't sent out the message that Bernie is not qualified, or I won't waste time discussing it with you.

[joshcryer]

22. Implicantly yes, as she did about the Jr Senator in 2008.

But not explicitly. The words spoken by Sanders tonight are literally a Trump campaign ad. Sanders went a bit overboard and will back down and he knows it.

[Bonobo]

24. I would tend to agree. nt

[northernsouthern]

12. Ok I have my own...

Prediction: a "statement" made about the future.

and I can clarify that...

Statement: a message that is stated or declared; a communication (oral or written) setting forth particulars or facts etc.

Yall can't we have less opinion based threads? Just signed up here after it took forever to get the verification code so I want to reply to substance, or threads with details. (I wonder if anyone else is having that issue, sent an email to every one listed on the help pages and luckily someone saw it... hope the new member system is not down)

My prediction is that I will say I have no clue as to what is going to happen since they just went negative, and not sure if they are too emotional to back down, or if they have said to heck with it I am all in...plus it seems both parties would have to agree.

[joshcryer]

37. It's a super short term prediction, 11 hours or so, right?

Technically I'm wrong if by morning is over in ET timezone.

[northernsouthern]

42. Yes and no.

The parties do tend to do full introspection in a day, so turn around is possible, but they just went nuclear in the HRC with the Sandyhook thing, so I feel it is a bit too hot to claim anything...plus if someone started waving around victims bodies like political flags it would be stepping over a line I may take a few days to come down from. I just want links...but not right now, it is late, now I just want sleep...

[Joob]

13. Explain to me why the reasons he listed*, don't make her unqualified.

SuperPacs - taking 10's of millions of dollars in special interest
(15 million dollars from Wallstreet through SuperPacs)


Voted for War in Iraq

Supported virtually every disastrous trade agreements that has cost us jobs

Supported Panama Free Trade Agreement

Are these Lies?
Were they actually good for us?
Do we ignore this, she's done other things?

I want to know WHY these things don't make her Unqualified.

[geek tragedy]

26. They make Trump more qualified than Obama and Clinton.

You agree with that?

[Joob]

31. Absolutely, pretty sad when Trump recognizes issues SHE doesn't.

Wow really? You think dropping Trump's name Helps her? She looks even more stupid now.

[geek tragedy]

32. You voting Trump over Hillary if she gets the nomination?

[Joob]

34. No, I don't vote for candidates I kinda agree with. If I did

I would be a Hillary supporter.

[PufPuf23]

14. I hope not because Sanders is correct.

Do you want this person to be CIC?

[revbones]

17. I certainly hope he does not

I think he needs to continue to stand up to her as well as the attacks from both her and her super-PAC and propaganda outlets.

[scscholar]

19. But the media perceives that as attacks...

since it's against a woman. It's a lose-lose situation for that non-Democrat.

[revbones]

20. You're not interested in discussion about it since you're using "non-democrat" attack lines.

It's a win-win for him.

She has to respond to say she's qualified - like she wanted Bernie to have to respond. Her camp just didn't expect him to punch back and turn it around.

[delrem]

21. No, he won't.

He has been total kid gloves, so far.

It's time that the question of who is actually "qualified" to be POTUS should be addressed.

I think the first point should be foreign policy, which Hillary Clinton puts as being to her advantage, she being ex-SOS.
So let's examine how her contributions to Iraq, Libya, Syria, the cluster bombing of Yemen, make her more qualified to be POTUS.

Let's start there.
Then maybe we can get into investment banking vis-a-vis war profiteering.

Or do you prefer a coronation of the queen of the neocon movement?

[geek tragedy]

25. No, they sent out a press release doubling down

You can tell who a person is when they get tested.

This is who he is.

[joshcryer]

29. Weaver and his clowns always double down before backing off.

The instances are numerous, from the hack, to the NH debate (Sanders was going to pull a Trump), to Planned Parenthood.

He's feeding Sanders shit info and shit talking points.

[Kalidurga]

47. I think he should double down and triple down.

I would be thinking of ways to hit her harder. Like being more explicit about Hillary's ties to the Panama Papers and her speech to that German Bank that made billions and paid her hundreds of thousands of dollars for a speech.

[joshcryer]

50. Sanders is a bigger man than that.

[Kalidurga]

78. I agree

He is being very nice. Even when he was talking about her being unqualified. I would have thrown a lot more truth bombs. And I would have started sooner.

[Lil Missy]

49. Yes he will.

[Luminous Animal]

52. I'm thinking not.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/hillarysoqualified?src=rela

[joshcryer]

53. I'm sure he's getting terrible advice from Weaver and his clown car.

And they're using social media as their metric.

But Sanders has a moral compass that most politicians don't have.

He'll recognize he was misled going in to that speech and correct his mistake.

Bank on it.

That's why I supported Sanders (and still do, though I recognize he's lost), he has integrity. He will back down. Despite Weaver's protest, despite Tad Devine's dirty politics. The first time he is asked, in an interview, in a few more hours this morning, he will rebuke his earlier comments.

[Luminous Animal]

54. That hashtag was started by Hillary supporters. It backfired,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511667553

[joshcryer]

55. Oh, I'm fully aware.

But hashtags don't determine Sanders' integrity.

[Luminous Animal]

56. Really. Hillary all but flat out stated that Bernie was not presidential material.

And Bernie needs to apologize for stating flat out what she was too chicken shit to put in plain language?

Yay the internet for taking her down.

[joshcryer]

60. She "all but flat out stated that Obama" wasn't either.

Only Obama didn't turn around and flat out state it. See how that works?

[jfern]

58. Maybe if the Hillary campaign apologizes and goes unnuclear

But I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

[joshcryer]

61. Only 6 hours left for me to be proven wrong.

No big deal right?

[mhatrw]

59. Prediction: Clinton and her supporters are ever persecuted and always victims.

And you can take that one to Goldman Sachs!

[joshcryer]

62. Sleep. Could someone kick this with Sanders FIRST interview regarding this?

Watch.

[msanthrope]

63. I'll kick this and tell you this is playing badly for Sanders in NY.....

It's being perceived as... What's a woman got to do to be qualified to run for president? AND...as one person put it to me... What the f*** one of our Senators isn't qualified to be president?

[Gothmog]

66. Sanders is evidently doubling down on his stupid claims

[Dem2]

67. Not a good idea

Do you have a link?

[NurseJackie]

69. I love your optimistic outlook.

[ecstatic]

70. Bernie and his flunkies appear to be digging deeper,

with even worse attacks added on. Please proceed... This will only increase the disgust the superdelegates will have for the BernieBro express. At this point, there's zero chance of a substantial number of them flipping to Bernie. He's done.

[Autumn Colors]

81. OMG

[Motown_Johnny]

71. It is morning. Has that happened? n/t

[msanthrope]

72. WaPo fact checker calling him a liar over this. nt

[DemocracyDirect]

74. OMG

WaPo has never said anything against Bernie Sanders before.

You are right, he has really done it this time.

[Skwmom]

76. It won't be the first time the WP Amazon Tabloid has LIED.

[Purveyor]

77. So, how did this one work out for ya?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

79. Amen to that!

[azmom]

80. They have no clue about Bernie.

Too funny.

[pdsimdars]

83. No clue about ANYTHING

[joshcryer]

87. I thought I knew his character.

I still believe he backs down.

[joshcryer]

85. Quite disappointed.

[pdsimdars]

82. It's afternoon now and I haven't heard a thing about it.

Better get your crystal ball fixed.

As far as I can see, they're sticking with it. I think Bernie is incapable of telling a lie, that's why he can't walk it back, she isn't qualified.

[pdsimdars]

84. As far as I can tell, you got it backwards. . . .

I heard Ed Rendell ( a good friend of the Clintons ) said she needs to back off and stop listening to the hawks in her campaign.

[joshcryer]

86. I was wrong, closest thing is this TPM link, blaming MSM:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-blames-media-unqualified-tiff-clinton

But it doesn't really count.

Wow.

[WhiteTara]

89. The back peddle has begun

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-blames-media-unqualified-tiff-clinton

More to come

[joshcryer]

90. I posted above but doesn't really count.

I got it wrong.

[timmymoff]

91. I didn't

regarding your various predictions. Hillary psychics are like weathermen only correct far less often, just like their candidate.

[joshcryer]

92. I'm a Sanders supporter and think this is beneath him.

And I still hold out that he'll make a statement regarding this. It'll certainly come up at the debates.

[timmymoff]

93. Good

it needs to come up. Her errors in judgment need to be brought out again and again.

[joshcryer]

94. I was off by a few days: Sanders Reverses "of course Clinton is qualified"

Sanders has more integrity in his pinky than a large number of those attributing a horrible character to him, gleefully embracing the politics of the nasty.

I have yet to be wrong about my judgement of his character, and that's why I love the man. And that's also why I crack up about contested conventions, and other absurdities.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/sanders-reverses-hillary-clinton-qualified-221709