2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHRC campaign yesterday: "disqualify him, defeat him and then they can unify the party later"
This is a coordinated attack on Bernie:
Bernie mailer
Washington Post: "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president"
Polls in Wisconsin haven't even been closed for 24 hours, and we're already seeing the start of the Clinton campaign's full-on attack before the New York primary. We knew they were getting nervous, but candidly, we didn't think they would go this negative so quickly. We have to be ready for what comes next.
The media is going to go wild, but he is right - anyone who helped create, engages in, and seeks to strengthen a system of complete corruption based on legalized bribery is not qualified to be the People's leader.
This is the result of massive legalized corruption that has effectively stolen this country from the citizens. Sanders is correct - If Hillary is going to engage in this practice of legalized bribery, she is not qualified to be President.
APRIL 18, 2014
Is America an Oligarchy?
...a new study concluding that rich people and organizations representing business interests have a powerful grip on U.S. government policy. After examining differences in public opinion across income groups on a wide variety of issues, the political scientists Martin Gilens, of Princeton, and Benjamin Page, of Northwestern, found that the preferences of rich people had a much bigger impact on subsequent policy decisions than the views of middle-income and poor Americans. Indeed, the opinions of lower-income groups, and the interest groups that represent them, appear to have little or no independent impact on policy....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy
The original study:
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page
ABSTRACT
Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politicswhich can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralismoffers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
The last paragraph of their findings:
"...Americas claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened."
think
(11,641 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I think the entire media will disagree with you and I think you know it.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-qualified/index.html
kristopher
(29,798 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)In response to the bully queen who is miffed this is taking too long. Her campaign is going dirtier and dirtier.
It is high time Sanders fought back hard.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)We've seen the media attack Sanders on Clinton's behalf for months - and this is her idea.
You want to claim she has plausible deniability that is on you. It is the standard ploy she uses to engage in completely corrupt behavior so why shouldn't you employ it to alleviate your cognitive dissonance.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)We've seen the media attack Sanders on Clinton's behalf for months - and this is her idea.
You want to claim she has plausible deniability that is on you. It is the standard ploy she uses to engage in completely corrupt behavior so why shouldn't you employ it to alleviate your cognitive dissonance.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Really?
Rather than cite a source you attack?
The "new" DU just isn't what it used to be.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)You don't need me to tell you what you already know.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)they're running out of patience. So they're going to begin deploying a new strategy. It's going to be called: "Disqualify Him, Defeat Him" I'm told, beginning here in the New York primary in two weeks on his gun record, on other things.
I'd like to know who "I'm told" is.
LuvLoogie
(7,006 posts)dchill
(38,497 posts)That statement alone is enough to disqualify her. Let alone the fact that she had just said that she was proud that the Democrats had run such a clean campaign. Then Wisconsin happened. Then the internal polling went south.
Unqualified and disqualified.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)characterized as quite questionable...
Rosario Dawson ... WHY She Supports Bernie...
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dchill
(38,497 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,006 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)that once we kill the Hillary campaign, the signers to her "Victory Fund" will collapse upon it's corpse.
I'm sick of these pretend Democrats.
azmom
(5,208 posts)That disqualifies her in my book.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)That's what all the iterations of the Third Way were about.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)I'm so sick of her shit. She lobs hate, bernie put substance to her claim and sends it back, and they all cry foul.
It's time for Hillary to grow up. America has been forced to. Enough of her shenanigans.
dchill
(38,497 posts)I just wish she'd go away.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)She declares scorched earth...and Berns herself.
If she alienates most of the party, how is she supposed to win the primary, let alone the GE? Tactical minds would like to know how 1-1 = Win
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)I don't know where it came from, so I want the source.
If true, she should disavow it or stand the heat that
comes with such a plan.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)It was all over DU last night.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)its my turn. How dare Bernie respond to my putrid crap, hes so rude... How pathetic their internals must be.
dchill
(38,497 posts)At first it was "anyone but Hillary" because of the sleazy, shoddy campaign she ran in 2008 as an entitled carpetbagger from New York.
Then along came Bernie, with the REAL Democratic philosophy and the credibility to attract true liberal Democrats. We REALLY have his back, and will put our money where our mouths are. Put that in your golden pipe and smoke it.
How's that internal polling look?
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Poor babies.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Feel the Bern.