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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:04 PM Apr 2016

HRC campaign yesterday: "disqualify him, defeat him and then they can unify the party later"

This is a coordinated attack on Bernie:
Bernie mailer

Hillary Clinton herself just unleashed the first part of the new "disqualify him, defeat him and then they can unify the party later" strategy we told you about. Look at this new headline:
Washington Post: "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president"


Polls in Wisconsin haven't even been closed for 24 hours, and we're already seeing the start of the Clinton campaign's full-on attack before the New York primary. We knew they were getting nervous, but candidly, we didn't think they would go this negative so quickly. We have to be ready for what comes next.


The media is going to go wild, but he is right - anyone who helped create, engages in, and seeks to strengthen a system of complete corruption based on legalized bribery is not qualified to be the People's leader.

This is the result of massive legalized corruption that has effectively stolen this country from the citizens. Sanders is correct - If Hillary is going to engage in this practice of legalized bribery, she is not qualified to be President.

APRIL 18, 2014
Is America an Oligarchy?

...a new study concluding that rich people and organizations representing business interests have a powerful grip on U.S. government policy. After examining differences in public opinion across income groups on a wide variety of issues, the political scientists Martin Gilens, of Princeton, and Benjamin Page, of Northwestern, found that the preferences of rich people had a much bigger impact on subsequent policy decisions than the views of middle-income and poor Americans. Indeed, the opinions of lower-income groups, and the interest groups that represent them, appear to have little or no independent impact on policy....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy


The original study:

Sept 2014 journal "Perspectives on Politics"

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

ABSTRACT
Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.


The last paragraph of their findings:

Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a wide-spread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

"...America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened."
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HRC campaign yesterday: "disqualify him, defeat him and then they can unify the party later" (Original Post) kristopher Apr 2016 OP
Hillary's scorched earth campaign begins... think Apr 2016 #1
Nice try, but the entire planet can see that it was Sander's who went scorched earth. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #2
"disqualify him, defeat him and ... unify the party later" kristopher Apr 2016 #4
"Hillary Clinton not qualified to be President" - Bernie Sanders Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #8
I don't give a rats ass. They have been working for HRC since day 1. kristopher Apr 2016 #10
Yes, he did. TM99 Apr 2016 #27
I see you are using quotes, who are you quoting? Agschmid Apr 2016 #9
HRC's campaign put that out via their CNN reporter last night. kristopher Apr 2016 #13
Okay so who put it out? Which campaign staffer? Was it written, or spoken? Agschmid Apr 2016 #17
I'm not playing that game. kristopher Apr 2016 #18
So option B, personal attack? Got it. Agschmid Apr 2016 #19
I'm not playing that game kristopher Apr 2016 #21
So repost the personal attack at me? Agschmid Apr 2016 #23
You have been here and you saw the report last night - it was all over DU kristopher Apr 2016 #24
It was made up by Jeff Zeleny Dem2 Apr 2016 #31
That is editorializing by the press. Nobody is quoted as saying that. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #26
"disqualify him, defeat him and ... unify the party later" dchill Apr 2016 #3
The Greater The Pressure Applied On Hillary... The More She Comes Unhinged! Her "Methods" Are CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #11
Ethics are for everyone whose name is not Clinton. dchill Apr 2016 #14
She Who Laughs Inappropriately! Fie!! LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #28
I can only hope... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #32
She is a big player in the corrupt system. azmom Apr 2016 #5
She and Bill built the system kristopher Apr 2016 #7
Hillary said it first, so it's okay. Give her 200 and let her pass go. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6
I don't care if she grows up or not. dchill Apr 2016 #15
*lmao* Hydra Apr 2016 #12
Did this statement come from her campaign? sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #16
The gave it to CNN's stringer at her campaign >for dissemination< last night kristopher Apr 2016 #20
seems like she is saying, screw the dem party. im the only one who is important, besides litlbilly Apr 2016 #22
It's too late. You can't just wish us away, Hillary. dchill Apr 2016 #25
Oh, they want to wish us away. malokvale77 Apr 2016 #30
Hillary will burn in the mist of her own scorched earth. malokvale77 Apr 2016 #29
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
27. Yes, he did.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

In response to the bully queen who is miffed this is taking too long. Her campaign is going dirtier and dirtier.

It is high time Sanders fought back hard.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
18. I'm not playing that game.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

We've seen the media attack Sanders on Clinton's behalf for months - and this is her idea.
You want to claim she has plausible deniability that is on you. It is the standard ploy she uses to engage in completely corrupt behavior so why shouldn't you employ it to alleviate your cognitive dissonance.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
21. I'm not playing that game
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:33 PM
Apr 2016

We've seen the media attack Sanders on Clinton's behalf for months - and this is her idea.
You want to claim she has plausible deniability that is on you. It is the standard ploy she uses to engage in completely corrupt behavior so why shouldn't you employ it to alleviate your cognitive dissonance.


Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
23. So repost the personal attack at me?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

Really?

Rather than cite a source you attack?

The "new" DU just isn't what it used to be.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
24. You have been here and you saw the report last night - it was all over DU
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

You don't need me to tell you what you already know.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
31. It was made up by Jeff Zeleny
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016
“they're running out of patience. So they're going to begin deploying a new strategy. It's going to be called: "Disqualify Him, Defeat Him" … I'm told, beginning here in the New York primary in two weeks on his gun record, on other things.”


I'd like to know who "I'm told" is.

dchill

(38,497 posts)
3. "disqualify him, defeat him and ... unify the party later"
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

That statement alone is enough to disqualify her. Let alone the fact that she had just said that she was proud that the Democrats had run such a clean campaign. Then Wisconsin happened. Then the internal polling went south.

Unqualified and disqualified.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
11. The Greater The Pressure Applied On Hillary... The More She Comes Unhinged! Her "Methods" Are
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

characterized as quite questionable...



Rosario Dawson ... WHY She Supports Bernie...

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malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
32. I can only hope...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

that once we kill the Hillary campaign, the signers to her "Victory Fund" will collapse upon it's corpse.

I'm sick of these pretend Democrats.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
6. Hillary said it first, so it's okay. Give her 200 and let her pass go.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:14 PM
Apr 2016

I'm so sick of her shit. She lobs hate, bernie put substance to her claim and sends it back, and they all cry foul.

It's time for Hillary to grow up. America has been forced to. Enough of her shenanigans.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. *lmao*
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

She declares scorched earth...and Berns herself.

If she alienates most of the party, how is she supposed to win the primary, let alone the GE? Tactical minds would like to know how 1-1 = Win

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. Did this statement come from her campaign?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know where it came from, so I want the source.

If true, she should disavow it or stand the heat that

comes with such a plan.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
20. The gave it to CNN's stringer at her campaign >for dissemination< last night
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

It was all over DU last night.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
22. seems like she is saying, screw the dem party. im the only one who is important, besides
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:33 PM
Apr 2016

its my turn. How dare Bernie respond to my putrid crap, hes so rude... How pathetic their internals must be.

dchill

(38,497 posts)
25. It's too late. You can't just wish us away, Hillary.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

At first it was "anyone but Hillary" because of the sleazy, shoddy campaign she ran in 2008 as an entitled carpetbagger from New York.

Then along came Bernie, with the REAL Democratic philosophy and the credibility to attract true liberal Democrats. We REALLY have his back, and will put our money where our mouths are. Put that in your golden pipe and smoke it.

How's that internal polling look?

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