2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Bernie or Bust"?
TALKING POINTS 101: I have heard a lot of talk about the "Bernie or Bust" movement.
I haven't heard anything however about the Democrats lifting a finger to try and attract the Sanders supporters.
Should we give that movement a name as well?
We can complete the circle connecting the Democratic Party with the GOP by naming it the "Fuck You Liberals" coalition.
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Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)OneAngryDemocrat
(2,060 posts)What a thoughtful response.
NOT.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)DUrec
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)really.........Bernie's supporters will not wait til later. They will be too busy exposing the lies she and her cohorts keep dishing out.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)We can complete the circle connecting the Democratic Party with the GOP by naming it the "Fuck You Liberals" coalition.
Are you saying the DNC is becoming one with the Republican party? Or you are saying to call the Republican party a group too , thus naming them all and completing the circle?
I do wonder if both parties will break to something more like Europe, with Liberal, Conservative,Labor, Socialist, etc... Countries are benefited by joining together, unity and all...but are we hurt by so few options? Should the Dems have sub sections, like liberal, conservative...etc? It seems easier to corrupt a single party or a couple, but maybe it is harder to corrupt a big party since it gets more attention?
OneAngryDemocrat
(2,060 posts)The Democratic Party has gone through a fundamental shift to the right over the last 30 years. The contemporary Democratic Party's economic platform isnt much different then the Republican Party's economic platform of the 1980s.
Free-trade, unionbusting, the whole ball of wax.
And now we have Hillary Clinton questioning Bernie Sanders legitimacy as a Democrat.
Subliminal message: No REAL democrat would EVER vote for a fake democrat like Bernie Sanders.
If Bernie Sanders isn't a bona fide Democrat then neither am I.
The woman is treading on very treacherous territory.
Her campaign is in the gutter and unworthy of someone who aspires to be president of United States.
I argue that the Democratic Party has moved away from its real, bona fide, base.
I argue that they have done so for simple greed and profit.
Bernie Sanders represents a return to lost Party values and principles.
If the party doesn't want to buy that argument, then they don't want his supporters to support them. It is just that simple.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I am not a fan of the negative words in the OP, but then again your are OneAngryDemocrat perhaps you could be OneAngryButALittleMoreNicelyWordedDemocrat. :p
I was however really bothered by...
GLENN THRUSH: When he puts his head on a pillow at night, do you think he goes to sleep a Democrat?
SEC. CLINTON: [Laughs] Well, I can't answer that, Glenn, because he's a relatively new Democrat, and, in fact, I'm not even sure he is one. He's running as one. So I don't know quite how to characterize him. I'll leave that to him. But I know there's a big difference between Democrats and Republicans, and I know that Senator Sanders spends a lot of time attacking my husband, attacking President Obama, you know, calling President Obama weak and disappointing, and actually making a move in 2012 to recruit somebody to run a primary against him. I rarely hear him say anything negative about George W. Bush, who I think wrecked our economy, just not to put too fine a point on it.
GLENN THRUSH: Right.
Time Stamp 56:28
https://soundcloud.com/off-message/hillary-clinton-has-had-enough-of-bernie-sanders
It reminded me too much of this...
CNN: You don't believe the Senator Obama is a Muslime?
SEC. CLINTON:Of...of course not... I mean that's... you know... that there is no basis for that. You know I take him... oooon the basis of what he says, and you know there isn't reason to doubt that.
CNN: And you've said you take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a mus... ?
CNN: (at the same time) ...lim and or implying right?
SEC. CLINTON: (at the same time) No, no I'm not (or good?) there's no... no there... there is nothing to base that on... [her eyes widen] As far As I know.
Source:
It was too close to the whole Trump Obama...
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snowy owl
(2,145 posts)I mean between Bushes and Clintons!