So why did Clinton get to rob a pledged Wisconsin delegate from Sanders?

[mhatrw]

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin

Bernie Sanders 567,936 56.6% * 86 delegates = 48.7 delegates
Hillary Clinton 432,767 43.1% * 86 delegates = 37.1 delegates

If we remove the 3,201 who voted for "other" from the pool, Sanders gets 56.75% of the vote to Clinton's 43.25%. That's 48.8 delegates for Sanders and 37.2 for Clinton.

So how did Clinton get 38 to Sanders' 48? Does anyone know the undemocratic details?

[LiberalFighter]

1. Because that is not how it is calculated.

There are 8 congressional districts and each district is calculated for the delegates allocated.
There are 19 at large delegates that are calculated at the state level.
There are 10 PLEOs that are calculated at the state level.


Wisconsin Delegates

[mhatrw]

2. I found the details. I really am getting to hate the way this game is rigged.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/WI-D#0405

Sanders got screwed in every single Congressional district with 6 delegate because he needed 58.335% of the vote to split these delegates 4-2 instead of 3-3.

Sanders got 54.73% of the vote in CD-1, but Clinton still got 3 delegates out of the 6.

Sanders got 57.42% of the vote in CD-6, but Clinton still got 3 delegates out of the 6.

Sanders got 57.81% of the vote in CD-7, but Clinton still got 3 delegates out of the 6.

Sanders got 57.46% of the vote in CD-8, but Clinton still got 3 delegates out of the 6.

Sanders beat Clinton by at least 14.8% in CD-6, CD-7 & CD-8, but split the CD awarded delegates evenly in each of these districts. That totally sucks and long voter lines and or disenfranchised voters could easily have accounted for Sanders falling short of 58.335% in each of these districts.

The arcane methods by which Democrats award primary delegates really need to change to become more Democratic.

[msongs]

3. yet when it benefits bernie is okey dokey and a - ok lol nt

[mhatrw]

4. No, it is not. It's arcane and undemocratic no matter who it benefits.

Proportional delegates on a state by state basis with no superdelegates is the fairest way to go period.

Caucuses are fine if you want them, but just stop rounding delegates to each location. We can use decimals now and then round at the state level.

[Recursion]

6. Since the EC is winner-take-all wouldn't it make more sense to do the primaries that way too?

I go back and forth on that one.

[Recursion]

5. It's because of how the votes in the Congressional districts broke down

You have to get X% above 50% to get the extra delegate, and Sanders didn't quite get there in some close ones.

[jillan]

7. Can we just get rid of all these delegates, super or regular and go by the popular vote?

Why it didn't happen after the nitemare of the 2000 election is beyond me.

And yes Hillary supporters, I KNOW she is winning the popular vote, which is fine. If she wins the popular vote after all the states have voted than she deserves to be the nominee.

But when you start adding in delegates, super delegates, electoral college it just feels like our democracy is being crushed.

Let the people vote. Period.