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Bernie Sanders gets the New York treatment: (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
These little town blues . . . . ucrdem Apr 2016 #1
Don't u worry bout Bernie & New York. He'll handle NY fine. He's from there. Thanks for your concern highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2
he used to be from here. It's a completely different place geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
He's a New Yorker. Born there. Raised there. Done that. A New Yorker is a New Yorker. She's not. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #6
You know what New Yorkers aren't? Nativists. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10
I moved to New York 840high Apr 2016 #11
I lived in Vermont, I live in California now flamingdem Apr 2016 #12
I agree with you, flamingdem. Apparently some, probably who moved to NY, may not. It's kind of highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #13
I think he is too! And I'm glad to see Californian Zappa flamingdem Apr 2016 #15
I'm not too Californian, but I am an artist, and Zappa was one of those. And I have lived in highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #16
You're from Vermont? I had no idea... Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #17
Are you too! flamingdem Apr 2016 #18
Explain what makes you such an expert, because I don't agree. I was born in New York, highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #14
+1 RedCappedBandit Apr 2016 #21
Carole King stumped for Hillary in NY as a New Yorker and she is, but she's lived in CA or Idaho Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #19
Good case in point. Situational ethics. Pretty prevalent in Hillary's presentation. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #24
Bernie got frazzled and turned his anger on Hillary. oasis Apr 2016 #3
you mean the tabloid that calls the POTUS "Bam" azurnoir Apr 2016 #5
I wonder if Huey Freeman whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #7
Actually it's a badge of honor NWCorona Apr 2016 #8
NY media hazes every politician. Beacool Apr 2016 #9
That's the Daily News treatment. The call President Obama 'Bam' and most NYers do not..... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #20
Nice of you to choice their voice for them whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #22
Bernie Wins Wisconsin on Honesty and Inspiration; Gets Shamed on Cover of New York Paper Octafish Apr 2016 #23
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
2. Don't u worry bout Bernie & New York. He'll handle NY fine. He's from there. Thanks for your concern
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:34 PM
Apr 2016


She's the carpetbagger.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. You know what New Yorkers aren't? Nativists.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016

People move here from all over the world. Immigrants, transplants from the Midwest.

What do you call a New Yorker who moves to Vermont and spends virtually his entire adult life there?

A Vermonter.

It was great for Bernie to swing by the Bronx--had he been there since driving through on his way to Vermont?

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
13. I agree with you, flamingdem. Apparently some, probably who moved to NY, may not. It's kind of
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

like the game "who's a Democrat".

I was born in Manhattan, have been a Democrat for 47 years, and to me Bernie is definitely both a solid Democrat and a New Yorker.

flamingdem

(39,324 posts)
15. I think he is too! And I'm glad to see Californian Zappa
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

as you avatar. I'll admit I'm a tad Californian too, but as a New Yorker I deserve the right to make fun of Californians.

Another thing. If you have a New York accent, you're always a New Yorker, that's how people perceive you. Can you imagine a British person saying oh I'm a Texan with a British accent, not going to work.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
16. I'm not too Californian, but I am an artist, and Zappa was one of those. And I have lived in
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

California and Paris and Munich and Boston, after living in New York.

However, I am a New Yorker. Why? I was born there, I lived there, I understand and feel the City deeply, and I'll put my experience there up against anybody. Never fails to feel like home.

I'm sure Bernie would too, and heck, anybody who listens to him or hangs out with him for a minute can see the New Yorker in him. And I want that New Yorker fighting for me, as only a New Yorker can.

Hillary Clinton does not feel like a New Yorker to me. Wellesley, yes. Sometimes a little Arkansas. Washington D.C., definitely. I can also see her growing up in Park Ridge, outside of Chicago. But New York? Not so much.

flamingdem

(39,324 posts)
18. Are you too!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

Well my mom is and my dad moved there to teach when I was in high school. So I started to spend a lot of time there still do in the summer when LA gets a bit too hot. I went to crazy hippie Goddard College - the place where Jane Sanders was President for a bit.

Noticed that Rachel Maddow pronounced Goddard College like Godard the French filmmaker. That told me she doesn't know about the era of crazy Goddard even though she lives in New England. She's a youngster. It's kind of an obscure part of history I suppose but now that scene is on the national stage via Bernie.

I'd live in Vermont but for the winters, early springs, late falls. That leaves the last week of May to mid October, then brrr.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
14. Explain what makes you such an expert, because I don't agree. I was born in New York,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:03 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:53 AM - Edit history (1)

and lived there for many years. And though I've since lived in California and Paris and Munich and Boston, New York is and always will be my hometown.

And all the New Yorkers I know accept me as such, and know/feel it in their bones, that I am made of New York, wherever I am.

Bernie too. I believe any true New Yorker, without an axe to grind, who listens to him or hangs out with him for a minute can see the New Yorker in him. And I want that New Yorker fighting for me, as only a New Yorker can.

Hillary Clinton does not feel like a New Yorker to me. Wellesley, yes. Sometimes a little Arkansas. Washington D.C., definitely. I can also see her growing up in Park Ridge, outside of Chicago. But New York? Not so much.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
21. +1
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016

Growing up here makes one a New Yorker.

Amuses me how transplants try to define, for native New Yorkers, what it means to be from New York.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Carole King stumped for Hillary in NY as a New Yorker and she is, but she's lived in CA or Idaho
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

since 1968, not in NY at all, not a bit and no where near it. She grew up there and did her early work there. Her NY endorsement touted by Hillary and by DU's Bernie Hating Hillary Supporters.....situational ethics? You bet!

What Carole King ('a New Yorker by birth and by heart') wishes you knew about Hillary Clinton
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511679560

So Carole is a New Yorker but Bernie is a Vermonter. It's always 'different' for Bernie.....

oasis

(49,408 posts)
3. Bernie got frazzled and turned his anger on Hillary.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

He said she should be asked to apologize for Iraq War fatalities and for millions of lost jobs with her trade policies.

He's beginning to lose it (his cools that is) he's already lost the nomination.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
8. Actually it's a badge of honor
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:41 PM
Apr 2016

They weren't kind to Obama either

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You probably think those are funny too

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. That's the Daily News treatment. The call President Obama 'Bam' and most NYers do not.....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

It's odd to see them endorsed here on DU and identified as being the voice of NYC considering their ill treatment of the President.....but hey, any port in a storm.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. Bernie Wins Wisconsin on Honesty and Inspiration; Gets Shamed on Cover of New York Paper
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Talk about political shenanigans or conspiracies, you also need to talk about the roles of propaganda and disinformation. To wit...

The Big Lie:



The above would represent libel of a private individual, but NOT of a public figure.

Here's the Whole Truth:



Bernie Wins Wisconsin on Honesty and Inspiration; Gets Shamed on Cover of New York Paper

By Pam Martens and Russ Martens
Wall Street on Parade: April 6, 2016

According to ABC exit polls, Senator Bernie Sanders big win of 56.5 percent to Hillary Clinton’s 43.1 percent in the Democratic primary yesterday in Wisconsin was fueled by voters belief in his honesty, his ability to inspire and confidence that he can improve the economy. But the very day that Sanders should be enjoying that big win, the New York Daily News has seen fit to devote its full front cover of today’s newspaper to shaming Sanders.

What did Sanders do to infuriate the New York Daily News? Absolutely nothing. The newspaper has twisted an interview its editorial board conducted with Sanders on April 1 into a pretzel to come up with a headline screaming that Sanders “callously defends gunmakers” against the relatives of the victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting, who are attempting to sue the gun manufacturer for selling the assault weapon that killed the children and school staff.

What Sanders actually said in that interview is that (1) he would vote to ban assault weapons like the one used in Sandy Hook; (2) he supports suing gun manufacturers if they knowingly sell a gun to people exhibiting suspicious behavior; (3) he would “significantly strengthen and expand the instant background check,” (4) “do away with the gun show loophole, where people now are buying guns from unlicensed dealers,” and (5) “do away with the straw man provision, where you can buy a gun legally and then sell it to somebody who’s a criminal.” (Read the full transcript here.)

SNIP...

Clearly, Wisconsin Democrats and Independents who handed Sanders a 13 point victory over Clinton want experience infused with a track record of honesty. According to ABC exit polls, 90 percent of voters in yesterday’s Democratic primary “identified Sanders as honest and trustworthy” versus “57 percent who said the same about Clinton.”

The ABC exit poll also found that “Three-quarters of Democratic primary voters in Wisconsin are worried about the direction of the economy. Nearly four in 10 expect life for the next generation of Americans to be worse than life today, vs. only a third who think it’ll be better.”

CONTINUED w/links, sources, etc...

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/04/bernie-wins-wisconsin-on-honesty-and-inspiration-gets-shamed-on-cover-of-new-york-paper/



The entire article from Pam and Russ Martens is worth reading, remembering and recommending.

Questions: Isn't the owner of that paper also a funder of Hillary's 2016 campaign?
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