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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:56 PM Apr 2016

I think Bernie gives us our best chance in November


For a few reasons but mainly because...

A. Bernie draws more independent, and even some repug voters who are disgusted with their party.

B. Hillary cannot accomplish this with her perceived lack of trustability Whether you think it's justified or not the fact is even many in our own party don't trust or like her at a far greater rate than Bernie's negatives.
And as far as independents and republicans go...I seriously doubt if she'd get any of their working-class to vote for her.


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I think Bernie gives us our best chance in November (Original Post) SHRED Apr 2016 OP
Wait till he is fully vetted .. then he will run 20 points below Trump. n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #1
So he'll be just like Clinton? Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #4
Meh ... fail n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #7
Maybe. Not 16 hidden posts fail Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #12
Bogus hides by the Bernie crowd .. doesn't bother me !!! n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #13
Oh, of course. Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #14
I may have 20 by net week .. enjoy the count !! n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #15
Again, you demonstrate your LWolf Apr 2016 #8
Yeah .. let all the stuff come out cosmicone Apr 2016 #9
All that "stuff" LWolf Apr 2016 #11
No it is not cosmicone Apr 2016 #19
She is not well liked RobertEarl Apr 2016 #2
I agree, he can build bridges that support Dem values & ideas... Mudcat Apr 2016 #3
If she does somehow manage to survive the scandals and Bernie's insurgence corkhead Apr 2016 #5
The Republicans would file impeachment papers on Day 2. libdem4life Apr 2016 #6
^^^^ this is going to happen flamingdem Apr 2016 #10
Day 2 ? TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #16
Right. Because impeaching a Clinton has always worked out so well for them. (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #17
Yes, business as usual. Helped the country, libdem4life Apr 2016 #20
I think Mr. Sanders and Ms. Clinton will both do fine in November bigwillq Apr 2016 #18
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
14. Oh, of course.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

There is no other way one gets 16 hides. Can't be what you are saying. That's not it. It's a damn conspiracy.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. Yeah .. let all the stuff come out
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

his tax returns, Jane Sanders' dealings at Burlington College, the Caribbean resort and trust

Why is he not releasing his tax returns again?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
19. No it is not
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016

There is a two-page 1040 from 2014 -- WITHOUT the schedules and itemized lists.

My 1040 could show $23 in income from say Schedule C -- but it could be a $87 million, 23 dollars in gross receipts and 87 million of deductions. We want to see the schedules!! That is what he is hiding

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. She is not well liked
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

Every time she goes after Bernie in her negative campaign he gets more attention, money and votes.

Serves her right to be losing.

Mudcat

(179 posts)
3. I agree, he can build bridges that support Dem values & ideas...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

with those outside of the party, and even those who may never even be a part of the party. Similar to a European political coalition.

I understand the desire for loyalty to an organization, but what about a greater loyalty to the ideals and values the organization supposedly exists to uphold?

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
5. If she does somehow manage to survive the scandals and Bernie's insurgence
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

the only thing she will have to run on in the general is that the alternative is worse.

If she somehow managed to get elected she would not be able to get an airport re-naming through Congress, she would be completely ineffectual.

This is not the way to run a country.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. The Republicans would file impeachment papers on Day 2.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure this gleeful potential is standing at the ready. Sad to say.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
16. Day 2 ?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

They will awaiting her at the bottom of the podium after the victory speech .... she is pure political poison .

People think they have seen an uncooperative senate now ? Wait and see how bad it can get with her in charge .

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. Yes, business as usual. Helped the country,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

Helped our reputation abroad. Just one big legislative party.

HRC does not have the personality or the former time in office. The first couple to attract impeachment, oh joy .

Also, the internet/social media did not figure into it. She may get past the Democrat left and the Third Way folk, but we know absolutely what comes next. The Republicans didn't rabidly hate or start out to get Bill even before the get - go.

No comparison.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
18. I think Mr. Sanders and Ms. Clinton will both do fine in November
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

Women and other minority groups will vote for the DEM nominee, I believe, and that will be enough to put the DEM in the White House.

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