Hillary Clinton getting run through the coals on Twitter for using Sandy Hook as an attack

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/717797172154998784

People are very disgusted by the use of Sandy Hook as a prop in her political negative attacks

Edit: She also has her momma's twitter account ghost writing through some of the comments and slinging mud back. Trying to insinuate sanders campaign is attacking the Sandy Hook principal's daughter. SICK!

https://mobile.twitter.com/DorothyRodham/status/717799804101730304

editX2: So it appears Clinton's mom is dead so not only is she using her Mom's account to sling mud, her mom is dead so it looks bad if anyone responds to those charges in a negative way.

[daleanime]

1. Yeahup.....

[dchill]

2. Good.

[NWCorona]

3. And rightfully so!

That was a sick move and no doubt arranged by Brock.

[Dragonfli]

12. Next Brock will try out his favorite attack, the one he made his bones with

A "Jane Sanders is a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty" meme just to further confirm he is and always has been a slimy sleaze merchant for hire, why not? He needs to keep his slime cred intact to get the next big gig.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

60. HAHA!

[rurallib]

4. If she is the nominee she needs to get rid of her idiot (and I do mean idiot) advisers

[rhett o rick]

7. She picks advisors that tell her what she wants to hear. nm

[Milestone]

24. I see what you did there.

[notadmblnd]

27. People won't go against her. Even when she's wrong.

Hillary Clinton, already an accomplished lawyer and activist before she married Bill Clinton, took on a larger role in her husband’s White House than previous first ladies — especially around the effort to reform the health care system. Her role inevitably caused friction with turf-jealous White House staff.

Joan Baggett, who served as assistant to the president for political affairs, said people didn’t feel comfortable pushing back on the first lady, even when she was wrong.

“She would blow up over something that she misinterpreted. Again, you can’t take her on, that’s not my boss. You can’t take on the First Lady,” Baggert said. “I remember one time in one of these meetings where she was blowing up about [Bill Clinton’s] staff and how we were all incompetent and he was having to be the mechanic and drive the car and do everything, that we weren’t capable of anything.”

Baggert added that Clinton would chew out staffers in front of their colleagues, which made things especially awkward. “Sometimes she’d be in those meetings and I’d think, ‘Please don’t let her yell at me,’” Baggert added.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-strengths-and-anger-white-house-revealed

[FreakinDJ]

30. Sounds like a little tyrannical dictator

[merrily]

52. She was certainly not an accomplished lawyer before she met Bill. Her health care role got a

Democratic Congress to reject a health care bill.

[PatrickforO]

101. Not much of a leader.

I'm thinking her campaign is getting desperate. This defeat and disqualify thing will backfire, Bernie will keep winning and the Clinton campaign will implode, with staffers talking out of school, jumping ship, getting fired and stabbing each other in the back.

Just like last time. Clinton can't keep it together.

And if she can't keep THIS together, how will she do as POTUS???

[Skwmom]

5. Upset parents saying this is one thing, a politician pushing this for political gain is disgusting.

[me b zola]

34. Clinton has reminded me a bit of an ambulance chaser during this primary

Better call Saul! Although Saul has more humanity to him.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. good. it's disgusting political pandering and not what she said in 2008

[Matt_in_STL]

8. This may go down as the most tone deaf campaign in history

I have never seen so many attempts at dirty politics backfire in so many ways. It really is something to behold as she fully implodes.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

9. Also is this the grandma joining in on the mudslinging?

https://mobile.twitter.com/DorothyRodham/status/717799804101730304

[azmom]

16. Damn. She's got her momma

Fighting Bernie.

[artislife]

35. Her mother is not someone I respect.

First, she raised that woman and now this.

Enabler.

[BernieforPres2016]

46. Don't forget about Hillary's 2 ne'er do well brothers Hugh and Tony

Also products of Dorothy and Hugh Rodham. I don't give a damn what any of them think about anything.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/hillary-clinton-brothers-hugh-tony-rodham-116674

<The visa flap is far from the first instance in which Tony Rodham or his brother Hugh embarrassed their big sister. In 1999, the brothers organized a company to harvest and sell hazelnuts from the former Soviet Republic of Georgia, and came to be seen as too friendly with a political rival of the country’s president, Eduard A. Shevardnadze, a strong American ally.

That led to a rebuke from Bill Clinton’s national security adviser, Samuel Berger, who pressed the brothers to abandon the effort. When they persisted, saying they intended only to distribute the nuts, the White House press secretary Joe Lockhart scolded them yet again.

After the Clintons left office in 2001, word emerged that Hugh Rodham had taken some $400,000 in fees from a client to lobby for a last-minute presidential pardon from his brother-in-law. “I love my brother,” Hillary Clinton said at the time. “I’m just extremely disappointed in this terrible misjudgment that he made.”>


Graft and a sense of entitlement seems to run in the Rodham family.

[Bjornsdotter]

53. Her mom is deceased n/t

[azmom]

55. This is her abuela?

[okasha]

56. Maybe Bernie raised her from the dead

while he was being just like Jesus.

[Bjornsdotter]

58. Just like Jesus and Bernie

.....I will turn the other cheek.

[okasha]

64. Allow me to present you with both.

[artislife]

88. Is this a dig because he is a Jew? nt

[okasha]

97. Obviously not.

It isn't even aimed at Bernie.

Or Jesus, either.

[artislife]

98. Not obvious.

[awake]

10. Is it possible to run any worse campaign than her advisers are running.

Why take the low road and now using victims of gun violins as political pawns, she could be doing so much better.

[MisterP]

11. this is just one step above those InfoWars cultists that call the parents

and say that they're "crisis actors" who never had kids and it was a plot to taek uhr guhns

[azmom]

13. She will stoop lower than a snakes

Belly. Pathetic and reeks of desperation.

[Hoyt]

14. Let me guess, rabid white middleclass gun fanciers and /or Clinton haters are upset.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

20. That is a very disgusting comment...

You should self-delete it, makes you look callous

[mythology]

44. Says the person bashing Sandy Hook families for being upset with a law that Sanders voted for

Callus indeed.

[Press Virginia]

47. One wonders why they aren't suing the state of CT for registering the gun in question

Surely the state is just as liable as the manufacturer who sold the gun to a federally licensed dealer.

[Kalidurga]

50. They really need to take their anger to the level of changing the Constitution.

[Press Virginia]

51. If they were honest they would

[Kalidurga]

54. Well that is where the problem is. As long as guns are legal for most people...

It's unconstitutional to sue the manufacturer for making a gun that works as it is designed to do.

[malokvale77]

79. Would you like to get a glimpse of callous?

I would like to remind people that the NY primary is the anniversary of one of President Clinton's finest hours:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Fatalities of April 19

In all, 76 Branch Davidians died and nine survived the fire on April 19 (five others had been killed in the initial ATF raid and buried on the grounds, one had been killed by ATF after the raid, and 35 had left during the FBI standoff). Fatalities included:

Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian
Paiges Gent, 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

That whole shit show brought us the Oklahoma City bombing.

[Lizzie Poppet]

76. It's a Hoyt gun-related comment...

...and thus can't be expected to be rational, much less civil.

[malokvale77]

80. Indeed it is.

One friend gets shot in the street is worth more than the millions killed and/or maimed by the Clinton/Bush war machine.

Or these poor folks:Fatalities of April 19

In all, 76 Branch Davidians died[9] and nine survived the fire on April 19 (five others had been killed in the initial ATF raid and buried on the grounds, one had been killed by ATF after the raid, and 35 had left during the FBI standoff).[65] Fatalities included:

Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[74]
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

I'm not even going to get into HRC's refusal to ban cluster bombs.

Yet somehow Bernie Sanders is responsible for Hoyt's pain.

[Punkingal]

15. She is disgusting.

[artislife]

36. +1

[Jefferson23]

17. You know why Obama's gun legislation failed after Newtown? FOUR DEMOCRATS, not Bernie, voted

AGAINST it. That is what the families wanted. These are the people to call out, not Bernie.

Four Democrats broke with their party and voted against the amendment, assuring that the measure would come up short of the 60 votes needed for passage.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-control-vote-democrats-against-background-checks-2013-4

[Else You Are Mad]

18. Using a horrible tragedy...

For one's political gain is disgusting & vile.

[SammyWinstonJack]

89. That's our Hillary...disgusting and vile.

[CoffeeCat]

19. Commoditizing slain children

for political gain.

A new disgusting low for Hillary. And that's saying a lot.

[MelungeonWoman]

21. Clinton has reached a new low.

Nobody could do shit for those kids or their grieving parents but they're certainly handy to use for props. She's fucking nasty.

[AzDar]

22. Scummy and Desperate... Clintonian.

[arcane1]

23. If any republican tried something this ghoulish, DU would UNANIMOUSLY condemn it.

[Nanjeanne]

25. As someone who lives very close to Sandy Hook and lived through this

Horrible tragedy with my community, I was offended she did that as well. To say Sanders thought more about the gun manufacturers than the children was beyond the pale. Lanza was responsible for the tragedy. Lanza's mother purchased all those guns legally. We need real gun reform and we need to stop assault weapons and semi assault weapons from getting into the hands of criminals and mentally ill. As long as it is legal to make guns, you cannot sue a manufacturer for producing a legal product that did not malfunction.

Turning that tragedy into a talking point for Clinton and using the horror of those children (and adults Sec. Clinton) was not a smart move.

[artislife]

37. ^^^Truth!

[highprincipleswork]

26. Hillary has no shame. Not what I'm looking for in a President.

[slipslidingaway]

28. Great picture on there ...

[tabasco]

29. To be expected with her sleazy campaign manager.

All their nasty, unfounded attacks will blow up in their faces.

[dsc]

31. yes how dare those horrid people who lost love ones

support the one and only candidate in the race who isn't an NRA shrill.

[artislife]

38. You don't get it. She's Annie Oakley.

Don't you remember her waxing on about how her grampy taught her how to shoot? Good, hardworking white folk etc.


She shapes shifts from one election to another, from one state to another, from one speech to another

[ThePhilosopher04]

43. The only candidates in the race who are NRA shrills are running for the Republican nomination.

Of course you know that.

[Nanjeanne]

70. You don't get it. They can support who ever they want. That doesnt

have anything to do with her disgraceful tweet. We aren't talking about the victims in Sandy Hook (some of which I know). Why do Clintonites always conflate things?

[malokvale77]

83. How about the loved ones of these?

Fatalities of April 19

In all, 76 Branch Davidians died[9] and nine survived the fire on April 19 (five others had been killed in the initial ATF raid and buried on the grounds, one had been killed by ATF after the raid, and 35 had left during the FBI standoff).[65] Fatalities included:

Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[74]
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

Do they matter?

[MFM008]

32. So no one thinks its an issue?

To not allow the parents of slaughtered kids to sue gun manufacturers?
Come on.
Sanders screwed up, why didn't he think about his answer?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

33. Did the gun manufacturer break any laws?

Then nope.

[LAS14]

73. No. So we need new laws!!! Sanders...

... is opposed to useful new laws. See this post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1662319

[malokvale77]

81. Is this OK?

Coming up on the NY primary: Fatalities of April 19

In all, 76 Branch Davidians died[9] and nine survived the fire on April 19 (five others had been killed in the initial ATF raid and buried on the grounds, one had been killed by ATF after the raid, and 35 had left during the FBI standoff).[65] Fatalities included:

Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[74]
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

[ThePhilosopher04]

39. No, it is not, and should not be an issue.

Manufacturers of any product should never be held liable for the personal conduct of a private citizen (non-employee), unless they actively promote, incite and/or encourage the conduct. I personally would like to see all guns disappear from the face of the earth, but that's not reality in this country, unfortunately. Bernie is 100% right on this issue. Hillary is using tragedy to score political points, which is disgusting. But that's who she is.

[kcr]

100. Does no one remember what courts do? What they're for?

And someone in this thread is bringing Waco into this. Waco! What the hell!

I thought Bernie was supposed to be moving the party to the left. Holy shit.

[ThePhilosopher04]

104. WTF are you talking about?

[kcr]

105. I'm talking about people who claim to be liberals supporting right wing BS tort reform. n/t

[ThePhilosopher04]

108. Suing manufacturers and dealers has nothing to so with

Being right wing or wanting tort reform. I'm as hardcore, anti gun as anybody but I don't think you can go around suing product makers and sellers for something an individual does that is illegal. That's where Bernie stands and hes right. Personally l, I think the 2nd Amendment has been wrongly interpreted and guns she be more heavily regulated or even banned, but that's not where we are as a society unfortunately. Clinton folks are trying to distort Bernies position to make him seem like a guns rights fanatic and thats simply not the case.

[kcr]

110. If you don't think people should be able to go around suing product makers and sellers

except under certain conditions, then you support tort reform. That's not distorting anything. I guess you didn't realize that was tort reform was about. But it is. I hate to be the one to break it to you. The idea that people shouldn't be able to sue companies freely because that's a bad thing is a right wing idea sold to the masses to protect companies and their profits. That's the only reason. It does nothing to protect us. It is not progressive in anyway, and until now very few progressives usually ever supported such a thing.

[ThePhilosopher04]

112. Using your logic ...

you apparently believe If someone purchases gasoline and uses it to burn down someone's house whom they don't like, the gas station and the refinery it came from should be held liable for the arson. There's nothing progressive about that point of view, just irrational stupidity.

[kcr]

113. I have made no statement about liability

So, no. I have no idea how you extrapolated that logic from anything I've said. There is nothing progressive about restricting the ability of the American people to sue corporations. That in no way makes a statement about anyone's liability.

[ThePhilosopher04]

114. It's not restrciting anything. It's a matter of who should be

held liable or accountable for illegal acts performed using legally manufactured and sold products. In cases where manufacturers encourage or facilitate illegal behavior, obviously they should be held accountable and Bernie has stated that time and again.

[kcr]

115. No, it isn't.

The matter of who should held liable is decided in court, when a suit is brought forth. Not before. Bernie is wrong.

[ThePhilosopher04]

116. Laws are written by congress, not judges.

[kcr]

117. Okay. I didn't say judges wrote laws.

Do you even know what happens in a court of law? Or what they're for? Do you know about juries? Verdicts? You've heard of those things, right?

[ThePhilosopher04]

118. You make zero sense. You might want to move on

[kcr]

119. Okay, I will take that as a no. n/t

[artislife]

40. It isn't like a pinto that catches fire

A gun is made to shoot bullets. It did what is was made to do. If the gun had exploded and hurt the shooter, then the manufacturer would be held responsible.

I don't believe in selling semi automatics, but I do believe in licensing the use of firearms and making people have to have insurance on it. That seems to be the road to how to regulate how people use a legal item that performs the way it is built to be used.

[ky_dem]

45. I've never heard the idea of having insurance on guns before

but it's a fascinating idea - and seems like it would really encourage gun owners to not sell in the secondary market - do you happen to have any sources I could read? thanks!

[Press Virginia]

49. They would no longer have the gun so they wouldn't need the insurance

[ky_dem]

93. but the new buyer would & thus a paper trail which is now sorely lacking in secondary sales

and you could require proof of sale to allow someone to legally cancel their insurance - until that point they would be responsible at least financially for anything done by that gun - that's why I find the idea intriguing

[Press Virginia]

94. I can print a receipt on my computer. It doesn't mean I paid for or sold anything

how could this be enforced in any meaningful way?

[ThePhilosopher04]

42. Why should they be able to sue?

Forget the fact you or I may be anti-gun, how or why should the manufacturer be held liable? Car manufacturers aren't held liable for accidents caused by private citizens. Baseball bat manufacturers aren't held liable if someone attacks another person with a bat. Knife manufacturers aren't held liable when someone stabs another person. Military contractors aren't held liable when bombs miss their targets (maybe they should be).

[Press Virginia]

48. Why not sue the state, which approved the sale and licensed the gun?

Surely it must be just as liable as the manufacturer who sold it to a federal and state approved gun dealer

[LAS14]

72. I sure think it's an issue. And it's important...

... to realize that they're not wanting to bring a simple-minded lawsuit saying that the manufacturers are responsible for the murders. They want to bring a lawsuit about the manufacturers' makreting practices. See this post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1662319

[malokvale77]

84. Should the families of blown apart by cluster bombs...

get to sue the manufactures? Hillary loves cluster bombs.

[Kittycat]

41. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Honduras.

Who am I missing here?

Fuck her and this bullshit. Exploiting the deaths of innocent children for political gain while fundraising with the NRA? Not to mention her time as SOS making arms deals that killed innocents, overturning governments that caused the mass deaths of innocents, dropping fucking clusterbombs, and using drones that killed innocents - all while the Clinton Foundation took in money from associated governments - not fucked up at all.

[malokvale77]

86. This...

There is no better defender of death and destruction than Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Fuck her pretending to care about the children who died at Sandy Hook.

[George II]

57. No, people are very disgusted with Sanders' position on Sandy Hook, Newtown, and....

....his protection of the gun manufacturers.

To try to twist this and gun violence against children and blacks into another negative Clinton story is ludicrous.

We thought you were better than this.

[malokvale77]

90. Get a grip.

Hillary Clinton refused to ban cluster bombs.

Her husband, the EX president with her push allowed this: Fatalities of April 19

In all, 76 Branch Davidians died[9] and nine survived the fire on April 19 (five others had been killed in the initial ATF raid and buried on the grounds, one had been killed by ATF after the raid, and 35 had left during the FBI standoff).[65] Fatalities included:

Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[74]
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

Hillary does not care about anybody or anything, but being the first woman POtUS. She is not worthy.

[Hoyt]

59. Ad by manufacturer of gun used at Sandy Hook. Tell me Bushmaster is innocent

and deserves Sanders' protection.

[riversedge]

71. That Bushmaster ad equtes a gun with manhood. whow.

[riversedge]

61. Why are you hitting on Hillary's mother?? She died several years ago-. Pretty

Desperate and shameful to be doing this.


..................................
From your OP:--YOUR comment
Edit: She also has her momma going through some of the comments and slinging mud back. Trying to insinuate sanders campaign is attacking the Sandy Hook principal's daughter. SICK!

https://mobile.twitter.com/DorothyRodham/status/717799804101730304

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

62. edit: I actually looked it up and it is her mother but someone is ghostwriting for her...

Even worse than being her mother it is a ghost writer for a deceased person slinging mud at Bernie

[riversedge]

65. And you did not check it out and brought it over to DU. YOU did it!

[riversedge]

67. You edited it 2x but you still included the link. Take it down. You are using Hillary's mother

account [fake or real]--for your own smear Hillary purposes. Don't you see how wrong that is?? Are you that insensitive?? YOU are one doing it. You are responsible for using Hillary's dead mother for your own political smear tactics.


From your 2nd edit.


Edit: She also has her momma's twitter account ghost writing through some of the comments and slinging mud back. Trying to insinuate sanders campaign is attacking the Sandy Hook principal's daughter. SICK!

https://mobile.twitter.com/DorothyRodham/status/717799804101730304

editX2: So it appears Clinton's mom is dead so not only is she using her Mom's account to sling mud, her mom is dead so it looks bad if anyone responds to those charges in a negative way.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

68. No it stays up...

Using a deceased person to launch attacks on supporters of a candidate is disgusting... It needs to be seen. If you don't like it you can add me to ignore.

[riversedge]

69. "Using a deceased person to launch attacks on supporters of a candidate is disgusting." You are the

one doing the exact thing you say is disgusting. SHAME ON YOU

[Hoyt]

75. Isn't it funny how that works? But it's OK when they do it, for some reason.

[malokvale77]

92. You have become a joke.

Like it or not, your friend is not worth more than the millions of others killed due to the war machine that HRC has sold to the world.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

63. That really puts a damper on the Sandy Hook smear celebration thread.

[Lordquinton]

77. This will blow over in a couple days

But Clinton will still be taken to task over her actions regarding Iraq, and others.

[mcar]

66. OK

[JesterCS]

74. Pay no attention to the GOP behind the curtain! n/t

[RepubliCON-Watch]

78. Well, a week ago I predicted that she's seeing 2008 flashbacks...

Now, she's advanced those and well, I think this is the beginning of the end for her.

[Jitter65]

82. Why, because she defends the parents' right to have their day in court?

Twitter means BS supporters freaking out. Put yourself in the place of those parents. Losing their children and now being told they should have no way to seek some kind of recompense?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

96. Under the law there is no recompense from going after the gun manufacturer...

The gun manufacturer did not do anything illegal. The guns used in the massacre were legally purchased by his mother.

[JTFrog]

85. Once again, your posts say far more about you than Hillary.

Keep up the good work.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

95. Aw, thanks for the passive aggressive snark...

I'll at least commend you for being a part of PFLAG...

[jillan]

87. She is using psychological manipulation & people see right thru it.

Pathetic.

[Jester Messiah]

91. There is no depth to which she will not sink. n/t

[ViseGrip]

99. She has now earned the phrase, running a losing campaign.

This is not what the country needs.


Campaigns should be UPLIFTING, like Bernie's! Inspiring, like Bernie's!
Hopeful, like Bernie's! A time to look at renewal....not what Hillary is presenting. Isn't America ugly enough yet?

[PatrickforO]

102. Clinton is a bad seed. It is too bad she has so many powerful people and so much money

behind her, because there's really nothing there by way of leadership.

[Kip Humphrey]

103. Hillary's "Victims on Parade" manipulation has been disgraceful and despicable in the extreme.

[99Forever]

106. It appears that the Shapeshifting One is getting a well deserved ass-kicking.

Just when you think your opinion of someone can't get any lower, they run their mouth and prove you wrong.

[amborin]

107. horrible that she would exploit this tragedy for her personal gain

[amborin]

109. she was so callous and cruel

[Vinca]

111. That is a shameful attack.

The bottom line re that lawsuit is the end result would have been the same whether that law was in place or not. No manufacturer of a legal product that has been legally sold will be held responsible for gun violence. The laws need to change, but primarily the laws about what is legal to purchase. In that Sandy Hook case, the person who would have been liable beyond the shooter was the mother - she provided the means - but he killed her, too. Just because a manufacturer has the deepest pockets doesn't make them liable for the actions of a legal buyer twice removed.

[Sheepshank]

120. OMG BS swarming social media

Say it ain't so.