Hillary now claims she was a "protester" back in the 60's & 70's! Did she just make that up?

[imagine2015]

Where are the pictures and/or news article regarding her participation in political protests?

Was she a participant in the anti-Vietnam war movement, women's rights demonstrations, union strike support, civil rights, any protest actions at all?

Or did she just make this up like her "sniper" story?

Hillary: "..Look, I think its exciting to be in effect, protesting.....I remember I did that a long time ago when I was in my twenties and I totally get the attraction of this..."

[arcane1]

1. As a "Goldwater Girl" she protested AGAINST civil rights for black people.

So there's that.

[daleanime]

3. +1

[840high]

71. +2

[rachacha]

72. +3

[Octafish]

80. +4

Ha ha ha.

[Autumn Colors]

83. +5

[pdsimdars]

84. +6

[morningfog]

4. I came to write the same thing, she protested against civil rights.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

54. Didn't she canvass for Nixon?

[scscholar]

57. Before working to get him impeached?

She flip flopped again.

[peacebird]

26. Exactly....

[Ferd Berfel]

27. yep - again!

[FreakinDJ]

34. Hillary protesting against civil rights

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. So she can accurately brag about her activist creds. n/t

[dana_b]

37. ouch!

again - the TRUTH hurts

[WhiteTara]

44. She was in high school during her Goldwater period

and became a democrat after that so it is possible.

[pdsimdars]

85. I wonder how she became the President of the Republican group in college then.

[Marr]

52. And apparently it was 'fun' and 'exciting'. /nt

[AzDar]

53. ^ THIS.

[azmom]

66. Protesting black lives don't matter. Shame Hillary!

[gollygee]

69. She went to Wellesley in the 60s. She might very well have done some protesting

And I mean after she dumped the Republicans. We haven't heard about it before now, so I doubt it was a whole lot, but it was a time period where there was a ton of protesting going on, and she was the right age and at a school where there would have been some protesting organized. I don't know why this is considered unbelievable.

[Phlem]

76. + infinity.

[JimDandy]

77. But that was her TEENS, her teens! She wasn't a fully formed human then.

Not her fault! Unfair! You've got to start in her twenties, like she said! Wail, gnashing of teeth...

[elljay]

79. She called blastocysts, embryos and fetuses unborn people the other day

So maybe we need to start with the moment Hillary was conceived.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/04/hillary-clinton-roundly-criticized-for-referring-to-the-unborn-as-a-person/?_r=0

[JimDandy]

81. The rightward pivot. It's a Clinton dance step... n/t

[HooptieWagon]

2. Another sniper story fabrication. Nt

[NorthCarolina]

5. I saw the picture. Turns out it wasn't Hillary afterall, it was

Bruce Rappaport.

[SheenaR]

17. Congrats

You just won Post of the Day

Excellent lol

[arcane1]

28. DUzy!

[Politicalboi]

42. I heard Capehart say it this morning

[angrychair]

6. Not sure

I know she attended the Republican National Convention as a Republican in the 60s but not sure otherwise.

[Sanity Claws]

7. More like a counter-protestor

She supported Goldwater. That kind of says it all, doesn't it?

[Kip Humphrey]

8. I was an activist back then and have never seen ANY evidence that Hillary protested anywhere!

#WhereWasHillary?
1964 Washington DC? nope
1968 Chicago? nope.
1969 Washington DC? nope.
1970 Washington DC? nope.

I'm sure there are pictures of her marching in the streets, or maybe an arrest record somewhere? Something? Somewhere? Anywhere?

[BernieforPres2016]

9. She was careful to confine it to her 20's because everybody knows she was a Goldwater Girl

When she was 27 years old, she served on a committee investigating Watergate. She got that job on the recommendation of a former law professor. From what I have read, the person (a Democrat) that she worked for did not think highly of her ethics. There are reports that she was fired but from what I've seen they are only on right wing sites. There appears to be no dispute that the person she reported to (Jerry Zeifman) did not hold her in high esteem; he has made critical comments about her.

So I guess you could call that "protesting", although it is ironic that she worked on prosecuting Richard Nixon for Watergate but later became a friend and fan of Nixon's notorious Secretary of State (and in the eyes of many, War Criminal) Henry Kissinger.

[KPN]

10. Wonder if she inhaled?

[karynnj]

11. I think she did - as almost anyone in college those years did

She and Bill Clinton worked on McGovern's campaign in 1972. She did the valedictory speech because she was President of her class the year she graduated from Wellesley College, which spoke against the Vietnam War.

I don't think that she was an activist on any of the issues and I don't think that she participated in any civil disobedience.

[imagine2015]

13. We don't have any information yet on any protests that she allegedly participated in. Nothing.

[karynnj]

20. I am not a Hillary supporter, but I would suggest that throwing away the typical college speech

and attacking the graduation speaker, Senator Brooke IS a protest - and well documented. I am about 4 years younger - and it was unusual NOT to have protested on campus against the war.

I am not suggesting that as proof, just arguing that based on the time and what we do know, it is more likely than not that she did protest. (That said - it was clearly less significant to her biography than Bernie spending a year working with CORE, protesting to desegregate Chicago schools and getting arrested ... or war hero Kerry returning to the US and leading protests to end the war, culminating in an eloquent speech before the SFRC that was showed in its entirety on all three network news shows. )

[imagine2015]

33. Someone should ask her! When, where and what.

Let's see if in response she claims to have been a leader of those movements .... while facing sniper fire!

[Fritz Walter]

75. That could be risky

We could see a reprise of the finger-wagging in the questioner's face and her testy "I'm sick of the lies...!" response.

Wonder how that verbal and non-verbal response worked while she was visiting other countries as SoS, or even at Goldman Sachs.

[arcane1]

39. Didn't she also claim she tried to enlist in the Marines during that time?

[karynnj]

41. That was a month or so before marrying Bill Clinton

I don't believe it -- though another story she told was that she went in to "test" if they would accept a woman. That is more believable, but as a Yale law school graduate, many have said that had she really wanted to do, she could have been a JAG.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Maybe, like Bernie, she would like to show us some photos of her being arrested.

Did she tell the cops at the Chicago convention to "Just Stop IT"?

[onecaliberal]

14. She protestd civil rights

[imagine2015]

36. Really? I've read nothing indicating she joined any of the protests and civil rights groups.

Links please.

Thanks.

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. I heard she got arrested in Bosnia once...

[CoffeeCat]

51. I heard that she was arrested on Mt Everest

A Sherpa spotted her spray painting "Hillary Clinton was named after this spot" onto the rock face of the Hillary Step.

<snicker>

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. Are you sure it wasn't "This spot was named after Hillary"? nt

[wendylaroux]

18. I never saw her,I did see Bernie though.

[Nanjeanne]

19. Quick - get Jonathan Capehart on this STAT!

[silvershadow]

21. She is delusional. nt

[KMOD]

22. ...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/4/1495575/-Hillary-Clinton-in-the-Civil-Rights-Era

[dinkytron]

23. Whoops, guess I have to delete until I can verify. Damn.

[factfinder_77]

24. Clinton in the Civil Rights Era

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/4/1495575/-Hillary-Clinton-in-the-Civil-Rights-Era

Factless gossip that is sometimes believed though easily disproven is never good to hear. Like the gossip coming from those who say Hillary Clinton’s 1964 canvassing for Barry Goldwater shows that she is racist. Goldwater voted 'no' on the 1964 Civil Rights Act., in an apparent bid to woo segregationist votes.

When Hillary Rodham was born in 1947, Chicago was called "the most segregated city in America." Throughout her youth, Democratic Party boss Richard Daley (D) did nothing to change that. Daley's corrupt power was given to him by white racist Democrat voters, just as white power was gained in Mississippi, and he did nothing to upset them.

In 1947, Hillary's father ran as an independent for a Chicago Alderman seat. He was beaten by Daley's racist machine candidate. The experience compelled Hugh Rodham to register as a Republican for the first time in his life. Rodham supported Dewey in 1948, and Eisenhower in '52 and '56.

In 1960, 12-year-old Hillary also canvassed her Chicago neighborhood for her father’s choice, Ike’s Vice President, Richard Nixon.

When the Illinois GOP demanded recounts in Chicago after Nixon’s loss to John Kennedy, it was revealed that the Democratic machine had rigged the count to give Kennedy and his southern running mate from segregated Texas a victory in his corrupt, racist, Democratic Kingdom of Chicagoland.

It is not hard to imagine how an idealistic, educated 12-year-old Republican was affected when she learned that her honest hard work had been robbed by the corrupt, racist Democrats of her city.

Those who still, against all reason, insist that canvassing at age 16 for the Republican her father supported in 1964 somehow made Clinton a racist, need to know who she met between the 1960 election and the 1964 election.

One Sunday evening in April, 1962, Hillary Rodham and her church youth group attended a speech given by Dr. Martin Luther King at Chicago's Orchestra Hall. Seeing and hearing the civil rights leader had a profound effect on her. She with her group met and talked to King personally after his address, and the event compelled the 14-year-old to volunteer to babysit for migrant workers who could not afford child care.

Yes, in 1964, at age 16 she again canvassed for her father’s favorite, the candidate of the Party of Lincoln. Few Americans voted against Goldwater for being personally racist. He wasn't considered a racist. He was considered a lunatic fringe nutcase whose VP pick wanted to drop H-bombs on anyone he didn't like. And for many, his vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, though he defended it on legal grounds, meant he would take the nation in a direction—backwards—that they did not want to return to. The Deep South was the only region where Goldwater won, five states, essentially because he promised them he would not upset the segregation apple cart that every facet of southern culture and economy was built on. He voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 just a few months before the election.

But Goldwater's Department Store in Phoenix was integrated. Goldwater hired black Americans to work there, and he had done so for years. He was not a segregationist, but as he told Meet the Press in 1964, when asked if he was courting the segregationist vote, "I'll go hunt where the ducks are." Racist ducks are all he brought home in 1964.

Bernie was 23 in 1964. A young civil rights idealist. Hillary canvassed for Goldwater. At 16. But age 20 in 1968, Hillary put on a black armband the day after MLK was assassinated and initiated a civil rights movement at Wellesley College. She led demonstrations and a drive to force the school to recruit more black students.

Also at age 20, she denounced the Republican Party as being racist, after she attended the RNC convention in Miami and saw Richard Nixon's supporters attack, sometimes physically, supporters of moderate Republican Nelson Rockefeller, who stood on the old guard Party of Lincoln platform. Nixon threw that one out with his Southern Strategy that swept the racist southern Democrats off their feet for the GOP.

At age 21, class valedictorian Hillary Clinton graduated from Wellesley women's college and was selected to address the class of 1969 at the commencement ceremony—the first student commencement speech in Wellesley history.

Senator Edward Brooke was the keynote speaker, and Clinton's address followed his. Brooke, a Republican from Massachusetts, was the nation's first elected African-American Senator. (Eleven African-Americans served in the House, all Democrats.)

Anti-activism was the theme of Brooke's speech, except where active maintenance of the status quo was required. In the wake of protests following the assassination of Martin Luther King, Brooke delivered a speech that might have pleased Richard Nixon's caustic vice-president, Spiro Agnew. Barely acknowledging any good in protests, Brooke berated what he called "professional" protesters, those who he said adopted causes haphazardly, and only to further personal ambitions. Acts of civil disobedience done to right social wrongs risked being disgraced by protest leaders who were only in it for self-aggrandizement. For Brookes, trusting authorities to do the right thing, was wildly preferable to taking a stand for justice in the street or on a campus. After all, peaceful change had lowered the poverty rate from 22 percent to 13 percent in the previous decade, while protests gave us Chicago and violence and mistrust. His fatherly talk to the young women might have been titled "Avoiding Hazards on the Road to Stepford."

On the other hand, Clinton, whose prepared address could have been titled "Leaving Stepford Like a Bat out of Hell," departed from her script to first address Brooke's go-along-to-get-along message. Referring to "our generation," she said, in part:

"We're not in the positions yet of leadership and power, but we do have that indispensable task of criticizing and constructive protest and I find myself reacting just briefly to some of the things that Senator Brooke said…

"Part of the problem with empathy with professed goals is that empathy doesn't do us anything. We've had lots of empathy; we've had lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible. What does it mean to hear that 13.3 percent of the people in this country are below the poverty line? That's a percentage. We're not interested in social reconstruction; it's human reconstruction. How can we talk about percentages and trends? The complexities are not lost in our analyses, but perhaps they're just put into what we consider a more human and eventually a more progressive perspective.

"The question about possible and impossible was one that we brought with us to Wellesley four years ago. We arrived not yet knowing what was not possible. Consequently, we expected a lot. Our attitudes are easily understood having grown up, having come to consciousness in the first five years of this decade—years dominated by men with dreams, men in the civil rights movement, the Peace Corps, the space program—so we arrived at Wellesley and we found, as all of us have found, that there was a gap between expectation and realities. But it wasn't a discouraging gap and it didn't turn us into cynical, bitter old women at the age of 18.…

"Before the days of the media orchestrated demonstrations, we had our own gathering over in Founder's parking lot. We protested against the rigid academic distribution requirement. We worked for a pass-fail system. We worked for a say in some of the process of academic decision making. And luckily we were in a place where, when we questioned the meaning of a liberal arts education there were people with enough imagination to respond to that questioning. So we have made progress. We have achieved some of the things that initially [we] saw as lacking in that gap between expectation and reality. Our concerns were not, of course, solely academic as all of us know. We worried about inside Wellesley questions of [racial barriers to] admissions, the [races] of people that should be coming to Wellesley, the process for getting them here. We questioned about what responsibility we should have both for our lives as individuals and for our lives as members of a collective group."

The student body gave her a seven-minute standing ovation. At this respected, conservative, women's college, a graduating student openly rebuked the status quo that Wellesley had long defended, and her peers, freshly-minted adults in America, were elated.

At age 21, unknown Hillary Clinton made headlines. She and her speech were featured in a Life Magazine article about the activist ideals of the class of 1969. She had led protests to protect black civil rights. She had accomplished civil rights goals. She advocated active civil disobedience to better African-American lives, to make the changes that passive compliance and blind trust had failed to make.

So don't hang gossiping lies that allege racism on Hillary Clinton's part on her door. The very act of doing so proves either ignorance or gross dishonesty on the part of the person making that charge.

[imagine2015]

43. Do you have any news links, photos, articles, etc., from that period? Anything at all ....

showing that she even participated in, much less led the civil rights movement.

Credible links please including but not limited to the Life magazine article.

Thanks.

The writer of the article you posted, Bill Housden, is a big Hillary supporter who has written other articles attacking Bernie Sanders and his supporters.

I think you forgot to mention Bill Housden in your post. He should get credit for that campaign propaganda piece.

Don't you agree?

[factfinder_77]

50. Why dont you teleport iphones to the 60s

Are you really telling me that HC have falsified her youth credentials?

[TM99]

56. We have photographic evidence

of Sanders in various leadership roles in the civil rights movement in Chicago.

We have actual video of him chained to a black student in protest and then being arrested.

So your flippant little distraction did not succeed. Instead you look rather foolish. We did not have iPhones in the 1960's kid, but we sure as hell had video and photography.

[TM99]

59. So really there is no proof then.

Do we have independent confirmation that Clinton did hear MLK speak at the tender age of 14?

OK, so she babysat for some migrant workers. That really is not protesting and activism for civil rights.

In college, she sported a black arm band and pushed for more black students. Do we have some video or photographic evidence of this? Was she in a leadership role like Sanders was? Was she arrested? Was she successful like Sanders was in his activism?

Then we have a speech. OK, speeches are nice and all, but we generally think of activism and protesting as much more than a speech given at a safe college commencement.

And if she was featured in a Life Magazine article, let's see it. Let's see evidence that proves she protested black civil rights, accomplished civil rights goals, actually was involved in civil disobedience (not just talked about it!) and made tangible changes at her campus that she personally was responsible for as a leader.

Because right now, this sounds a lot like another one of Hillary Clintons 'big lies' like Bosnia, 9/11 & Chelsea, Mt. Everest, and the Marines story. And after the pillorying that Sanders took from Capeheart, Lewis, and others questioning his activism and civil rights involvement, she and her supporters better put the fuck up with the photographic, written, and video evidence.

[CharlotteVale]

25. She denigrates both protesting and the young at the same time. Her supercilious

arrogance knows no bounds.

[Blue Meany]

29. She was involved in some campus protests, I think mainly

around paucity of African-Americans at her college.

[Press Virginia]

30. She has a real problem with the truth

[dsc]

31. Actually she attached Edmund Brooke over Vietnam to his face and made the cover of Life

magazine for doing so. Believe it or not, there is this thing called history and life didn't start with Facebook.

Oh and here is a link about her work on behalf of the Black Panthers among others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/18/AR2008051802101.html

It took one search, just one, and I used Google. But it was easier to just make shit up about Hillary than actually checking your facts.

[TM99]

61. Protest and activism are one thing.

She interned at a law firm. That is another. Good for her, but she had no leadership role there. She was not in the streets practicing civil disobedience. She was safely in a nice law firm office in Oakland while others, like the Panthers, were in the streets.

The article you site is not about her 'protesting' per se. It is about her associations in the late 60's and early 70's and her attacks on Obama's connections with radicals as a political ploy in their 2008 campaign battle.

It does not detail the type of civil disobedience, protest, and activism that she claims now in this interview.

[dchill]

32. Her status allows her artistic license...

Yeah, she made it up. But I'm sure it's OK with the MSM.

[one_voice]

38. My brothers went to the million man march...

we have no pictures of that. Guess they weren't there--except they were.

Both my parents marched and protested, they don't have pictures. My mom was smacked around by the cops during the riots in Wilmington Delaware--she had mixed child. Damn shame she didn't get a picture.

Not everyone has pictures, doesn't mean they weren't there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511662864#post24

Could be legit.

[TM99]

60. Well Clinton supporters here

beat the shit out of Sanders and his supporters along with Capeheart and Lewis for that lack of photographic evidence and 'proof'. When some said the same as you, y'all pushed harder than a two bit used car salesman trying to make his mark.

So no, there better be a long and steady stream of photographic, video, and objective evidence for her and y'all's claim. Period.

[one_voice]

64. Who is 'y'all'?

I know I never said one word about Sanders. I didn't push harder than anything or anyone. Two bit or other wise. I certainly didn't beat the shit out anyone or anyone's supporters.

[TM99]

65. So many Clinton supporters did here

that unless otherwise stated as you just did, I safe in assuming the worst hypocrisies and intentions.

I am glad you did not. You are certainly in the minority.

[one_voice]

68. I support both our

candidates. I'm not sure who I'm voting for. I haven't fully decided. Every time I think I have, I haven't.

I don't say anything bad about either.

[TM99]

70. Well you are certainly a rare exceptions.

[Warren Stupidity]

40. It was New Haven, 1970. Allen Ginsberg was chanting

on the Podium, the pigs were lining up to charge. We were all in the quad (Yale) and in the park outside. There was Hillary, future First Lady, future Senator, future Secretary of State, right next to me. We were smoking some riot weed, the shit was coming down. The tear gas started flying, we started getting our riot on. I lost track of her in the confusion.

[Zorra]

47. Yep. May Day, 1970, on the Green. Jerry, Dave, Kunst, and me took some Owsley

that Abbie brought up from Cambridge for "guidance" the night before. Abbie said the fuckin' fascist pigs had tanks by the side if the road on the way in. Allen was straight, and reciting poetry and doing Omms. Suddenly all hell broke loose when Nixon's agents provocateurs let loose with some rocks and bottles at the pigs. I remember Jerry grabbing the mike on the Podium, shouting something like "Don't go down there, this is total shit!" before the pigs hit us with the tear gas. National Guard was all over the place...a band was rockin' the Green...and then, the girl, surrounded by a strange white light, (it could have been Hillary), appeared out of nowhere and flashed the peace sign from the podium. The band stopped playing in this surreal moment when time stopped - and that's exactly when Ingall's blew (Nixon's people again), glass and concrete flyin' everywhere.

The mystery girl in the white light disappeared into the screams and thick smoke. I looked for her later, to no avail. No one knew who she was.

Was it her? Or was it just the Owsley playing tricks with my head?

I guess we'll never really know.

[Arugula Latte]

67. Hillary was the one who put the flower in the rifle of the National Guardsman.

Also, she was "the unknown member of the Chicago Seven." She's kinda like Pete Best. They called her "Secret Number Eight."

And, ya know that famous picture of the tank staredown in Tiananmen Square? ... Hillary.

[Bad Thoughts]

45. John Lewis was in the delivery room when she was born

He's not sure if Sanders was born or not.

[Logical]

74. I heard he delivered her actually. nt

[Peregrine Took]

46. Yikes - back to the old honesty problem again? That's a rough one!

If I were her I would keep my Google machine at hand before I yak about something....gotta check those nasty fact things before you speak, Hill.

[Avalux]

48. She used the words "in effect".

In Hillaryspeak - she didn't actually protest, but she gets the attraction to it, she really does.

[TM99]

63. 'In effect' means

that while the Black Panters were in the streets actually protesting and engaging in civil disobedience, she was safely in the law firm office in Oakland as an intern while her bosses led cases to help the Panther members.

She disgusts me.

[jillan]

49. Yes, she protested Civil Rights. She worked for the Goldwater campaign. 'Nuff said.

[tralala]

58. Hillary Clinton now claims she, too, lived on a Stalinist kibbutz in the 60s

[jfern]

62. I guess she protested civil rights by supporting Goldwater

[nc4bo]

73. You haven't heard? She's EVERY woman, we just won't know #WhichHillary? nt

[tymorial]

78. Wasn't she a republican then?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

82. Well, she would have...but she heard there were snipers at Kent State and mean cops in Birmingham.