2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary on CNN: "Successful Presidents hit the ground running."
Right Hillary, like Bill did. He appointed you to lead the effort to achieve healthcare reform, which you botched. He passed NAFTA, which you later claimed his administration inherited. He said he couldn't deliver that middle class tax cut he had campaigned on and pushed through a tax increase that passed by one vote in the House (without one Republican vote) that doomed many Democrats who voted for it. Then we had the Republican rout in his first midterm election which brought us Republican control of both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years, Speaker Gingrich and The Contract With America.
Bill really hit the ground running.
Then Hillary brought Dick Morris into the White House to advise Bill, the progressives among his advisors were walled off, and his policies took a sharp turn to the right with financial deregulation, the Crime Bill, the Welfare Reform Bill and the Telecommunications Bill. And the Democratic Party abandoned its legacy of FDR to became the second party of business and big money, which it has remained to this day.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Some of us lived it.
You twisting facts to rewrite history to suit your selfish needs is not honorable
daleanime
(17,796 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)The OP forgot to mention DOMA.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Forced us LGBTQ to live in fear if one wanted to pursue a military career for risk of being outed and professionally ruined...
merrily
(45,251 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)Why?
Because it is reality.
You might want to go review some history texts.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Bill Clinton had affairs too. He risked EVERYTHING for his own pleasure. The Clinton's risk our future all the time. They don't care, they have enough money to buy their own island and live happily ever after.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)The country was way farther to the right at that time and the attitude was what was good for business was good for the US.
Clinton helped the big guys, he had to. It's not like today where you can raise boatloads of money off the internet and basically run a campaign solely on helping the little guy like Bernie is doing so far. Heck even Bernie may lose because the corporate media is against him.
Despite saying that he was against trickle down one of the ways Clinton tried to help the little guy was by making the employment market so tight, and giving the rich so much money that wages ticked up slightly for the middle. It wasn't near what was needed but what was needed was not possible.
Sure he was the point man for sending jobs to China and Mexico, also he helped deregulate the financial industry which sent our jobs overseas and laid the groundwork for the financial crisis but he basically had no choice if he wanted to get the GOP congress to let him even let a few crumbs fall to the working people.
Times are difft now and it's unfair to compare.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)Her chicken-hawk status is well known. Always ready to send other people's kids to unnecessary wars.
Shes going to finish her PNAC neo-con strategy take out Syria than Iran.
War is guaranteed with Clinton as commander and chief.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)In it- it describes Hillary's behavior in the White House and the role she played during his Presidency. I found it interesting, you may too.
11/26/14 06:52 AM
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By Alex Seitz-Wald
Hillary Clintons prominent role in her husbands White House caused friction with the presidents staff, which occasionally erupted in her anger, according to newly released oral histories from the time.
The five dozen never-before-seen interviews with top officials offer a new window into the inner workings of the Clinton White House. The interviews, which were made public this month, were conducted in the mid-2000s by the University of Virginias Miller Center, which has an official partnership with Clintons presidential library.... more http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-strengths-and-anger-white-house-revealed
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Thanks for posting the link. Is this the kind of personality that should be commander in chief?
<Joan Baggett, who served as assistant to the president for political affairs, said people didnt feel comfortable pushing back on the first lady, even when she was wrong.
She would blow up over something that she misinterpreted. Again, you cant take her on, thats not my boss. You cant take on the First Lady, Baggert said. I remember one time in one of these meetings where she was blowing up about [Bill Clintons] staff and how we were all incompetent and he was having to be the mechanic and drive the car and do everything, that we werent capable of anything.>
earthside
(6,960 posts)... like she is doing right now.
If by some great misfortune Clinton becomes president she would hit the ground running as fast as she could to fulfill her obligations to her banker donor base.
She would be a terrible president.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)FEEL THE BERN - 2016
beedle
(1,235 posts)Like the ones where she was using all those schoolgirls as human shields?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)the children that day with bravery and distinction.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)those snipers!
I think there is a picture of her defending both her daughter and the troops during the incident.... hold on.... looking in the basement for the box of newspaper clips with the picture.....
....OK found the box, just one more sec and i'll fetch the picture of Hill in action during the Bosnia event....
Found it!
Impedimentus
(898 posts)FEEL THE BERN - 2016
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)yourout
(7,532 posts)Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)The FBI isn't going to give her a pass just because she thinks she deserves one.
If she broke the law, she needs to be held accountable. No one should be above the law.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)a president in my life time - at least in his first 4 YEARS!
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)... with your thesis and have no desire to debate it, that's a persuasively presented negative Clinton essay. Bonus points for throwing in toe-sucking Dick Morris!
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)and aside from a lot of inappropriate and what seemed to be nervous laughter by Hillary, she blatantly lied about the intentions of the Sandy Hook lawsuit and what Bernie said about it. She claimed that manufacturers of other types of products are liable, only the gun manufacturers are not. That's a total lie and misrepresentation of what product liability is.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)That kind of garbage is straight out of the Karl Rove playbook.
Bernie was fighting for progressive causes while Hillary was a Goldwater Girl. He has a D- record with the NRA while representing a state full of hunters. And Hillary tries to paint him as indifferent to gun violence. She shows every day why her net negatives are almost as bad as Trump's.