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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:05 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Is Under Fire Again on NY Daily News Front Page (Photo)




If you think today was a bad day for Bernie Sanders, wait until you see tomorrow’s New York Daily News front page.
Just hours after getting slammed for what many have called a “disaster” interview with the paper’s editorial board on Monday, Sanders is bracing for another hit, this time from the paper itself.
The Daily News, which has pushed the envelope in recents months with its bombastic and controversial covers, released an image of Wednesday’s front page with the headline: “Bernie’s Sandy Hook shame” plastered in big white letters.
The subhead — just as painful — reads: “Callously defends gunmakers against Newton kin lawsuit.”

http://www.thewrap.com/bernie-sanders-is-under-fire-again-on-ny-daily-news-front-page-photo/




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Bernie Sanders Is Under Fire Again on NY Daily News Front Page (Photo) (Original Post) MADem Apr 2016 OP
Not falling for emotional manipulation no matter how hard she tries. jillan Apr 2016 #1
He gave the interview, choosing to comment on ongoing litigation. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #16
His words. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #24
It is shameful, when the opinion is shameful. See? My opinion. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #25
It's what they do. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #3
Who is "she?" This is about SANDERS and his NYDN interview--HIS words, and his alone. MADem Apr 2016 #9
She...the all powerful she who can WhiteTara Apr 2016 #54
LOL! MADem Apr 2016 #55
Well She is all powerful WhiteTara Apr 2016 #60
tabloid says wha??? azurnoir Apr 2016 #4
He gave the interview, choosing to comment on ongoing litigation. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #6
yes he did and he's right on this unless of course you wish to make Chicago Cutlery responsible for azurnoir Apr 2016 #10
The people who marketed a battlefield weapon to civilians should have to face the legal msanthrope Apr 2016 #13
We don't require background checks to buy steak knives, but nice try. nt MADem Apr 2016 #14
ummm where did Bernie say no background checks? azurnoir Apr 2016 #29
You are trying to compare two processes that are entirely dissimilar. It's not Bernie creating the MADem Apr 2016 #35
NYDN is the "liberal" paper in NYC. MADem Apr 2016 #11
the link says it's a tabloid azurnoir Apr 2016 #21
A tabloid that BS gave a disastrous interview to. msanthrope Apr 2016 #28
disastrous is an opinion to be catapulted as fact azurnoir Apr 2016 #30
"Tabloid" refers as much to the size of the paper as anything. It is a LIBERAL tabloid. MADem Apr 2016 #36
no one paid much attention to the tabloid until now azurnoir Apr 2016 #39
People have always paid attention the NYDN headlines--they're the BEST at them. MADem Apr 2016 #44
you mean these? azurnoir Apr 2016 #47
Since Bernie hates Obama, that should please you--the NYDN doesn't feel BHO is liberal enough to MADem Apr 2016 #61
No one paid much attention to the tabloid until now? mcar Apr 2016 #57
Why do you think Bernie agreed to interview with a "tabloid?" MoonRiver Apr 2016 #41
I don't know maybe because it's an NYC tabloid? azurnoir Apr 2016 #42
A tabloid is a tabloid, is a tabloid. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #43
Before you spout more, ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #48
*yawn* frylock Apr 2016 #5
I agree with him... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #7
FOUR DEMOCRATS are the reason Obama's gun legislation did not pass, not b/c of Bernie. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #8
The NY smearing campaign has been launched. Vattel Apr 2016 #12
Bernie opened his mouth and chose to comment on ongoing litigation. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #23
Gee, whiz, pointing out a candidate's OWN WORDS and VIEWS is now "smearing?" LOL!!! nt MADem Apr 2016 #18
LOL, try reading the headline. Vattel Apr 2016 #19
This is my thread. MADem Apr 2016 #20
Think hard about the use of "calloused" and "shame" in the headline. Vattel Apr 2016 #26
Again, this is my thread and if you don't want replies, don't contribute to it. MADem Apr 2016 #37
This will help him with independants. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #22
Independents aren't allowed to vote in the NY primary. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #31
Nor GOPers, thank the heavens! Iliyah Apr 2016 #33
Heh heh. MADem Apr 2016 #38
It's madness I tell you! Lucinda Apr 2016 #62
Did Daily News mention NRA lobbyist's fundraiser for Hillary? Octafish Apr 2016 #27
Wow.. disillusioned73 Apr 2016 #32
Cornered, Jonathan Capehart blames UChicago. Octafish Apr 2016 #46
Bingo.. disillusioned73 Apr 2016 #49
Well, that's a bit dishonest--because that guy is an EX-lobbyist. MADem Apr 2016 #40
Almost as dishonest as implying Bernie Sanders supports mass murder. Octafish Apr 2016 #45
Nowhere in that image does it say or imply "Bernie Sanders supports mass murder" -- what it MADem Apr 2016 #58
You should read what you just wrote. Octafish Apr 2016 #59
"You should read what you just wrote." MADem Apr 2016 #63
Your words, MADem. Not mine, thankfully. Octafish Apr 2016 #66
Simply bolding text doesn't make it dire--I was right on the money and you don't like it. MADem Apr 2016 #68
Why is he not liberal this? KingFlorez Apr 2016 #34
Gun manufacturers in VT. He has supported the companies in his state Lucinda Apr 2016 #64
Sanders supporters wanted media coverage, well they got it. :-) Alfresco Apr 2016 #50
Be careful what you ask for.... Lucinda Apr 2016 #65
Because he's Evil..... daleanime Apr 2016 #51
nah. Sanders is just not ready for prime time nor the Presidency riversedge Apr 2016 #52
Of course he isn't, he still puts.... daleanime Apr 2016 #53
It is a shame mcar Apr 2016 #56
KNR Lucinda Apr 2016 #67

jillan

(39,451 posts)
1. Not falling for emotional manipulation no matter how hard she tries.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

Using victims for political gain is about the sickest thing I have ever seen.

Response to msanthrope (Reply #2)

Response to msanthrope (Reply #17)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. Who is "she?" This is about SANDERS and his NYDN interview--HIS words, and his alone.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

If he didn't want people to mention this, he shouldn't have said what he said.

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
54. She...the all powerful she who can
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

tell newspapers what to print and when to print it. She who is so powerful that she can't be named for fear...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
55. LOL!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

Now that's some serious conspiracy theorizing! One has to wonder why that All Powerful She didn't deliver the knockout punch long ago!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. yes he did and he's right on this unless of course you wish to make Chicago Cutlery responsible for
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

any stabbing death where one their knives is used or liquor makers responsible for deaths from drunken drivers or maybe skilcraft responsible for an axe murder we could go on and on and on some more

I have sympathy for the Sandy Hook parent but this law suit will not go anywhere for the same reasons Caterpillar could not be held responsible for the death of Rachel Corrie

It is a suit of last resort- the gun purchaser is dead, the shop that sold the gun followed the law so what's left?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
13. The people who marketed a battlefield weapon to civilians should have to face the legal
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

process. It's that simple. Let judges and juries decide.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
29. ummm where did Bernie say no background checks?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

oh BTW the check was done and passed in the case of Sandy Hook-hence the suit against the manufacturer no one else left to sue as I said I have sympathy for the parents that are bringing this suit but it is a suit of last resort

The state of CT has issued a ban of the sales of ar-15 since Sandy Hook which is their right

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. You are trying to compare two processes that are entirely dissimilar. It's not Bernie creating the
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

strawman, it's YOU, with that NRA, culled from the right "knives" analogy.

You brought the knives into the convo.

You can buy knives at the supermarket, CVS and Homegoods. You can't buy guns at those places.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. NYDN is the "liberal" paper in NYC.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016
For years, the News maintained an editorial line staunchly supportive of the Republican Party, not unlike its sister Chicago Tribune. This changed after the Watergate scandal in the 1970s, with the Tribune papers turning independent and increasingly liberal. This in contrast to the rival New York Post that turned from a Democrat stronghold to an arch-conservative bastion during the same time. The paper kept its liberal point-of-view after seceding from the Tribune syndicate, and to this day has become nationally known for advocating migrant reform and gun control.



That's from your link.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. the link says it's a tabloid
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

their headline after San Bernardino

Following the 2015 San Bernardino attack, in which 14 people were shot dead, the December 3, 2015 front page displayed "GOD ISN'T FIXING THIS" along with tweets from Republican politicians offering thoughts and prayers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Daily_News

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
28. A tabloid that BS gave a disastrous interview to.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

The Daily News is read by New Yorkers...... it's an extremely influential paper here.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. "Tabloid" refers as much to the size of the paper as anything. It is a LIBERAL tabloid.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

They've often used catchy headlines to sell papers. No one minded until their ox was gored!







And that headline about God not fixing it? That was RIGHT ON POINT:




I Very Much support NYDN's POV re: gun control. Most Democrats agree with me.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
39. no one paid much attention to the tabloid until now
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

and maybe Democrats in NYC but not so much in other places-many Democrats own guns

MADem

(135,425 posts)
61. Since Bernie hates Obama, that should please you--the NYDN doesn't feel BHO is liberal enough to
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

suit them.

They don't think Sanders is smart enough to suit them.

mcar

(42,372 posts)
57. No one paid much attention to the tabloid until now?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

You don't know much about the Daily News, do you? It's very popular, not only in NY but also in NJ, PA and CT.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
43. A tabloid is a tabloid, is a tabloid.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

Very poor judgment on his part, agreeing to interview with a "tabloid." Whatever you want to call that periodical, the questions were serious and he still couldn't answer them. Bernie is clearly a low information candidate.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
48. Before you spout more,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

why not look at the analysis HuffPo did on his facts, and on how the questioners simply don't understand the whole situation.

Unless you want to remain ignorant of the truth.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
7. I agree with him...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

Gun manufacturers should not be held responsible if someone legally purchases their product and uses it for nefarious purposes...

Response to msanthrope (Reply #15)

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
26. Think hard about the use of "calloused" and "shame" in the headline.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

And then look at what Bernie actually said, and think hard some more.

Don't bother replying. Just think really hard.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. Again, this is my thread and if you don't want replies, don't contribute to it.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders was calloused--and obtuse, and stupid, and wrong--in his views. And he should be fucking ASHAMED of himself--he keeps trying to walk a fine line with the gun nuts, on the one hand, trying like hell to not piss them off so they'll "nudge wink" and take the point that he's on their side, and on the other hand, trying to divide the baby in Ibrahimic fashion, playing like he gives a shit about people getting gunned down, when plainly, he doesn't.

There's only one "correct" viewpoint on this issue--and that is the viewpoint that Obama articulated after that shameful vote. Most of America--the sane people--agree with this, that we need MORE, not less, gun control.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
22. This will help him with independants.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

I know a lot of republicans who like Bernie simply because of his policies on trade and the fact Hillary keeps beating him up on guns.
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
31. Independents aren't allowed to vote in the NY primary.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

Or any other contest left in April, except Rhode Island.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
62. It's madness I tell you!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

We surely can't be trusted to choose who we want to represent OUR party!

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
32. Wow..
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016


This hit job is shameful... almost on the civil rights smear campaign level.. speaking of which, haven't seen that hack on the news lately (forgot his name).. guess he cashed his check and went home - couldn't handle the heat I guess..
 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
49. Bingo..
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016

thanx for the article.. I hope his career is shot - although I'm sure his backscratch is coming (or already came)..

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. Well, that's a bit dishonest--because that guy is an EX-lobbyist.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

When the people at that shitty rag were told, they buried the correction in the article.

From your link:

Update at 4:41 p.m. ET: Jennifer Baker, director of public affairs for the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, emails us to say that “Jeff Forbes is no longer an NRA consultant.”

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
45. Almost as dishonest as implying Bernie Sanders supports mass murder.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

Which is, you know, what is being implied.



Last night on MSNBC, for instance, after an hour of non-stop Trump-Cruz horserace coverage, Rachel Maddow got around to asking Jeff Weaver about Bernie's positions on gun control. Then it was time for a commercial.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Nowhere in that image does it say or imply "Bernie Sanders supports mass murder" -- what it
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

says is that he'd rather defend gunmakers than embrace a course of action that MOST of America supports. That's your own guilty conscience telling you that he supports mass murder, you know.

He cares more about those big money gun-making interests than keeping guns out of the hands of crazed assholes who kill little kids and people out to watch a frigging movie. There are two sides here--the corporate gunmakers, or the families of the dead. I support the latter.

Sanders has plunked his ass down on the WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY re: this issue. We are a less civilized nation because of the way we manage gun distribution, and he helps perpetuate the travesty. He should be ashamed of himself. He is one of those guys who will have to be personally affected by tragedy before he is able to grab a clue. He lacks empathy, compassion and intellect when it comes to this matter.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
59. You should read what you just wrote.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:27 PM
Apr 2016

Besides putting words in my mouth, you manage to prove my point.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. "You should read what you just wrote."
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

You put those words in your OWN mouth, there! LOL!

Who dragged in all the "implied" nonsense? Look in the mirror.

The only point that is proven is that you dragged in a strawman, and now you're annoyed because I noticed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
66. Your words, MADem. Not mine, thankfully.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

From MADem:

Nowhere in that image does it say or imply "Bernie Sanders supports mass murder" -- what it

says is that he'd rather defend gunmakers than embrace a course of action that MOST of America supports. That's your own guilty conscience telling you that he supports mass murder, you know.

He cares more about those big money gun-making interests than keeping guns out of the hands of crazed assholes who kill little kids and people out to watch a frigging movie. There are two sides here--the corporate gunmakers, or the families of the dead. I support the latter.

Sanders has plunked his ass down on the WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY re: this issue. We are a less civilized nation because of the way we manage gun distribution, and he helps perpetuate the travesty. He should be ashamed of himself. He is one of those guys who will have to be personally affected by tragedy before he is able to grab a clue. He lacks empathy, compassion and intellect when it comes to this matter.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. Simply bolding text doesn't make it dire--I was right on the money and you don't like it.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

You brought "mass murder" into the conversation--not me.

If you thought it up, there must be something about "mass murder" and Bernie's stance that troubles you.

Are you saying that the purpose of the law wasn't to keep guns out of the hands of crazed assholes?

Not really sure what your point is, here.

I do detect an elevated degree of faux offense/outrage, though, of the "How dare you" variety.

One more time--Sanders is ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY on this issue, and it will be sooner, rather than later, that you too will reach this conclusion.

If you can "thankfully" champion Sanders' stance on this issue, you are out of step with the Democratic Party platform.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
64. Gun manufacturers in VT. He has supported the companies in his state
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

over the need for common sense regulations. Until someone came along like Hillary who took up the issue full force, those congress people with industries in their state had some cover on this issue. It's front page news now.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
53. Of course he isn't, he still puts....
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

people ahead of profits, and that will never ever do. But you have a lovely day.

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