2016 Postmortem

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts) Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:49 AM Apr 2016

Wow Tavis Smiley just said on morning Joe that Hillary hasn't earned the black vote

And that African Americans may not vote if she doesn't do a better job earning it if she is the nominee!

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Wow Tavis Smiley just said on morning Joe that Hillary hasn't earned the black vote (Original Post) berni_mccoy Apr 2016 OP

I have always liked Tavis Smiley hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #1

I guess Tavis isn't on the payroll... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #2

In before they attempt to deflect with something regarding Cornel West Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #3

The State of the Black Union me b zola Apr 2016 #4

kick kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #6

Do you remember that Tavis endorsed Hillary in 2008? He hates Obama and now she is too close Jitter65 Apr 2016 #5

You should ask Tavis what Bernie has done... He supports Bernie. berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #7

the veterans bill? That should count. n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #9

He's echoing what Michelle Alexander said: she doesn't deserve the black vote WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #8

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)

1. I have always liked Tavis Smiley

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:50 AM

Apr 2016

And have taken a fair amount of abuse for it.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)

2. I guess Tavis isn't on the payroll...

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:52 AM

Apr 2016

it's hard to remember every political and corporate figure to pay off. HRC and her minions were bound to overlook one or two...

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)

3. In before they attempt to deflect with something regarding Cornel West

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:59 AM

Apr 2016

He's always their go-to when anyone of color takes a side that isn't 100% Hillary.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)

4. The State of the Black Union

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:01 AM

Apr 2016

...has always been very clear. That when discussing the issues important to the Black community, no party nor politician has a right to claim the Black vote, they must earn it. It has always been inclusive of a broad range of Black voices and experiences, but cautions any politician who believes that they are entitled to the Black vote.

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)

6. kick

Reply to me b zola (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:11 AM

Apr 2016

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)

5. Do you remember that Tavis endorsed Hillary in 2008? He hates Obama and now she is too close

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:09 AM

Apr 2016

to Obama so she is under the bus for him. And what has Bernie actually DONE for black voters from his mountain top in Vermont..a state that has the highest incarceration RATE for blacks in the nation?

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

7. You should ask Tavis what Bernie has done... He supports Bernie.

Reply to Jitter65 (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:12 AM

Apr 2016

And says Bernie HAS earned the black vote, unlike Hillary.

The first thing Bernie did was to LISTEN. Hillary seems incapable of that.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)

9. the veterans bill? That should count. n/t

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:22 AM

Apr 2016

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)

8. He's echoing what Michelle Alexander said: she doesn't deserve the black vote

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:17 AM

Apr 2016

Rahm Emanuel sure as fuck didn't deserve the black vote in Chicago.

In Chicago, Rahm was endorsed by Obama (who came to Chicago and stumped for him--lucky us!) and black leadership, Aldermen and reverends. Only Jesse Jackson endorsed Garcia.

With Hillary, electability is huge. Also, Blacks are loyal Democrats and reject Bernie as a Socialist. THOSE ARE 2 FACTORS, BUT NOT THE ONLY. THEY'RE JUST SIGNIFICANT FACTORS.

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