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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:00 PM Apr 2016

2 Key differences between Wisconsin and New York

which explain why Bernie's expected win today is likely to have little impact in NY.

NY has three times as many black voters as in Wisconsin, and Wisconsin exit polls show -- once again -- Hillary's support is very strong among African American voters.

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/RHI125214/00,36,55

The Wisconsin primary is open to anyone, including Independents. To vote in the NY primary, new voters had to register a month in advance (no same-day registration). And previously registered voters had to be registered Democrat as of October 2015. So there will be no last minute switch from Independents to Democrats.

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2 Key differences between Wisconsin and New York (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2016 OP
It's unlikely Sanders wins NY bigwillq Apr 2016 #1
Tom Waits - Whistlin' Past the Graveyard delrem Apr 2016 #17
Closed primaries are the best cosmicone Apr 2016 #2
I like having my neighbors over for dinner and introducing them morningfog Apr 2016 #6
But you wouldn't let them decide the paint colors n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #3
they dont seem to reddread Apr 2016 #4
You are saying that, and you are being offensive. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #5
I'm not sure what is offensive genna Apr 2016 #9
In which states has Bernie done better than Hillary among African American voters? pnwmom Apr 2016 #15
The most important difference Aerows Apr 2016 #7
+1 billion. n/t Avalux Apr 2016 #10
Just thought I would bring a little reality Aerows Apr 2016 #13
Yes your post made me happy. This place is nuts tonight. n/t Avalux Apr 2016 #14
Another key difference paulthompson Apr 2016 #8
awesome. thanks! reddread Apr 2016 #12
Yep, these kind of fair and just voting laws give Hillary the win Joob Apr 2016 #11
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
1. It's unlikely Sanders wins NY
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

It's unlikely that Sanders wins the nomination.
Captain Obvious, I know.lol

Response to pnwmom (Original post)

genna

(1,945 posts)
9. I'm not sure what is offensive
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:39 PM
Apr 2016

The main post assuming Michigan black voters didn't choose Bernie in large enough numbers for Hillary to lose Michigan;the idea that South Carolina African Americans speak for all African American voters; or that voting against Bernie Sanders means a voter is low information.

I support Bernie and am a African American woman. I think we are a cynical group as a whole and don't believe dreams come true or last long.
There are plenty of people who didn't want Obama to run in 2008 because we've lived through enough backlash to know it could be cataclysmic. After watching the choices and trade offs Obama made, I think voting for another progressive might be a bridge too far. The Bill Clinton administration showed exactly what kind of policies Black people can expect (the glass is half empty with plenty of Sister Souljah triangulating moments to come with some long prison sentences for marijuana ahead).

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
15. In which states has Bernie done better than Hillary among African American voters?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

Exit polls here in WI said she had 72% support among A.A. people vs. Bernie's 26%.

In Michigan, MA, Illinois, and Florida she also did better. It's not just South Carolina.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
7. The most important difference
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

is that WI was held tonight and Bernie won. New York hasn't voted yet, so anybody can play Nostradamus.

WI is decided.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Just thought I would bring a little reality
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

that Clinton supporters claim they want into the thread .

paulthompson

(2,398 posts)
8. Another key difference
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:38 PM
Apr 2016

Wisconsin has early voting, New York and four of the five states voting the week after that don't. That's a big advantage for Sanders because so many votes break late for Sanders.

Case in point with Wisconsin. If the numbers hold, Sanders will do better than ANY of the polls, and by a fair amount. Late deciding voters. Even the Clinton campaign has admitted that's a real trend (according to a report I saw on MSNBC).

So I think that will largely cancel out the open vs. closed difference.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
11. Yep, these kind of fair and just voting laws give Hillary the win
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

Tells ya something. Oh and no youth in Wisconsin, yet somehow I think thats not the point

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