2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum2 Key differences between Wisconsin and New York
which explain why Bernie's expected win today is likely to have little impact in NY.
NY has three times as many black voters as in Wisconsin, and Wisconsin exit polls show -- once again -- Hillary's support is very strong among African American voters.
http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/RHI125214/00,36,55
The Wisconsin primary is open to anyone, including Independents. To vote in the NY primary, new voters had to register a month in advance (no same-day registration). And previously registered voters had to be registered Democrat as of October 2015. So there will be no last minute switch from Independents to Democrats.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)It's unlikely that Sanders wins the nomination.
Captain Obvious, I know.lol
delrem
(9,688 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)No one should let neighbors decide the decorations in one's house.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)to my friends.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Response to pnwmom (Original post)
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reddread
(6,896 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)genna
(1,945 posts)The main post assuming Michigan black voters didn't choose Bernie in large enough numbers for Hillary to lose Michigan;the idea that South Carolina African Americans speak for all African American voters; or that voting against Bernie Sanders means a voter is low information.
I support Bernie and am a African American woman. I think we are a cynical group as a whole and don't believe dreams come true or last long.
There are plenty of people who didn't want Obama to run in 2008 because we've lived through enough backlash to know it could be cataclysmic. After watching the choices and trade offs Obama made, I think voting for another progressive might be a bridge too far. The Bill Clinton administration showed exactly what kind of policies Black people can expect (the glass is half empty with plenty of Sister Souljah triangulating moments to come with some long prison sentences for marijuana ahead).
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Exit polls here in WI said she had 72% support among A.A. people vs. Bernie's 26%.
In Michigan, MA, Illinois, and Florida she also did better. It's not just South Carolina.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)is that WI was held tonight and Bernie won. New York hasn't voted yet, so anybody can play Nostradamus.
WI is decided.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)that Clinton supporters claim they want into the thread .
Avalux
(35,015 posts)paulthompson
(2,398 posts)Wisconsin has early voting, New York and four of the five states voting the week after that don't. That's a big advantage for Sanders because so many votes break late for Sanders.
Case in point with Wisconsin. If the numbers hold, Sanders will do better than ANY of the polls, and by a fair amount. Late deciding voters. Even the Clinton campaign has admitted that's a real trend (according to a report I saw on MSNBC).
So I think that will largely cancel out the open vs. closed difference.
reddread
(6,896 posts)game changer.
Joob
(1,065 posts)Tells ya something. Oh and no youth in Wisconsin, yet somehow I think thats not the point