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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:52 PM Apr 2016

Bernie and Jane Sanders 2014 Income Tax Return Can Be Read At The Following Link:

It's in PDF format:

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/a81ffa04b09bf63e85256e4100705e33/9900b87e8ae6af0c85257eb4004e9f66/$FILE/B_Sanders_2014.pdf

After you reach the above website click on the PDF icon in the upper left hand corner for access.




On tax returns, Sanders and wife report $200,000 in income — mostly from his Senate post
By John Wagner
June 30, 2015


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who rails against the “billionaire class” on the presidential campaign trail, reported relatively modest income last year: just more than $200,000 on a tax return filed jointly with his wife.

The vast majority of the couple’s income came from Sanders’s $174,000 Senate salary and Social Security benefits that both he and his wife, Jane, a former college president, receive.

According to his tax forms, Sanders and his wife paid $27,653 in federal income tax and another $7,903 in Vermont income tax last year. The couple paid an effective tax rate of 19.6 percent on their federal taxable income of $140,994.

Sanders reported receiving $156,441 from his Senate job, after contributions to a savings plan and health insurance. The couple reported receiving another $46,213 in Social Security benefits, of which $39,281 was taxable.

Sanders also reported income of $4,982 from the pension he receives having been mayor of Burlington, Vt., in the 1980s. And his wife had another $4,900 in compensation for sitting on a commission devoted to the management of low-level radioactive waste disposal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/30/on-tax-returns-sanders-and-wife-report-200000-in-income-mostly-from-his-senate-post/?tid=a_inl

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Bernie and Jane Sanders 2014 Income Tax Return Can Be Read At The Following Link: (Original Post) imagine2015 Apr 2016 OP
Pays more in taxes than that prick Romney. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
19.6% isn't huge. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #46
Me, too. snowy owl Apr 2016 #58
Wow, a politician who has not 'enriched' himself over the years in office. Only work benefits! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #2
^^^^^^this here^^^^ wendylaroux Apr 2016 #4
Yep, if there was anything fishy they would have found it in his financial disclosures. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #60
He is a rare politician with principles. ozone_man Apr 2016 #65
No Scedule A mean no complete return. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #3
You may find more 'business' yet he IS A MAN who has not enriched himself as a pol. eom ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6
$175K per year, yeah, he's enriching himself alright. eom CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #12
BULLSHIT Not everyone claims itemized deductions. jillan Apr 2016 #7
The Sanders DID. See Line 40. $56,377 in itemized deductions. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #11
NOW WHERE ARE THE TRANSCRIPTS HILLARY? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #38
Gee. And how many millions of bucks do you think were left out of their return from "Scedule" A? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #10
My husband and I have not ever filed a Schedule A in the 40-plus years we've been filing jointly. enough Apr 2016 #24
I have a hard time believing your convenient, and purely anecdotal, claims here. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #25
He could do like the Clintons beedle Apr 2016 #41
Are you kidding? I read DU all the time, have for years, and respond to whatever catches my enough Apr 2016 #66
No mortgage interest deduction? No charitable contributions? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #52
Correct. Not that we don't have those things, but we do not deduct them. enough Apr 2016 #67
The article links to: "Clintons have made more than $25 million for speaking since January 2014" imagine2015 Apr 2016 #5
Kick! (Wonder why the thread is so slow???) ViseGrip Apr 2016 #8
So what has the whining been about over the last week or so? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #9
Their combined net worth is $700,000. They want to know where that fortune came from! imagine2015 Apr 2016 #13
The conservatives like to bash Bernie over that $700K net worth BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #17
Brock plays his flute the rats follow. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #15
ya they want to see the OFFICIAL certificate azurnoir Apr 2016 #19
Perfect. 840high Apr 2016 #34
Because people rightfully want a candidate's entire return, not just the "first few pages.' onenote Apr 2016 #16
Do you need their birth certificates? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #20
It takes a special kind of person to equate birtherism with wanting full disclosure of a candidate's onenote Apr 2016 #28
So what credible journalist or media source has requested the specific information you want? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #30
Probably the same credible journalists or media sources asking Clinton to "release the transcripts" zappaman Apr 2016 #36
You don't think this article is critical? onenote Apr 2016 #37
"First few pages" of the return. Not the entire return. onenote Apr 2016 #14
Does not the form show their total income and taxes paid? What else do you need? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #18
First, I am Sanders' supporter who voted for him in the Virginia primary onenote Apr 2016 #26
You don't think Bernie and Jane are hiding millions in dirty money from us? I'm sure you don't. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #29
You don't get it. I don't give a rat's ass about the amounts. onenote Apr 2016 #32
What is hard for me to understand is TM99 Apr 2016 #42
Clinton has released her full returns, with all the schedules. onenote Apr 2016 #44
The Clintons TM99 Apr 2016 #45
+1000 smiley Apr 2016 #56
If Hillary only released a couple of pages Andy823 Apr 2016 #22
Just read they are redoing the last 5 years because of unclaimed glinda Apr 2016 #27
"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who rails against the “billionaire class” " rickford66 Apr 2016 #21
Please proceed, Madam Secretary. Myrina Apr 2016 #23
I'm totally Bernie but itemizations should be there. Also, few charitable donations snowy owl Apr 2016 #31
You make $168,000 a year in charitable donations as a teacher? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #40
Did I misread? I saw $150 snowy owl Apr 2016 #53
You're misreading his return. $150 is correct. $8053 VT taxes. Read carefully. snowy owl Apr 2016 #54
From the linked Washington Post article; I didn't even look at the return after reading the summary BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #55
I just saw it was linked in OP. Thanks. snowy owl Apr 2016 #57
The link is at the bottom of the OP BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #59
Oh dear. snowy owl Apr 2016 #62
Bump for truth. Bump for "Where are Hillary's transcripts from the Wall Street speeches" silvershadow Apr 2016 #33
.+1 840high Apr 2016 #35
How perfectly normal. Hill folk should be eating crow senz Apr 2016 #39
NOPE. Sanders needs to release his FULL tax forms riversedge Apr 2016 #43
And his long form birth certificate? nichomachus Apr 2016 #47
#ReleasetheReturns. No, I am not a birther. Shame on you for name-calling. riversedge Apr 2016 #49
Is there a link for Hillary's speech transcripts? nt nichomachus Apr 2016 #48
Is there a link for Sanders full tax returns? Answer #ReleasetheReturns riversedge Apr 2016 #50
No. They are hiding that. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #51
$200,000 vs. $25,000,000 - aren't you a little petty? snowy owl Apr 2016 #61
I got 1 frame of video from speech Gwhittey Apr 2016 #64
That's not the full 2014 tax return. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #63
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
2. Wow, a politician who has not 'enriched' himself over the years in office. Only work benefits!
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

Wow, the honesty and integrity of this man. He has not USED HIS OFFICE to get rich.

This is the chance of a lifetime, to elect an honest man! The Clinton's are not even in the stratosphere with this record, of a life of work.

GO BERNIE!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RUNNING!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
60. Yep, if there was anything fishy they would have found it in his financial disclosures.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

HC supporters are starting rumours because there's not even a hint of corruption when it comes to Bernie's finances.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
11. The Sanders DID. See Line 40. $56,377 in itemized deductions.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

There's no Schedule A available showing what deductions they utilized, which is a standard section of a full tax return.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
10. Gee. And how many millions of bucks do you think were left out of their return from "Scedule" A?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

Come now. Get serious!

enough

(13,263 posts)
24. My husband and I have not ever filed a Schedule A in the 40-plus years we've been filing jointly.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

We are self-employed with our own business, so the rest of the return can be pretty complicated.

By the way, we have never been audited and never been questioned about the lack of Schedule A.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
25. I have a hard time believing your convenient, and purely anecdotal, claims here.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

What a miracle that you, who have "never filed a Schedule A in 40-plus years" just happened to be on DU today, and just happened to see my post at that moment. So many things lining up just right for your manufactured excuse to be here, right now, to try to refute what is basic accounting practice.

You're selling bullshit and I'm not buying.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
41. He could do like the Clintons
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

$1000 travel expenses (or some such other silly figure)... and call it a day.

enough

(13,263 posts)
66. Are you kidding? I read DU all the time, have for years, and respond to whatever catches my
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

attention.

Truly if you think you are required to file a Schedule A you are simply mistaken.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
52. No mortgage interest deduction? No charitable contributions?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

No real estate taxes?. No state taxes?

enough

(13,263 posts)
67. Correct. Not that we don't have those things, but we do not deduct them.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:24 PM
Apr 2016

One thing you are probably not taking into account is that we do not make a lot of money, never have. So we don't find a particular advantage in claiming deductions. Those deductions have no effect whatever on one's self employment tax.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
5. The article links to: "Clintons have made more than $25 million for speaking since January 2014"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:09 PM
Apr 2016


Clintons have made more than $25 million for speaking since January 2014
By Matea Gold, Rosalind S. Helderman and Anne Gearan
May 15, 2015


Hillary Rodham Clinton and former president Bill Clinton earned in excess of $25 million for delivering 104 speeches since the beginning of 2014, a huge infusion to their net worth as she was readying for a presidential bid.

Hillary Clinton also earned more than $5 million in royalties for her book, “Hard Choices,” which was released in June.

During the 11 years Hillary Clinton served as a U.S. senator and then secretary of state, she reported that her husband made $105 million for delivering more than 540 speeches. Bill Clinton’s fees rose over time. In 2012, her last year at the State Department, he earned more than $16.3 million for 72 speeches.

Now that she is running for president, Hillary Clinton has stopped giving paid speeches. But Bill Clinton said this month that he intends to continue to collect speaking fees, even as his wife campaigns.

“I gotta pay our bills,” he told NBC News.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-earn-more-than-25-million-in-speaking-fees-since-january-2014/2015/05/15/52605fbe-fb4d-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html?tid=a_inl

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
9. So what has the whining been about over the last week or so?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

Are they asking for Bernie's 2015 income tax return, which isn't even due yet? Are they expecting some explosive revelations? Hillary pockets more in an hour speaking to Goldman Sachs than Bernie and Jane earn in a year.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
17. The conservatives like to bash Bernie over that $700K net worth
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

They think anybody who has been in Congress for 25 years and isn't worth millions must have his priorities out of whack.

How about that whopping pension (less than $5000/year) for 8 years as the mayor of Burlington? I think we may have actually found somebody worthy of the label "career public servant".

onenote

(42,779 posts)
16. Because people rightfully want a candidate's entire return, not just the "first few pages.'
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

I don't care who the candidate is or what party they belong to or what the gross amount of income reported or the gross amount of deductions reported -- if you're going to run for president you should disclose your entire tax return, including the required schedules that actually provide information about the specific sources of income and amounts of different categories of deductions (none of which can be ascertained from the first two pages of a return).

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
20. Do you need their birth certificates?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

This is almost like going round and round with the birthers!

LOL

onenote

(42,779 posts)
28. It takes a special kind of person to equate birtherism with wanting full disclosure of a candidate's
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:40 PM
Apr 2016

tax returns.

When most people here were pounding the table for Romney's full returns, were you calling them birthers?

I'm a Sanders supporter. I'm also someone who thinks one of Clinton's major failings is her general lack of transparency. But I won't become a hypocrite just to overlook the inexplicable failure of Sanders to meet a standard of disclosure I believe any and every candidate should meet.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
30. So what credible journalist or media source has requested the specific information you want?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

And what was the response to those requests?

I've read Bernie's response to the Washington Post request and they did not indicate any criticism of his response.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
36. Probably the same credible journalists or media sources asking Clinton to "release the transcripts"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

Am I right?

onenote

(42,779 posts)
37. You don't think this article is critical?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/

This could have been avoided if Sanders had released the rest of his 2014 return, which probably is no more than another 2 or 3 pages.

I have no idea why he hasn't but that's the problem -- it allows speculation as to what isn't being disclosed. For example, the speculation in the linked article that Sanders doesn't give to charity, something that is his right, but possibly not a big selling point with large swaths of the electorate. Is that true? I have no idea because Sanders hasn't released the pages of his return that give that information.

Again, I won't be a hypocrite and pretend that my candidate's failure to provide the level of transparency I think all candidates should adhere to with regard to their tax returns is okay simply because it's my candidate.

onenote

(42,779 posts)
14. "First few pages" of the return. Not the entire return.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

If you file Form 1040 without the required schedules you have not filed a complete tax return and could be subject to fines and penalties.

I'm sure Bernie filed a complete return. I'm just not certain why he has been reluctant to make it public since the devil of someone's tax return is in the details.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
18. Does not the form show their total income and taxes paid? What else do you need?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

Guess you just can't satisfy people who think it's just wonderful that the Clintons have received tens of millions of dollars from their benefactors on Wall Street.

onenote

(42,779 posts)
26. First, I am Sanders' supporter who voted for him in the Virginia primary
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

which put me in a distinct minority in my own state.

Second, when Mitt Romney or anyone else reports their gross income, it isn't enough -- there are various schedules and additional forms that break down the various sources of income. That is important information whether it is $1000 or $10 million dollars. Sanders 1040 shows minimal dividend and interest income, but it also shows $4900 is "business income" for which Schedule C is required. Again, I don't care who the candidate is -- the Schedules that compute and support the information on the first two pages of the form -- schedules that must be filed as a matter of law -- should be disclosed. Similarly, Sanders claimed over $56,000 in itemized deductions. There are various categories of itemized deductions -- charitable contributions, state and local taxes, medical, mortgage interest etc. Schedule B breaks down the amounts by category and must accompany the Form 1040 -- it is something I would want to see from any and every candidate.

I'm pissed at Clinton for her lack of transparency in various respects. I argued loudly that Romney should release his entire returns. I'm not going to make a hypocrite of myself because my candidate, for reasons that I cannot fathom, won't disclose the required schedules that accompanied his tax return.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
29. You don't think Bernie and Jane are hiding millions in dirty money from us? I'm sure you don't.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

So relax. Don't worry.

If any scandals existed the highly paid Hillary campaign investigators and other sources friendly to her would have disclosed or leaked such information long ago.

They have nothing.

onenote

(42,779 posts)
32. You don't get it. I don't give a rat's ass about the amounts.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think some line should be drawn that says candidates with more than X income or Y deductions should disclose their entire returns but candidates with sufficient income or deductions to require filing additional schedules should be exempt from disclosing those schedules if the amount is below some arbitrarily chosen amount.

If the law requires that the schedules be completed and filed, they should be disclosed. Period. Indeed, the burden of disclosing a full return is likely to be much greater on someone with large amounts of income and deductions/exemptions/credits than someone with a minimal amount and only a few additional schedules. So why not disclose them?

Transparency for one. Transparency for all.

Is that concept really so hard for you to understand?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
42. What is hard for me to understand is
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

why Sanders is being held to a higher standard than Clinton.

He will release the full fucking tax returns. Do y'all mind if he wins WI and NY first?!

So as far as transparency goes, many here seem to have been children then or simply forgot this tidbit of Clinton Machine history --

HRC began her notorious trading in the commodities futures market at the same time as the Whitewater purchase, made her $100,000 courtesy of Tyson’s Foods executives, and looked to Whitewater as a tax shelter for her gains, assuredly ill-gotten. In their federal income tax returns for the years 1978, 1979, and 1980, the Clintons deducted not merely interest payments on their Whitewater mortgages but also principal–$20,000 was the illegal portion of the deduction–thus helping offset her gain on the commodities scam. This was the reason the Clintons refused to release their tax returns for 1978 and 1979 during the presidential campaign and beyond, until 1994.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/30/the-clinton-files-is-hillary-a-crook/

onenote

(42,779 posts)
44. Clinton has released her full returns, with all the schedules.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

So I can't and won't criticize her for that. And Bill Clinton released 12 years of returns in 1992, going back to 1980. While more is better, I'm not claiming that a candidate should release their returns going back forever and a day. But the last few years? Yes.

On the other hand, I will and do criticize H.Clinton for various other instances where she has not demonstrated transparency.

I am confused: do you think it was okay for Bill Clinton not to release (at least not until after the election) 13 and 14 year old returns? Do you think it would have been okay for him not to release ANY returns in 1992?

And what is so hard about releasing the couple of pages of his 2014 return? He released the partial return in June 2015?

I'm pretty sure Bernie is capable of winning NY and Wisconsin while having someone Xerox a couple of pages of the 2014 return that haven't been made public.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
45. The Clintons
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

had to do so after the fuck up in the 1990's and the financial mistrust since.

Sanders has been in the Senate for over a decade. Every year, his financial disclosures are made public. If there was ANYTHING out of the ordinary, we would know it by now.

This is a drummed up controversy. Until this past weekend, no one was discussing tax returns. Like his health records months back, it was a non-issue made into one because Team Clinton saw an opening.

Yes, as a candidate for president, he needs to release his returns. During the 2008 primary, Obama released only his 1040's as well. Criticism led to him sharing more. Sanders will share them all just like he did his health status. They will also reveal nothing out of the ordinary, but the rat-fucking will be done. Is that really Sanders in that photo from University of Chicago? (Just before the first heavily AA southern state!). Do you really think that was an accident? A legitimate investigation? No, it was rat-fuckery plain and simple.

So thanks for every time you try to legitimize this fucked up rat-fucking by giving it standing. Pay attention to Sanders lack of transparency while Clinton hides her transcripts, the FBI investigation continues, and the Panama Papers are now released.

Can't you tell that you are being manipulated?

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
22. If Hillary only released a couple of pages
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

"WITHOUT" all the schedules and forms showing where all her money came from, I am sure that the same people here who are defending Bernie on this would be scramming their heads off. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't think so!

glinda

(14,807 posts)
27. Just read they are redoing the last 5 years because of unclaimed
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

foreign donations to the Foundation. I think the source was legit.

rickford66

(5,530 posts)
21. "Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who rails against the “billionaire class” "
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

No. Just billionaires who want to buy politicians.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
31. I'm totally Bernie but itemizations should be there. Also, few charitable donations
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

I'm disappointed in a way but I still thinks he's way better than the alternatives. Nobody is perfect. I'm a teacher and my donations are 20x his. He grew up very poor and probably keeps his money just like my mom and dad. Me, I was spoiled and I give generously never having experienced poverty. So I understand.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
54. You're misreading his return. $150 is correct. $8053 VT taxes. Read carefully.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

Contributions are shown under itemizations. The Vermont form shows $150 donations and who they are to. Line 30 shows $150 donations and $8,053 VT taxes.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
55. From the linked Washington Post article; I didn't even look at the return after reading the summary
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

<On the disclosure form, which was filed May 29 with the Federal Election Commission, Sanders also noted having received $1,017.42 in 2014 from the publisher of a book that includes the text of a nearly nine-hour filibuster he conducted in 2010. The book is titled “The Speech: A Historic Filibuster on Corporate Greed and the Decline of Our Middle Class.” Sanders also reported receiving an $850 honorarium for having appeared on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher.”

The money from the book and the television appearance were both donated to charity, Briggs said. Sanders donated another $8,350 to charity last year, Briggs said.

On his Vermont tax return, Sanders made a total of $150 in voluntary contributions to support four causes: at-risk children; endangered wildlife; military veterans; and the environment.>

Actually, the charitable total was $1017 plus $850 plus $8350 plus $150, or over $10,000 in charitable contributions.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
57. I just saw it was linked in OP. Thanks.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

Also, $150 to Vermont charities isn't much. I stand by that. If this were Clinton - who I will never vote for - I doubt you'd accept book royalties and one Maher appearance as being really charitable. I don't.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
33. Bump for truth. Bump for "Where are Hillary's transcripts from the Wall Street speeches"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

massive payday?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
39. How perfectly normal. Hill folk should be eating crow
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:00 PM
Apr 2016

but they'll be quibbling and griping, for sure.

Tiresome.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
61. $200,000 vs. $25,000,000 - aren't you a little petty?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

I mean I want to see it all as well but I'm not confusing place value.

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