2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe have the first casualty of the Panama Papers
The prime minister of Iceland just resigned.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Everything I see has Sigmundur Davíð lining up a confidence vote.
amborin
(16,631 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)There are also a bunch of members of China's politburo and politicians from various other countries.
Information on U.S. people involved is on the way from what I read.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)reports, blogs, online discussions, etc.
Gee, first I wondered why.....now I SEE why they're blocking it.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)There may be many casualties of this scandal.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2015/09/29/the-mystery-of-hillarys-missing-millions/#5634fa675505
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)I hope he goes for the jugular over these Panama Papers.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I thought that that those Panama Papers were kind of hyped when I skimmed though it. Gonna read further. Thanks for this
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)I didn't look any further than that.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Here's an opinion piece from CNN on why it is a very big deal. The volume of it is enormous, much bigger than what Snowden leaked, and it is taking a cooperative effort by journalists to wade through it.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/04/opinions/panama-papers-ghitis/index.html
<This is an earthquake. The aftershocks will continue for months, even years to come. It could also be the beginning of the end of secrets.
Already, details pieced together by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists of about a dozen current and former world leaders alleged to have used the law firm's services have been revealed, with the documents listing presidents, kings, prime ministers and their offspring. Some of the world's most powerful figures and their relatives are being accused of hiding their wealth. And we're just getting started.
We are learning about potentially hundreds of thousands of offshore firms connected to people in more than 200 countries and territories -- essentially, the entire world. And even though hundreds of journalists in dozens of countries with the ICIJ have already spent months examining the documents, the Internet will make it possible for people to search for information that might affect them specifically. The blueprint to offshore and shell companies allegedly held by prominent figures is breathtaking in its detail and scope, and the repercussions will be profound and lasting.
We knew something significant was coming when, a few days ago, a spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin started trying to discredit a mysterious piece of journalism that had not yet made headlines. A Kremlin spokesman warned of an upcoming "media attack" on Putin. And if the claims in the Panama Papers are true, it is easy to see why the Russian President would be worried -- the papers reveal a trail of billions of dollars allegedly shuffled across shell companies and paper firms, ultimately connected to people close to him.>
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)with excellent access to international media, as I understand it.
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)just common knowledge? The only thing new in there I have heard reported so far is the specific details.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)no confidence. We could have rid ourselves of W at least.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)His message was clear: You can help your clients move their fortunes to the United States, free of taxes and hidden from their governments.
Some are calling it the new Switzerland.
After years of lambasting other countries for helping rich Americans hide their money offshore, the U.S. is emerging as a leading tax and secrecy haven for rich foreigners. By resisting new global disclosure standards, the U.S. is creating a hot new market, becoming the go-to place to stash foreign wealth. Everyone from London lawyers to Swiss trust companies is getting in on the act, helping the worlds rich move accounts from places like the Bahamas and the British Virgin Islands to Nevada, Wyoming, and South Dakota.
How ironicno, how perversethat the USA, which has been so sanctimonious in its condemnation of Swiss banks, has become the banking secrecy jurisdiction du jour, wrote Peter A. Cotorceanu, a lawyer at Anaford AG, a Zurich law firm, in a recent legal journal. That giant sucking sound you hear? It is the sound of money rushing to the USA.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)COMPANIES 3072
CLIENTS 441
BENEFICIARIES 211
SHAREHOLDERS 3467
Americans show up in the Panama Papers, too
Determining a precise number of Americans in the data is difficult. There are at least 200 scanned individual U.S. passports. Some appear to be American retirees purchasing real estate in places like Costa Rica and Panama. Also in the database, about 3,500 shareholders of offshore companies who list U.S. addresses. And almost 3,100 companies are tied to offshore professionals based in Miami, New York, and other parts of the United States.
Further complicating matters, some U.S. citizens enjoy dual citizenship and open accounts under foreign passports. Others appeared to be American retirees purchasing real estate in places like Costa Rica and Panama.
The thing is, they're starting with 11.5 million documents ... and that's going to mushroom. Company names lead to other shareholders which lead to others involved in evading taxes, etc.
Then when you start after these folks, many don't put all their eggs in one basket - a number had to be in on other tax evading schemes ... which a few will babble about to cut their losses or jail time.
I wonder how many will sell their interests and move to offshore locations before the IRS catch up with them - probably a bunch.