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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
1. Because New York State Government frequently has their heads up their asses
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:25 AM
Apr 2016

How can you tell a future convicted felon?

If they are a legislative leader in New York.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. But when Clinton says she's for a $12 floor wage with higher minimum wages in some places
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:27 AM
Apr 2016

DU makes it clear that's not acceptable. So why are people cheering a bill that does exactly that?

dogman

(6,073 posts)
4. Because she acts as if she did it.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016

How much should it be by the time it's enacted fully? This gives them time to kill it.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
5. You asked a question about why all the variances and conditions
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:34 AM
Apr 2016

$15 is good.

But in true New York fashion, they had to do it is a baroque way.

NY State has done some good things, but they are a model of cronyism, corruption and incompetence, in which leading politicians seem to get indicted as a matter or ritual. They well known for that.

 

DetroitSocialist83

(169 posts)
7. First of all
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:20 AM
Apr 2016

I am glad everyone is receiving a raise. Any increase is a victory for the working poor. My concern with NY giving different amounts in different areas is as follows: if all 50 states do this, wouldn't it be incredibly confusing to businesses and workers when seeking a job or determining hiring practice? Also, will this create yet another race to the bottom where companies locate specifically to areas with the lowest wages? Perhaps neither of these concerns will come about, but looking to the future those are just two of the things that I saw as potential trouble.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. The op is wrong on the facts.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

All of New York is going to 15, the complication is that various regions are doing so on different schedules. If Clinton were proposing phasing in 15 with schedules based on some COL factor, I could live with that. She isn't.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. This already happens in places where there's a scarcity of workers.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

Manufacturing can move elsewhere, but restaurants and fast food places can't. The customers aren't going to drive a thousand miles for that whopper. Also, there are lots of businesses that rely on proximity to military labs, or academic institutions, or front-line medical centers, to churn their engines. They're not going down to East Pimpleback. They need to be near the brains.

What's happening is that, for the most part, these wages are going up in the way that they would ANYWAY--there might be a little "goose" to push that along by the politicians, but people don't stick around where there's no work. They leave and go elsewhere.

Lots of states pay more than the federal minimum wage. A youngster in my family is getting twenty bucks an hour ON AN INTERNSHIP. His internship a few years back, when he was a no-skills guppy, was "only" $12.50.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. The entire state is going to 15, but in stages and on different schedules.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

The state budget includes a historic increase in the minimum wage, ultimately reaching $15 an hour for all workers in all industries across the state.

For workers in New York City employed by large businesses (those with at least 11 employees), the minimum wage would rise to $11 at the end of 2016, then another $2 each year after, reaching $15 on 12/31/2018.

For workers in New York City employed by small businesses (those with 10 employees or fewer), the minimum wage would rise to $10.50 by the end of 2016, then another $1.50 each year after, reaching $15 on 12/31/2019.

For workers in Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester Counties, the minimum wage would increase to $10 at the end of 2016, then $1 each year after, reaching $15 on 12/31/2021.

For workers in the rest of the state, the minimum wage would increase to $9.70 at the end of 2016, then another .70 each year after until reaching $12.50 on 12/31/2020 – after which will continue to increase to $15 on an indexed schedule to be set by the Director of the Division of Budget in consultation with the Department of Labor.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-15-minimum-wage-plan-and-12-week-paid-family-leave-policy-law

Your premise is wrong.
 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
9. Great new site out, called "Google.com" or something. Try it, maybe.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016

Or just continue to fart around DU pretending to care when you obviously don't.

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